Pavelow

Yes, now I get what you're saying. I still don't consider it torture or abuse though. I'm just against forcing people to go get help for something they don't want. But I don't think people really understand what this topic is about. On the petition it clearly states to ban the therapy. So I belive people on here have no idea what they actually signed.

Well he never changed it legally so it's a guy. Again, how can you say it's torture when NUMEROUS PEOPLE GO ON THEIR OWN FREE WILL? Nobody seems to be grasping that. While we're banning this, let's ban child psychiatrists since parents force their children to undergo treatment for psych issues but they end up killing themself. Why would you ban something because one person killed them self because of it? How is it torture when numerous people want to use that therapy? Tell all the people, that experienced success using that treatment, that it's torture.

First thing's first. It's a "He". The law recognizes you as what you biologically are. Doesn't matter what he thinks he is. Justifying what? How can you say it's abuse, when numerous people decide to go on their own free will because they want change? And yes, suicide is a coward's choice. Doesn't matter for what reason. There are numerous outlets to go to to get help. If you decide to kill yourself, I really have no pity for you. You could have gotten help, except you took the easy way out. Just because one 17 year old boy decides to kill himself instead of seek help, DOES NOT JUSTIFY condemning a perfectly legitimate business, that many people decide to attend because they want to change.

How do you know his hands were empty though. I can't tell for crap in that video, let alone at night. All I can see is his hands up. He comes at a cop, regardless of where his hands are, disobeying the cop's orders, and then he gets shot. Now, I'm just being hypothetical and have no idea what happened or what was the outcome. Could the cop have used a bit more discretion? Maybe. But the shooting was completely justified.

Do you know for a fact he doesn't have another weapon on him? Would you be willing to bet your life on him not having a knife or another gone on his person? After he already had a gun in the car, I wouldn't. -------------- On the other hand, I think it's badass that cops are using CAR.

I'd say we've made progress, but we're nowhere near overcoming racism. We're far from it. Especially in the south. Publicly, there's progress made, but a ton of people in SC, GA, and AL (That I know for certain) are still racist. Not to blacks, but now it's hispanics.

We've never overcome racism.....

It's a free country. There are numerous outlets he could have turned to to seek help, or wait less than a year and move out; suicide is a coward's choice. Many people willingly attend conversion therapy and support it. We're gonna ban it, because a 17 year old couldn't handle the stress of it? What are we condemning here? The parents forcing him to go, or the fact this exists? Think about that, because many people decide to proceed with that therapy on their own free will.

Let me ask you a question. You're in France. Does what ISIS did make you mad? Make you feel like you France should do something? Because that's what's happening there. I don't give a fuck if your mortar kills 1 Israeli citizen. That's an act of war. You know damn well that any other major country would respond the same way. Officially, in response to 9-11 we overthrew a whole country, and started a conflict that lasted for more than 10 years. People never complained about it, until they realized it was for other reasons. The point is the world was fine with you US doing that in retaliation. Israel is getting attacked, they're responding. Don't play the use of force card, they're justified when Hamas detonates a suicide bomb, or launches a mortar. You do realize that they were herded onto that land, but EVER ME country practically declared war on them with no provocation. It's not PALESTINE fighting for their lands, anymore. It's Islamic terrorists from all over the ME wanting to eradicate the Jewish people. There's interviews with the so called freedom fighters, and they're not even Palestinian.

You do realize that Israel didn't start this conflict, right? They were more or less herded there by the UN, and every country around them declared war on them. They've been fighting in defense of their country since they formed. They didn't ask for violence. They wanted a place to call home from the displacement from WWII, and they were just forced unto that small piece of land, and then they get attacked through no provocation of their own. It's debatable about their growth as a country, but they never wanted this conflict. That is why they generally are NOT the ones to break cease-fires. It's peaceful over there until Hamas decides to throw a few mortars. And I'm sorry, when your country is attacked, that is an act of war which you brought on yourself. If Palestine doesn't want to get the shit bombed out of them, stop launching mortars. They're poking the beehive which is Israel with a stick.

You seem to be hating because "everyone else is". You should read up on the history and make an informed decision before you just go saying "I'm so sick of Israel". But regardless of you being informed of their situation, did you know Palestinians (Hezbollah influenced ) use public executions and suicide bombing? Did you know that Hezbollah (terrorists from all over the ME) make up the majority of the so called "Freedom Fighters for Palestine"? Did you know that organization has ties to ISIS? I highly encourage you to read up on their formation and history from the 40s and make an informed opinion.

Maybe YOU need learn some reading comprehension skills! Before I replied, you NEVER specified you were talking about the reserves. And right now deployment is highly unlikely. Unless things ramp up again in the ME, deployment is slim. Especially in the Army.

