The Peelian Way : PolicingRedefined Update

Good set of questions, love to see traffic stop questions and actions.

That a very good STP XML hmm

Edited August 12, 20241 yr by Mathox

traffic stop questions would take this mod to the next level 

As a suggestion, you should add a brief explanation on your new additions. Like the Desistance, Provisions, and your Dialogue checks. It will help intorduce the newly added options

Any chance you're adding traffic stop questions? Love your normal questions and traffic stop questions would definitely complete this

This is a really good modification and I'm looking forward to future updates.

Is anyone able to elaborate a bit on how exactly this works? I've been trying it for a few days now, and it adds a lot of questions that I wish I could ask to the game, though it's easy to get lost in all the menus, and lines that read things like:

"Failed State Check: (Reason)"

"Please... | Debuff Modifier"

" x    Deameanor | Perception Modifier"

Are difficult to understand how they're supposed to function, and the mod page doesn't provide any insight. 

On 8/2/2023 at 4:52 AM, Honnes G. said:

Is anyone able to elaborate a bit on how exactly this works? I've been trying it for a few days now, and it adds a lot of questions that I wish I could ask to the game, though it's easy to get lost in all the menus, and lines that read things like:

"Failed State Check: (Reason)"

"Please... | Debuff Modifier"

" x    Deameanor | Perception Modifier"

Are difficult to understand how they're supposed to function, and the mod page doesn't provide any insight. 

 

Hey,

Apologies for the confusion, I should really explain things. The various systems are designed to feed into each other.

—‘Fail-state checks’ are intended to incentivize positive interactions—‘following the book’ as it were—by meeting specific expectations (e.g. informing body-cam is on as soon as possible). Failure to do so before selecting certain dialogue options, particularly orders/instructions, may result in belligerence. 

—.’(P)lease (General-use/DEBUFF)’ couches language (notice some dialogue options feature brackets— “Please leave the area/premises” instead of “I require you to leave the area/premises immediately ”), acting as a potential workaround for subjects who don’t respect your authority.  

— ‘Demeanour/Public Perception Modifier’ reflects ‘SUBJECT STATE’ category information regarding a subject’s outward-showing behaviour/perception of the LSPD. Any negativity (more or less open to interpretation, but generally anything yellow/red) in these two respects, require the Player to select said modifier before proceeding, if possible, with certain dialogue options (highlighted in yellow or marked with purple dashes). 

Hope this helped. Feel free to DM, should you have further questions.

All the best.

Edited August 20, 20232 yr by Wolfx101

@Wolfx101 What compulite file you would recommend me to use for you xml files ?

@Mathox Certainly 

Realistic Usable Charges & Citations for *CompuLite* 1.5.0

I was going to formally recommend this on my page… 

I don't understand the Demeanour/Public Perception questions, is it possible to explain it to me please ? I did not see up here sorry🔼

Edited March 5, 20242 yr by Mathox

@Wolfx101negatively is misspelled (also it is in one of the screenshots)

@Michael21107 Thank you for informing me. 
 

UPDATE

’General Update 4’ will rectify numerous typos

Edited October 25, 20232 yr by Wolfx101

why dont u change the pedanswers.xml?

Thanks for this

Edited October 29, 20232 yr by IcyEvelyn

it just little confusing for me I read the comment you replied too about how it feeds into each other I just wish if there was any youtube video showcasing the mod with a more  simple explaintion. Nontheless, amazing work bro keep it up

would it be possible to add a section for undercover operations

Edited March 11, 20242 yr by Bumble Bee

9 hours ago, Bumble Bee said:

would it be possible to add a section for undercover operations

Hello there

Thank you for your interest and suggestion.

Alas; I unfortunately lack any real

experience to tap into, nor am I terribly familiar with this particular field in the general sense. 

Frontline/community policing is very much the theme I’m going with.

That being said, I like to keep an open mind about things and strive to broaden my horizons so it might be something to consider for the future. 

Kind regards

4 hours ago, Wolfx101 said:

Hello there

 

Thank you for your interest and suggestion.

 

Alas; I unfortunately lack any real

experience to tap into, nor am I terribly familiar with this particular field in the general sense. 

 

Frontline/community policing is very much the theme I’m going with.

 

That being said, I like to keep an open mind about things and strive to broaden my horizons so it might be something to consider for the future. 

 

Kind regards

glad you'll at least consider it! and thanks for getting back to me

8 hours ago, Bumble Bee said:

glad you'll at least consider it! and thanks for getting back to me

adding onto this, if you do decide to branch out, may i suggest something like the PIA

Great mod. Very in-depth.

Edited April 16, 20242 yr by LAPD67

I think you should really remove the things of "Threat of sucide", "Pull out a gun" and deamenor thing Etc... I find it very unrealistic and confusing in my opinion.

I'm trying to get into this mod, but honestly it's so confusing I have zero clue what I'm doing. A quick example is trying to tell them the reason I pulled them over (speeding). So it then says "Use Moving Violation Menu". So I do, then I go back and it just repeats that.... What!? "My colleague will speak with you" only ever returns a "..." response. Actually, 80% of the things I choose simply return a "..." response or tell me there's some sort of issue. I honestly feel like I need a Video Tutorial on what step to ask things, because I'm apparently doing it all out of order I guess lol. None of this makes any sense to me so I had to uninstall for now. But I'm hopeful for the future of this!

Edited August 12, 20241 yr by VRDog

On 8/12/2024 at 10:13 PM, VRDog said:

I'm trying to get into this mod, but honestly it's so confusing I have zero clue what I'm doing. A quick example is trying to tell them the reason I pulled them over (speeding). So it then says "Use Moving Violation Menu". So I do, then I go back and it just repeats that.... What!? "My colleague will speak with you" only ever returns a "..." response. Actually, 80% of the things I choose simply return a "..." response or tell me there's some sort of issue. I honestly feel like I need a Video Tutorial on what step to ask things, because I'm apparently doing it all out of order I guess lol. None of this makes any sense to me so I had to uninstall for now. But I'm hopeful for the future of this!

Hey,

Thank you for your comment. I appreciate your affinity for the project and effort made trying it out despite it’s many complexities.

The “…” responses is actually the Player character speaking — orange representing the Player and certain menu items coloured as such being direct speech. Particular emphasis on the inconsequential goes a long way in enriching the overall experience and grounds you in the world as the Player character. Some of these can be chalked up to time-constraints, naturally, but I find it’s not always entirely necessary to have responses and their inclusion does create a sense of agency for the Player as well as work to facilitate a means to convey things beyond what’s presented. 

Imagination is key (I’m trying to capture that sense of play—  almost like a child in a sandbox). Think of it as a tabletop sim, which was the design philosophy. 

Yeah, advisory stuff is legacy infrastructure from ‘Ultimate Questions for STP’ which don’t necessarily reflect my own sensibilities or really interface with my body of work. You can largely ignore all that. 

Feel free to experiment with your approach and establish a flow to things for yourself; it’s very much a learning process with a lot of trial-and-error for training Officers. 

All the best and hope to have you back soon. 

Edited August 14, 20241 yr by Wolfx101

for the agitation fix there is no AgitedTrigger.meta in OpenIV do I still have to add it and it will work!?