hey everyone doesnt it annoy you when people give the police a hard time for no reason? it really annoys me because those brave men and women protect them everyday and all they do is make fun the the police and annoy them. does that bother you?

Yes, it bother me very much.

same here. I have had people do this to me when I'm helping police make an arrest. drives me nuts

I find it very annoying when police annoy me for little reason. And about people recording cops, if the cops have nothing to hide, they shouldn't worry, especially since they are government employees.

I find it very annoying when police annoy me for little reason. And about people recording cops, if the cops have nothing to hide, they shouldn't worry, especially since they are government employees.

This. Film all you want, but do not obstruct the officer. 

I find it very annoying when police annoy me for little reason. And about people recording cops, if the cops have nothing to hide, they shouldn't worry, especially since they are government employees.

maybe they dont want their face all over youtube

maybe they dont want their face all over youtube

And maybe I don't want my name in a police report if they interact with me, which would go on my record. Maybe I don't want to be given a ticket for committing the "crime" that could only harm me and no one else if I drove without a seatbelt. Maybe I don't believe it's necessary to ride in an APC and don SWAT gear for someone growing some marijuana for him or herself in one's basement. It doesn't matter what I believe, because it's the ever so cited law/policy.

 

What does that have to do with their faces on youtube? The fact remains that the first amendment is there to document and speak out against any and all forms of government, even if the opinions are wrong or if it goes against the oh so powerful government. And it's mainly the bad cops that get on youtube. For the most part, cops are either on it for being an outstanding cop or they're on it for being a pig (strong difference between pig and an honorable cop). If they don't want their face all over youtube, they shouldn't of taken a government job that means lots of public exposure.

And maybe I don't want my name in a police report if they interact with me, which would go on my record. Maybe I don't want to be given a ticket for committing the "crime" that could only harm me and no one else if I drove without a seatbelt. Maybe I don't believe it's necessary to ride in an APC and don SWAT gear for someone growing some marijuana for him or herself in one's basement. It doesn't matter what I believe, because it's the ever so cited law/policy.

 

What does that have to do with their faces on youtube? The fact remains that the first amendment is there to document and speak out against any and all forms of government, even if the opinions are wrong or if it goes against the oh so powerful government. And it's mainly the bad cops that get on youtube. Cops are either on it for being an outstanding cop or they're on it for being a pig (strong difference between pig and an honorable cop). If they don't want their face all over youtube, they shouldn't of taken a government job that means lots of public exposure.

What is the big deal about having your name in a police report its just a report get over it man you got the first amendment rights correct but they risk there lives for you and all they ask for is a little cooperation but instead you treat them like junk HOW ABOUT WE GET RID OF THE WHOLE POLICE FORCE IN AMERICA so you dont have  your name in a police report

Edited October 6, 201312 yr by gamerdanger99

What is the big deal about having your name in a police report its just a report get over it man you the first amendment rights correct but they risk there lives for you and all they ask for is a little cooperation but instead you treat them like junk HOW ABOUT WE GET RID OF THE WHOLE POLICE FORCE IN AMERICA so you dont have  your name in a police report

Because it shows up in a record check, which potentially paints me as a bad guy.

 

Police don't risk their lives for me. They just try to get their job done and keep their job. Several examples of this are within the NYPD, with this story and this one. Under Warren v. District of Columbia, the Supreme Court ruled the police have no duty to protect you, or me, or anyone else within America. While I believe there are cops who do try to help others, people in general will not help unless there is incentive for them. For police in general, it's the chance of action or to keep their job.

 

And notice how I never went to the extreme of saying abolish all police departments, only implying that policing authority is being abused. That's called argumentum ad absurdum, taking an argument to the utmost extreme in an attempt to belittle an opponent's view.

 

I am the primary one responsible for my own safety, and should I request help, it is almost always at least 5 minutes away. When help is truly needed, those 5 minutes are like having no police force.

Because it shows up in a record check, which potentially paints me as a bad guy.

 

Police don't risk their lives for me. They just try to get their job done and keep their job. Several examples of this are within the NYPD, with this story and this one. Under Warren v. District of Columbia, the Supreme Court ruled the police have no duty to protect you, or me, or anyone else within America. While I believe there are cops who do try to help others, people in general will not help unless there is incentive for them. For police in general, it's the chance of action or to keep their job.

 

And notice how I never went to the extreme of saying abolish all police departments, only implying that policing authority is being abused. That's called argumentum ad absurdum, taking an argument to the utmost extreme in an attempt to belittle an opponent's view.

 

I am the primary one responsible for my own safety, and should I request help, it is almost always at least 5 minutes away. When help is truly needed, those 5 minutes are like having no police force.

