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I saw tons of people dissing IV *before* V came out. It was really not a very good game; while there were likable things about it, and it was an impressive technical achievement (ignoring the PC port), it was not fun. Also, Rockstar gets to take approximately zero credit for ELS, seeing as it was a really hacky way to get emergency lighting that was based on Lt. Caine coming up with a way to use things for a purpose completely and utterly differently than how Rockstar meant them to be used. (also, SA had ELM, which actually used stuff that was plausible to use for emergency lights).

Okay, what you're going to have to do is this: Remove vehicles.rpf from update.rpf Launch the game with the "-verify" option to redownload the x64e.rpf file. Close OpenIV when you do this. Reopen OpenIV *after* the verify finishes; copy the freshly reset vehicles.rpf to update.rpf Now, install the mods to update.rpf

Save vehicles.rpf to some folder on your computer (just drag-and-drop into Windows Explorer), go to update.rpf/x64/levels/gta5 in OpenIV, and drag vehicles.rpf from Windows Explorer to OpenIV.

Copy vehicles.rpf into update.rpf/x64/levels/gta5; then make all your modifications in the copy of vehicles.rpf located in update.rpf.

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Rockstar *did* implement it (when cops get out of their cars with the lights on, the lights stay on and the siren turns off). They just didn't expose it because they really don't care that much.

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I don't think that's possible. GTA V will only load modified files if it's running the OpenV.asi script, and I think that script (like all scripts) kills the game when you try to go online.

By the way: Anyone with non-Steam versions may have issues with the recommended install process (non-Steam versions with OpenIV.asi will tolerate an update.rpf that's modified, but not an x64e.rpf that's modified). The solution is to copy vehicles.rpf from x64e.rpf/levels/gta5 to update.rpf/x64/levels/gta5; you can then change stuff around in the vehicles.rpf you just put in update.rpf. This will also be better in the future when OpenIV moves to keeping update.rpf vanilla and having a copy at /mods/update.rpf which is what gets changed.

Car colors are not stored in the texture file. They're stored in carcols.ymt. To repeat what I've said elsewhere, the modifications you can make to a Rockstar-made car via texture editing are extremely limited; the basic texture plan of the car can't be changed, and you can only change the contents of individual design elements (and if an element is repeated in multiple places, you must change it in all those places).

Again: They took the job knowing that they were accountable to the public. That the public ultimately controls what they can and can't do. I really don't see how you can square "democratic society" with "the public shouldn't be able to control the police." Anyone with the view that the public, as a whole, shouldn't get to control the police has no place as a government officer. It is absolutely not the case that the only people affected by police tactics are criminals. Police tactics affect everyone; unless you are under the impression that a cop thinking someone is a criminal means they are a criminal (which is wrong), police deal with people who aren't criminals all the time. For that matter, there are limits on the punishment that can be imposed on criminals; someone being guilty of a crime doesn't mean the police can do what they want. You keep bringing up "why should uncaring civilians get to put police lives at risk?" Because the police are part of the government, and are subject to control by the people. If police aren't satisfied with civilians telling them to use tactics that increase risk to the cops, why should the cops get priority? Police officers not satisfied with their conditions of employment can quit and find a new job.

​That's exactly what I'm saying. Police serve the public. They took a job knowing it would involve risk. If they don't like the tactics they're told to operate under, then they can quit. Currently, a fair number of civilians die, or are beaten/shot, or are thrown into cages, who did not sign up to potentially have that happen to them. Does that increase risk to cops? Possibly. Too bad. No one promised them it'd be a risk-free occupation (even though it really isn't that risky a job, compared to such things as construction work). I have zero respect for any argument that tries to simultaneously claim "protect and serve is a way of life/police are these heroes for being willing to put themselves in danger for the public" and "police shouldn't have to listen to the public/reducing police risk is more important than public satisfaction with the police force." Police work is a job with conditions. No one made cops take the job. They're paid reasonably for that job. Their job is to take risk to reduce risk to the general public. When they try to pass risk off to the general public, they're no longer serving the public.