True, however I find that Spec Ops and police/security type units deploy more often than infantry. If there is a forward base somewhere, somebody has to guard it. Whether or not the US is active in that country or not. AF is deploying hundreds every 3-8 months because of Kandahar. In my opinion, it's best to go in knowing full well you will deploy and never do, than go in unprepared and not expecting it and getting a call saying you ship out in 48. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To the OP: Military will help you tons. I never got my degree while I was in (Plan to when I get out). I get out in early in a few months (due to some mega bullshit in the AF) and just interviewed with the South Carolina Highway Patrol. They ranked me top 5 of 50 apps. At the very least you WILL gain a military bearing and confidence when you serve and they WILL notice it. Being able to stand up to yelling/screaming/cussing, and being able to keep cool in stressful situations is something they will immediately notice in review boards.

Umm, you're wrong about the GI bill. Entered active duty for the first time after June 30, 1985 Had military pay reduced by $100 a month for first 12 months Continuously served for three years or two years, if that is what you first enlisted for or if you entered the Selected Reserve within a year of leaving active duty and served four years (the 2 by 4 program) You'll still deploy even now, in the MP career field. As somebody who is Active Duty Security Forces, I just returned from A-stan, and met a few MPs. Although, USUALLY, MP's won't augment into frontline combat. But they don't call them Multi-purpose for nothing.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you really trying to take an easy route there? You haven't proven anything to them that you can be a cop. You're not disciplined to them, and you have no advanced education. They'll easily look over you.

Commander's discretion, and help from a recruiter. If they really like you, they'll sugar coat the letter they send asking for a waiver. Then the commander will say yay or nay. But you can. That was a huge thing a few years ago; about letting felons into the military. While that's grand and all, again you're not going to get a it expunged without putting forth a lot of effort, with no guarantee of success. If it were easy, there would be millions of people taking advantage of it. Especially a gun crime. My advice is join the military and do LE there and stay clean, honorable discharge, and a few commendations wouldn't help. Then, that might help your chances in civilian LE and/or getting your record sealed/expunged.

Nope. Not going to happen. You made a stupid decision and that's going to carry with you. Kissing ass to a judge and begging and pleading is not going to get you a pardon. You want one, go earn it. Go do community service, volunteer, help the community, and then MAYBE a judge would even CONSIDER it; and that's after years of doing those things. If you want to be cop SO BAD, join the military. They give moral waivers for just about anything, short of rape and murder 2. Go be an MP or something. At least you'll do cop stuff.

Of course, I agree with you on that. Just because the guy has a knife you wouldn't shoot. But the moment he starts charging you with it, you shoot. I'm talking more about cops, though. They don't have the option to run away.

Good story. Wish everybody would go through it at least once, to learn what it actually takes to make that decision.

Haha, so you've been staring down somebody with a gun or a knife, while you're the one he's going to attack? That's exactly the mentality to have. When somebody is charging you with a knife, you shoot first, question later. Otherwise you can think in a body bag. That's what they teach you in the military, and in the police academy. It's saved my life once, and I'm still here. You're making yourself look like an arrogant asshole by calling me a murderer.

I'm going to guess you've never been in a life or death situation. Just because you wear a badge doesn't make you Bruce Lee. If you come at me with a knife, I will shoot your ass dead. You were going to take my life, and I'm going to take yours first. I'll let you try to peacefully resolve it without a gun. And back to Charlie Hebdo. In the US the responding police would likely show up with shotguns and M4s in their cars. Instead the French police backed off, let them get away, and had to deal with another hostage situation in which hostages were injured. Again, I'm going to guess you've had zero training for riot situations. You don't understand wine the police are in JUST riot gear, and from the middle of the crowd a brick hits them. Or there's a report of 3 people beating down an old man somewhere. The police aren't going to play 20 questions. They're going to protect themselves since they don't know where that brick came from, and they're going to move in to save the life of that old man. When the normal Street gang thug has access to AKs and M4s, then our true first responders will have them and not just SWAT. If I have a report of a man with a gun, I'll choose an M4 for more power. Less bullets I'll have to use to put him down should it come to that.

The violence was instigated by the citizens. NOT the police. The police gave lawful orders, they resisted, they got arrested. Doesn't justify the rest of the crowd resorting to violence. Yes they do. And they did. Cops will give 1 verbal warning, if you don't follow it, they'll use necessary force. They still de-escalated the situation. You're ill informed about ferguson. They showed up in riot gear with a water cannon on an armored car (nothing lethal). But when violence starts pouring into the streets and places are getting firebombed, they but out the m4s which is justified. To quote my superior "If you throw a brick at a cop, you'll get shot. If you disagree, let me show you how lethal a brick can be." I'll leave this video here for anyone that feels inclined to be educated. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fdd_1419924643

The de-escalated after violence was reported during a peaceful assembly.

They moved in to break it up only after there had been reports of violence breaking out. They let them assemble, but they didn't know how to do it peacefully. Read my post. I never once defended their actions. If a cop wants to indescrimanetly shoot somebody, he'll do it regardless of the weapon. So tell me specifically, why they shouldn't have that gear.

So because the police showed up in riot gear, that made it justifiable to start throwing stuff at the police? It's the police's fault things escalated? And there was no trampling of rights in that situation as you claim.