 

unless the police report says something bad about you. You dont have to worry and it said in the first story that they thought he had a gun a mistake not a act of not caring you need to reread that story if they saw the knife they would have ran after the guy but they thought he had a gun so they took cover in the car very simple even a 5 year old would know that bud now take your police hating somewhere else for me before you make a complete fool out of yourself in front of all the people reading this post also with the 2nd one the cop was heavly outnumbered he would have gotten beaten as well and if he had a gun it would be very bad so he stayed undercover it was impossible to save that guy in the suv all by himself bud 

Edited October 6, 201312 yr by gamerdanger99

unless the police report says something bad about you. You dont have to worry and it said in the first story that they thought he had a gun a mistake not a act of not caring you need to reread that story if they saw the knife they would have ran after the guy but they thought he had a gun so they took cover in the car very simple even a 5 year old would know that bud now take your police hating somewhere else for me before you make a complete fool out of yourself in front of all the people reading this post also with the 2nd one the cop was heavly outnumbered he would have gotten beaten as well and if he had a gun it would be very bad so he stayed undercover it was impossible to save that guy in the suv all by himself bud 

But having a name associated with a police report means you look worse.

 

In the second story, the NYPD has a 4.5 minute response time. However, being that there were undercover officers in the area (they rarely work alone), response time could be drastically reduced, including uniform patrol. Based on the length of the chase, it should have been obvious something bad was about to happen, and there was more than enough time to get backup there. Someone was in danger, and the NYPD didn't act, despite having the capability, forewarning and resources to.

 

It's not police hating, it's reason. Too often on this site I see a fairy tale image of "all cops are gifts from God himself," and I get sick of it. They're people. Some are good, some are bad, some are just pawns, but an incredible few are perfect.

 

Also, if you don't want differing opinions than you, you shouldn't create controversial topics with one sided views.

But having a name associated with a police report means you look worse.

 

In the second story, the NYPD has a 4.5 minute response time. However, being that there were undercover officers in the area (they rarely work alone), response time could be drastically reduced, including uniform patrol. Based on the length of the chase, it should have been obvious something bad was about to happen, and there was more than enough time to get backup there. Someone was in danger, and the NYPD didn't act, despite having the capability, forewarning and resources to.

 

It's not police hating, it's reason. Too often on this site I see a fairy tale image of "all cops are gifts from God himself," and I get sick of it. They're people. Some are good, some are bad, some are just pawns, but an incredible few are perfect.

 

Also, if you don't want differing opinions than you, you shouldn't create controversial topics with one sided views.

 

you must not know anything about NY it has bad traffic problems so response times are not the best also the cop was uncover so if im correct they only have wires no radios bud you must not know much also i created this post to see what people think about people bothering cops but you turned it to a whole new level bud also i already said this if its a good police report your fine if its bad you better start worrying you dont listen very well do you?

Edited October 6, 201312 yr by gamerdanger99

you must not know anything about NY it has bad traffic problems so response times are not the best also the cop was uncover so if im correct they only have wires no radios bud you must not know much also i created this post to see what people think about people bothering cops but you turned it to a whole new level bud

Yes, I do know about traffic in New York. I also know that whenever cops have wires, they try to have people monitoring it. I also know that you can call people through motorcycle helmets, which an agency with a budget like the NYPD would most likely have. Finally, I know that during that time of day, there would be at least 8,000 officers on the streets based on the NYPD's 34,000 strong force.

 

I pointed out that it's hypocritical because cops bother people for little to no legitimate reason. Sorry I'm committing the crime of injecting reason on the internet.

Yes, I do know about traffic in New York. I also know that whenever cops have wires, they try to have people monitoring it. I also know that you can call people through motorcycle helmets, which an agency with a budget like the NYPD would most likely have. Finally, I know that during that time of day, there would be at least 8,000 officers on the streets based on the NYPD's 34,000 strong force.

 

I pointed out that it's hypocritical because cops bother people for little to no legitimate reason. Sorry I'm committing the crime of injecting reason on the internet.

 

where in any of my posts did i say you are commiting a crime. with the traffic in NY people dont have alot of room to pull over for the police responding think about that for me  i also checked out your profile you really are a anti US government person why dont you move to the UK or canada of even better become a terrorist if you hate the US government bud 

Edited October 6, 201312 yr by gamerdanger99

where in any of my posts did i say you are commiting a crime. with the traffic in NY people dont have alot of room to pull over for the police responding think about that for me  i also checked out your profile you really are a anti US government person why dont you move to the UK or canada of even better become a terrorist if you hate the US government bud 

"Crime" was used to make a point that making logical sense on the internet and having a reasonable opinion is not liked.

 

Again, the NYPD has an average 4.5 minute response time when responding to emergency calls, which there was ample time for. There would be other cops in the area for the UC's safety. There was backup available.

