http://news.yahoo.com/u-seek-death-penalty-accused-marathon-bomber-tsarnaev-192640895.html

 

 

What are your opinions?

That's an extremely misleading topic title. The United States is seeking a death sentence; Tsarnaev presumably is not looking to be put to death.

That punk deserves death. 

Really? The state he committed his crimes in decided long ago that *no* crimes deserve death (Massachusetts has no death penalty). Personally, I'm of the view that he committed a crime mostly against the people of Massachusetts, and should be subject to their penalty.

The people of  Massachusetts  have spoken through the media and poll's if you read the article most of Boston want's  life in prison 

 

 

death penalty is easy way out for him life in jail is always better and harder on the person

 

an which again the people of Massachusetts have spoken have done away with it and its disrepectful of the Fed government to want the dealthy penalty back on the book's for the state when the people of the state do not want it

First off, as mentioned by cp702 that title is totally misleading, it suggests he's looking to kill himself.

 

Second, I've said it before and I will say it again. Under certain circumstances I am for the death penalty. Being a firsthand witness to the events, and carnage of that day I can firmly say that I'd rather see the little f***er rot in jail than be put to death. YES I am aware that it will be awhile before he's put to death, YES I am aware some believe it's a "Tax" burden (in reality it'll cost more to put him to death, just saying).

 

That is all I will say on this, and about this.

 

 

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The people of  Massachusetts  have spoken through the media and poll's if you read the article most of Boston want's  life in prison 

 

 

death penalty is easy way out for him life in jail is always better and harder on the person

 

an which again the people of Massachusetts have spoken have done away with it and its disrepectful of the Fed government to want the dealthy penalty back on the book's for the state when the people of the state do not want it

I think he needs to pay for his crime with death. The thing about life in jail is that he gets to live.

the actual bombers

I think he needs to pay for his crime with death. The thing about life in jail is that he gets to live.

Did you even read what was said above? Massachusetts doesn't have the death penalty. Whatever sick wish you want for this guy, it won't come true.

 

If he gets to spend life in prison, so be it. 

Life in prison is worse you get to spend your life in a 6 by 6 jail cell with 1 window thinking of what coulda been and what you coulda had  not just him but  for any1  put in jail for life

Edited January 30, 201412 yr by K-9 police 9

The worst thing is people reaction. In truth, I see how human kind is uncivilized.

 

People too fast respond with unnecessary anger. As far as I can see, everyone wants to penalize. But I have to remember you that prisons were made as a temporary solution: the real target of a country is to rehabilitate his guilty citizens. And to deprive a human being of his freedom & dignity is surely not the right way (not to consider that prison itself is not a working rehabilitation method).

 

I must remind you that ethics & morality are not the same everywhere. In Europe death penalty is rightly considered as "state murder", it's an offense against human dignity.

 

That's how it works in Norway
http://content.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1989083,00.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik

-- On 22 July 2011, he bombed government buildings in Oslo, killing eight people. He then killed 69 more people, mostly teenagers, in a mass shooting at a Workers' Youth League (AUF) camp on the island of Utøya. --

 

Something to think about.

The worst thing is people reaction. In truth, I see how human kind is uncivilized.

 

People too fast respond with unnecessary anger. As far as I can see, everyone wants to penalize. But I have to remember you that prisons were made as a temporary solution: the real target of a country is to rehabilitate his guilty citizens. And to deprive a human being of his freedom & dignity is surely not the right way (not to consider that prison itself is not a working rehabilitation method).

 

I must remind you that ethics & morality are not the same everywhere. In Europe death penalty is rightly considered as "state murder", it's an offense against human dignity.

 

That's how it works in Norway

http://content.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1989083,00.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik

-- On 22 July 2011, he bombed government buildings in Oslo, killing eight people. He then killed 69 more people, mostly teenagers, in a mass shooting at a Workers' Youth League (AUF) camp on the island of Utøya. --

 

Something to think about.

 

1 thing 

 

you CAN NOT rehabilitate a terrorist

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if tried in a Federal Court (Which they probably will for such an offence), the death penalty is still an option even in Massachusetts, because it's not at the state level, where the death penalty was abolished in Massachusetts. 

 

In other words, with my understanding of the judicial system, he can be put to death even in a state where the death penalty is abolished.

 

Additionally, if the government wants him dead, they'll find a way. Especially with death penalty cases, there's a lot of politics played into it and a lot of innocent people have been put to death (Tsarnaev is most certainly guilty though). 

Did you even read what was said above? Massachusetts doesn't have the death penalty. Whatever sick wish you want for this guy, it won't come true.

 

If he gets to spend life in prison, so be it. 

Ahhhh don't worry the US gov will take him to a state that HAS death penalty. If the US gov wants death for him it WILL happen case closed 

You are correct, the federal government has the option of putting him to death. Even if a state doesn't have a death penalty, the federal government can apply its own penalties. However, I'm of the view that if a crime is essentially against the people of one area, the federal government should respect the democratically expressed views of the people of Massachusetts that a death sentence is not justified for any crime, no matter how heinous.

The US government is NOT allowed to try him outside Massachusetts unless Tsarnaev requests it. It's unconstitutional for a federal criminal trial to be held outside the state in which the crime occurred unless the *defendant* moves to shift the trial to another district or state (typically because the local population is biased against them; it might actually be a good idea for Tsarnaev to move to be tried outside Massachusetts, because he does *not* want to face a Boston jury). The US can legally impose a death sentence for federal crimes, even if the trial is in Massachusetts. I just think they shouldn't when the local area has abolished the death penalty, deciding democratically that no crime justifies a death sentence.

1 thing 

 

you CAN NOT rehabilitate a terrorist

 

ah, I see... there's a written law about it!

 

Let me take a note (damn U.S., you have an answer for everything!) So, let me write it: how to import/export civilization... murder. Is it correct?

 

Maybe you'd better call Denmark council and update 'em

 

 

ps

Just sarcasm, take it as it comes.

You are correct,  ...... *Cut for length reasons*

 

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

For your point of allowing Massachusites (Correct Plural Form) law to apply, because it's our state, I don't think Massachusites would have problems seeing him put to death. :)

Who gives a damn about what happens to them? It won't make it better for anyone who died that day. Just my opinion. Feel free to bash it. 

let him rot in prison for the rest of his life hopefully he will find a man that will make him happy (lol)

At this point, because of the specific crime, he is being trailed at federal level(murder, is technically a state offense, however, this is considered treason)- and therefore, doesn't really matter what anyone at the state level thinks.

 

Treason: "The betrayal of one's own country by waging war against it or by consciously or purposely acting to aid its enemies."

 

Treason is relatively straight and clear, it ends in Death Penalty.

 

Edit: My personal opinion extends to: Kill him, or find some country, that doesn't treat prisoners well, to take him(although there is no valid reason to extradite him...)

Edited January 31, 201412 yr by Monarchco