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Am I supposed to care about what you are saying? Different opinions, learn to respect them in the future.

Something smells fishy... Wait, what's going on in the safety vault? Sam, you behaving yourself... (not sure if this is a Scottish joke or not)

Do not worry about it, I still absolutely love it haha! It seems the more I play it, the more stable it gets haha!

I like your last sentence there haha! This is just something that I struggle to grasp and find it extremely wrong. This is why I stick by my theory that less lethal methods could have been executed first. I have just noticed at the end that once the male is on the ground, the officers do not even care, they are making no attempt to keep him alive or even to resuscitate which is very grim.

My issue is the line of thought you lot have about guns being normal, it is something I would never understand. Freedom isn't defined as having the right to own a firearm. I do accept responsibility for my own safety, I am sensible enough to go to rough areas and know to get myself out of a bad situation as quickly as possible. I have profound trust in the Scottish emergency services, who always act with extreme professionalism in their jobs and have the utmost respect for them and I have enough common sense to know what will bring harm to me and others and I avoid the situations. In my opinion, the American right to bear arms is the most stupid thing ever created. One question for you, very seriously, are you the sort of person that, if stopped by the police on the street for carrying a gun, will disrupt their workings as they are enquiring about your gun? EDIT: Sorry c13, didn't see what you said as I was writing my reply. Back on topic, I don't think that I could be convinced of this being justified.

I would definitely go for the one in the last link. I do like an American SUV

It sure does haha! A few of yous are saying that he just started walking round to the other side. He was juts in a high speed collision, he would be in shock at this time, not knowing what he done. Let me ask, have any of you been in a collision? I can tell you, it isn't nice and you definitely don't shoot out of a car walking knowing what you are doing.

But then if teachers start carrying guns then children will think it is normal to have a gun and will not solve anything. The fact that you can but a gun called 'My First Gun' or something along those lines is horrible. Why not make America a gun free zone? What is so hard to grasp about that idea? Having guns around small children as you are suggesting will have severe ramifications by allowing children to believe that it is perfectly normal to use a firearm. That wont solve a thing. If you want to plan ahead then why not just take out life insurance, invest in self defence classes, or just stop thinking you have the right to take the law into your own hands. I do not keep any of those in my house apart from prescribed medication form a doctor. It like a child throwing stones at someone, you take away the stones and they stop don't they? Take away guns from the public and leave them with firearm officers. Also the fact about saying someone deserved to die is disgusting. It is a vile attitude to have. Absolutely putrid.

That is something I just don't get. Why would you want to carry a gun? Are you that paranoid? It just confuses me, obviously I could never understand why you would want to because I don't know what crazy shit happens over there. I am not suggesting the complete disarmament of the police force, it just baffles me that every time that there is a school shooting or something of the sort nothing is put in place to stop these such as tighter gun laws. But could a simple arrest not suffice for these officers rather than possibly killing him? You say he posed a danger, as has already been said many times, he was out his car. The damage was already done and I just don't see that shooting him was the right choice.

I have downloaded a public open beta v7 of the RCMP pack that they actually use, i'll find a link for you. Here's the link http://www.4shared.com/rar/OWLl37pi/RCMP_Pack_70_Open_Beta.htm

I look for the file for the windows on the car that I want to tint using SparkIV then export them to my desktop and edit using Paint.NET, make them the desired colour then import them to the vehicle file where I found them.

You mean you haven't tried it yet?!

I have a new found respect for you now. Simply because we now understand each other's views. I apologise for losing my head, so to speak, on previous pages.

I just do not agree with the fact that regular police officers are allowed to carry guns. I am from Scotland and I was raised in a country where guns are a BIG NO. So while I cannot morally justify this in the slightest I do understand that it was a split second judgement, in my opinion, the wrong one. I heard something recently that the London Metropolitan Police Service shoot, on average, 2 live bullets a year (out-with the training grounds) so you can probably see why I do not agree with this as Britain has a low gun crime figure, compared to other countries. I do understand that America is facing a huge gun problem and evasive actions must be taken but I believe that if the Police cannot show, I am hesitant in using this word, maturity, then America will continue to face the gun problem. To have the authority to carry a gun in the British Police, you must have been in the Police Service for at least 4 years I believe and had an exemplary record. You are put through psychological tests and you are put through a vigorous 10 week training program which tests your every ability with a gun. Many officers who start the course eventually leave the training program as the simply cannot handle holding a firearm and possibly having to take a life. When a firearm officer in Britain fires his gun, he/she will have to justify every little detail of that shot. Example: Say you are a firearm officer and you have been called in to help clear a plane that was taken over by terrorists and all passengers have been taken out of the area. You are slowly advancing up the aisle when you are confronted by and armed terrorist who starts firing at you with a pistol. He misses you with every shot and he starts to run away, you fire two shots at him. One hits him and the other hits a storage cupboard going through the thin wall. Now you have justify the shot which hit the terrorist. In court, they may see that he was running away and a shot should not be fired as he is not a threat to you, a taser shot would have sufficed. Now the shot that went through the cupboard may have hit someone who decided to take up an early hiding position and you may have just killed an unarmed civilian. Every little detail would be criticised in court very harshly. So can you see why I may not agree with this now?

Dayton17, This is a genuine question, as it SEEMS that you are a Police Officer, are the police allowed to shoot unarmed civilians who no longer pose a threat? Is that in their job description? I stress that this is a very serious question and asked in a calm manner. I do not wish to rekindle our argument.

It seems that with the new update there has been an increased crash rate, especially with shoot outs in my case. Is this just a problem for me or is it common?

If you seriously are only allowed to shoot to kill, that makes this situation worse! The fact this officer shot to kill this injured, unarmed person, wow! Would just like to draw your attention to this when you questioned my future career...

Hopefully a police report is published soon so we can see what actually happened. It will be heavily biased but that is an unavoidable truth

In my opinion, this isn't justified, he no longer poses a threat as the knife has been dropped, shooting him will solve nothing. c13, do you think it would be justified in this case?

There is no -deleted- need to go an belittle me because I have a different view on the matter. It is -deleted- out of order. That is another point, you moan and complain about school shootings and other events of the same principle but you do not do anything about it, that is delusional. Fine I don't even give a -deleted- now. Just get to -deleted- and go and continue to defend killers. A good guy with a gun is just as bad as a bad guy with a gun.

Yeah he crashed his car and left it, hence giving it up. Officers clearly could have gotten closer and attempted all non-life-threatening strategies then if they failed take the shot. I just cannot fathom the fact that people are arguing that it was justified. America really need to tighten their gun laws.

I have a close relation to Police Scotland with many family members in the police of whom I have consulted with and in Britain, the officer who shot him, if he died, would be facing a prison sentence for murder. I am not arguing that the shooting wasn't safe, I am arguing the fact that the shot was unjustifiable. It just really shows the difference between a sensible country and a trigger heavy country.

But he gave his car up and was walking about after an RTC! In my eyes, he no longer posed a threat and a taser would have been sufficient.

I'm -deleted- delusional am I? That's a new one! He left his vehicle and was staggering about after a high speed RTC! I am Scottish and over here we do things very differently. If he got out that vehicle after committing the same offence then it would only be Traffic Officers and possible beat constables to control the area, no way would there be Armed Response to shoot this man in the back! I am a police officer at a clan you moron and I hope to become a police officer in Scotland, a sensible police force may I add who don't shoot unarmed people in the back. America's gun laws are -deleted- up seriously.

This script would become even better with that. Something which I thought couldn't happen haha!