May 9, 201312 yr Hi, I'm new here but will be as precise as I can. I'm using GTAIV with icEnhancer 2.1 with ENB 0.082b I'm using a few models created by Eric James (BritishPoliceMods), they are all ELS v6 compatible AFAIK (Sprinter Ambulance, Sprinter police van, Subaru Impreza unmarked, BMW X5 marked, Audi S4 marked, VW Golf mk5 marked etc) When I start the game WITHOUT ELSv7, everything is perfect and works as normal. So to install ELSv7 I completed the following, Copied: ELS.isi ELS.asi ELS folder Scripthook.dll dsound.dll common folder Into the root of my IV folder. Then when I start up IV, I get past the social club screen [select play offline] and allow the game to load up. I then press the 'Start' button at the in-game loading menu and the game starts to load up. The screen goes black (normal) and in the bottom right you have 'Loading...'the cousins bellic' (name of save-game...normal)... And then it shuts down. "GTAIV.exe has stopped working, Windows is searching for a problem". I've tried 3 times and it still does it. I've replaced the files with the original backups and the game now plays perfectly. So, ELSv7 IS BREAKING MY GAME. How do I fix this? Any ideas? UPDATE I've done some more research and I have found this possible lead: I have dsound.dll AND xlive_d.dll AND xlive.dll Now, I don't know which to uninstall. If I uninstall the xlive files, my icEnhancer will stop working I believe. UPDATE 2 I've tried deleting xlive_d.dll and xlive.dll together, this re-enabled Rockstar Social club so I could not launch the game. UPDATE 3 I've tried keeping xlive.dll and removing xlive_d.dll - this bypassed the social club however, once again, crashed upon loading. UPDATE 4 I've tried keeping xlive_d.dll and removing xlive.dll - this DID NOT bypass the social club however I logged in, and the game still crashed. There MUST be a way to fix this. How do you guys run the game without xlive & scripthook? UPDATE 5 I went back and re-tried removing both xlive_d.dll and xlive.dll, and tried to log in to Rockstar social club. This worked however the game STILL CRASHES. I'm seriously lost right now. I've exhausted all options to my knowledge and just really need some help. Thanks. FINAL UPDATE It appears that the problem was conflicting ASI loaders. I uninstalled GTAIV, all mods...EVERYTHING. This may not have been necessary but I chose to do it, a clean slate. I then completed the following: - Redownloaded GTAIV from Steam - Created a new folder in C:Program Files called "Rockstar Games" - Copied the 'Grand Theft Auto IV' folder from steamapps to the new Rockstar Games folder - Installed trainer & dsound.dll & SparkIV - Tested = Working - Installed ONE car mod (ELS compatible) - Tested with no ELS - No crash - Installed ELS v7 - Tested ELS v7 on ONE ELS compatible car and it works. (Remember to disable keys in trainer). So the solution I found: Completely remove IV and start fresh. Edited May 10, 201312 yr by Lilday