 

Finally, the fact you are having to completely divert off topic and discuss my own thoughts on things unrelated to this show your lack of an argument. Painting me as a "terrorist" is what is referred to as argumentum ad hominem, or basically, you can't think of anything so you start making accusations towards me. First of all, my profile clearly blew past your head. I made a comment about how the government is full of idiots. That should be obvious with politics today.

 

Next, Libertarianism is having the political ideology that people have the right to do what they want until they harm non-consenting others with that right, and simply being born gives them those rights. It is not anarchistic. It is not terrorism. It is freedom to its very core.

 

And lastly, I know I am a terrorist. However, I know you are a terrorist too. To the government, everyone is a terrorist. The state of Missouri has what is called the "Modern Militia Movement" paper. If you don't strictly follow Democrat or Republican ideology, you're a terrorist according to it. The DHS has guidelines that are distributed to various businesses also. Try to use cash in a coffee shop? Terrorist. Try to hide your password in an internet cafe? Terrorist. Take a family photo in a major tourist attraction? Terrorist. So under that logic, is everyone a terrorist according to you?

"Crime" was used to make a point that making logical sense on the internet and having a reasonable opinion is not liked.

 

Again, the NYPD has an average 4.5 minute response time when responding to emergency calls, which there was ample time for. There would be other cops in the area for the UC's safety. There was backup available.

 

Finally, the fact you are having to completely divert off topic and discuss my own thoughts on things unrelated to this show your lack of an argument. Painting me as a "terrorist" is what is referred to as argumentum ad hominem, or basically, you can't think of anything so you start making accusations towards me. First of all, my profile clearly blew past your head. I made a comment about how the government is full of idiots. That should be obvious with politics today.

 

Next, Libertarianism is having the political ideology that people have the right to do what they want until they harm non-consenting others with that right, and simply being born gives them those rights. It is not anarchistic. It is not terrorism. It is freedom to its very core.

 

And lastly, I know I am a terrorist. However, I know you are a terrorist too. To the government, everyone is a terrorist. The state of Missouri has what is called the "Modern Militia Movement" paper. If you don't strictly follow Democrat or Republican ideology, you're a terrorist according to it. The DHS has guidelines that are distributed to various businesses also. Try to use cash in a coffee shop? Terrorist. Try to hide your password in an internet cafe? Terrorist. Take a family photo in a major tourist attraction? Terrorist. So under that logic, is everyone a terrorist according to you?

the only people i see as a terrorist is people who hate the US government and Muslims also if you hate the gov why haven't  you moved yet moron and if i was a terrorist i would ether hate the government which i dont and blow up bombs and kill americans which i have not done so im not a terrorist also this conversation has went way out of hand so im done talking to you bud have a nice night 

the only people i see as a terrorist is people who hate the US government and Muslims also if you hate the gov why haven't  you moved yet moron and if i was a terrorist i would ether hate the government which i dont and blow up bombs and kill americans which i have not done so im not a terrorist also this conversation has went way out of hand so im done talking to you bud have a nice night 

You must not understand me. I hate every fucking government. Not because it is government, but because it has too much control over people and corporations have too much control over government. Moving won't help, unless I move deep into the woods and forgo all electrical devices.

 

It doesn't matter what your definition of a terrorist is, what matters in regards to whether you get shot or illegally disappeared under the treasonous NDAA of 2012 is what the government defines as a terrorist. But let's go by your definition of a terrorist. I have not blown up bombs, unless fireworks on the 4th of July count as such (probably does), and I have not killed people. Also, I am an Atheist, so I do not fall in the category of any religious nutcases (not calling all Muslims that, just jihadists).

 

Maybe one day, you will realize just how ridiculous it is to lick the boots of the people that steal from you at gun point, label you a terrorist and plot to kill you. Until then, good night.

You must not understand me. I hate every fucking government. Not because it is government, but because it has too much control over people and corporations have too much control over government. Moving won't help, unless I move deep into the woods and forgo all electrical devices.

 

It doesn't matter what your definition of a terrorist is, what matters in regards to whether you get shot or illegally disappeared under the treasonous NDAA of 2012 is what the government defines as a terrorist. But let's go by your definition of a terrorist. I have not blown up bombs, unless fireworks on the 4th of July count as such (probably does), and I have not killed people. Also, I am an Atheist, so I do not fall in the category of any religious nutcases (not calling all Muslims that, just jihadists).

 

Maybe one day, you will realize just how ridiculous it is to lick the boots of the people that steal from you at gun point, label you a terrorist and plot to kill you. Until then, good night.

good night also i have a perfect idea for you to get away from the gov how about you take everything you need and move to mars of the moon lol :D 

good night also i have a perfect idea for you to get away from the gov how about you take everything you need and move to mars of the moon lol :D 

I think you fail to see the logic in all the arguments c13 provided. Why would we have to move away? I know it was meant as a joke, but this is no joking matter.