​Criminals *don't* buy .50 cal rifles. They don't buy any sort of rifle. Criminals buy pistols. Or steal pistols, sometimes from police officers. A civilian does not need to justify their purchase of a .50-cal rifle, because it's perfectly OK to buy a rifle to shoot at pieces of paper. Cops are spending taxpayer money. They are not allowed to buy weapons for the sole purpose of shooting at paper targets on a range, because that is not a good use of taxpayer money. Cops need to justify why, exactly, they need a .50-cal rifle in the course of their duties (note that police snipers tend to work from much closer range than military snipers), and are subject to the citizenry deciding that either yes, this is something police should have or no, that's not something that police should have. A civilian doesn't have the same factors, because the grounds for the general public to decide whether or not you can have a particular gun are much shakier. On the matter of shootouts, the North Hollywood shootout led to both criminals dead and zero others dead. I see it a lot as an example of "cops need lots of firepower," but really? Patrol officers had pistols and shotguns, and managed to handle the situation well enough that no one died, while waiting for reinforcements and temporarily acquiring their own high-powered weaponry. Since then, the number of recurrences of that sort of heist has been zero. Newhall? Done with a pistol, and more to do with tactics than weaponry. Incidentally, in a breakdown of the police-civilian relationship, it's not even possible for anyone except the police to be responsible. The police have to take the civilian populace as they come. If people don't want cops looking like soldiers (and there seems to be a definite trend in that direction), cops get no special say in the matter. If people don't like police tactics, cops need to change tactics. This could possibly increase risk to cops or the general public. To the degree it increases risk for cops, it's not actually too big a problem, because taking those risks is part of their job (if cops don't want to take risks, they should quit and become accountants). To the degree it increases risk to the public, that's for the public to decide.

​I can see that. The issue is that the image presented is soldiers with small POLICE patches, and it's presented rather heavily (since SWAT teams are deployed reasonably often). MPs and state troopers should be easy to tell apart. That's probably done more as a press stunt than anything else. Arpaio is not the average sheriff in the US; he is very happy with his "America's toughest sheriff" image; that office is also noted for blatant civil rights violations.

Remember, $1M more than LWOP is more than LWOP. Even if it's comparable, that still goes against the "think who's going to pay for this" argument for death. 1ian20 seemed of the opinion it was way cheaper to execute; it's not, and even at the lowest estimates it's pretty comparable.

I don't think handguns, shotguns, and optics are what people are concerned about cops getting. AFAIK, cops *don't* get semi-auto-only rifles like the AR-15s BlackJesus1 talked about through the 1033 program, which gives them military surplus (meaning the actual M4s and M16s issued by the US armed forces, which are assault rifles with at least one fully automatic/burst fire mode). I don't really see any police need for weaponized aircraft or tracked armored vehicles; for camouflage, my personal feeling is that cops should not be wearing camo as a rule. As c13 mentioned, this doesn't keep cops from buying this gear from the manufacturer (the President can't actually do that), it simply blocks transfer of certain kinds of actual US military surplus to police departments for an artificially deflated price. If cops want to get grenade launchers, ACUs, .50-cal rifles, etc., they just have to pay the actual price to the manufacturer. For stuff that's worth it (like probably grenade launchers), they'll buy it. For stuff that's not (bayonets with the possible exception of an honor guard, tracked armored vehicles, etc.), they won't get it. I'll believe that this relevantly decreases law enforcement capabilities when criminals start using anti-armor weapons, high explosives, machine guns, and the like. Criminals don't currently use that. In the very rare situations that do involve higher-powered weapons, police can take immediate action if needed (which they already do, because you can't just sit tight for your town's SWAT team to arrive), or if not they can just sit tight and wait. Personally, I'd go with even more restriction to 1033, but that's just me.

​Less than executing him, quite likely. Death sentences are incredibly expensive.

​Yeah, but replacing files is simple and irrelevant here. Replacing files doesn't require OpenIV to know anything about YFTs. Anything at all. It only requires RPF editing, and it only lets you copy cars verbatim.

​It should be on the bottom of the page, right above the copyright notice.

Is this for IV or V? We assumed V based on the keys you mentioned, but which is it?

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There is no SAPD, so logically you can't have an SAPDFR. Nor is there a Blaine County law enforcement unit. There are only three uniformed law enforcement agencies: San Andreas Highway Patrol (actually the LS Highway Patrol ingame), LSPD, and LSSD. SAHP is virtually irrelevant as a law enforcement agency. LSSD covers the majority of the map, but it pretty much covers the less interesting part. LSPDFR sounds better than LSSDFR, and the LSPD is the more developed uniformed agency (for IV, it was LCPDFR and not ASPFR, even though there was an Alderney State Police).

Replacing the files just requires the ability to edit RPF, which OpenIV already has (it can replace YMT and YTD and all the rest as well). What they've done is decode the YFT format enough to at least view it; they may or may not be able to export/import OpenFormats (if they can, then that'll be awesome).

​No, that's also how it works in the US (cops generally turn on their lights, and blip the siren if you don't pull over, and only then get on the PA if you still haven't pulled over, and if you still don't then it becomes a pursuit).

​This thread is about OpenIV, not Zmodeler.