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Hey, I started this Thread simply to keep the comment section of Albos Traffic Policer cleaner and don't have people discussing the same issue over dozens of pages. 

The problem is a stuttering after 30-40 minutes of play time. It may or may not be caused by Traffic Policer, problems with our hardware or other plugins in combination.

So far the discussion went like this: 

RambosNachbar: I'm sorry to say it, but it seems your fix did not change anything for me. I'm still getting lags after 30-40 mins of playing lspdfr.

 

anotherc6vette: Im still in the same boat Rambos ,  its like the smallest stutter when you sit still you can see the stutter of a passing vehicle ,  almost like it drops a frame but it isnt actually if that makes sense ?

 

Dippa: 

14 hours ago, anotherc6vette said:

Im still in the same boat Rambos ,  its like the smallest stutter when you sit still you can see the stutter of a passing vehicle ,  almost like it drops a frame but it isnt actually if that makes sense ?

 

 

Bro, no need to keep letting the group know the same thing with the stuttering over and over again....trust me I know and have made it a point to make Albo and other well aware of this issue and being as not many people are having this issue it’s hard for him to pin-point what the problem is. When I read your first complaint about the stutter, man I feel you because I've been talking about it for a while now. I do however watch when it was happening, it seemed to stop after the Ragehook .37 update happened, and I've mentioned this on here. I'm starting to think it may have something to do with OUR hardware, even though we have pretty beefy set-ups. I'm also noticing the people mentioning the issue have the GTX 970 Graphics card and the I7 4790 processor like I do. With that said, so far the stuttering has subsided for me after removing “safe chaser” and a few other resource heavy Plugins (and trust me any plugins that perform the best need resources). I feel this is strange being as my card had 4 GB to itself and I too have 16 GB of ram on my gaming pc and yet still get occasional memory error crashes. We (meaning the community along with Albo) will figure it out eventually… because trust me, I know it’s frustrating when you have mods like Albo’s, that make the game so much more enjoyable, because I feel it also lol. I was having and still CAN have the same lag issue as you when I use certain plugins along with Arrest Manager and Traffic Policer. We hear you bro trust me and looking for a resolution lol

 

anotherc6vette: I dont think it is a albo issue  ,  i just seems weird that my old 750 never had any issue at all ,  i am also running .36 ,  it has to be a 970 thing , 

i will keep going till i figure out what it is ,  i have a feeling other people have a diff kind of stutter thats why i mention it to see if that particular person is having the style i am ,  and sorry im not PC person and because of that i have to ask questions

 

HvyMetal: Would it help to run some bench marks? Or video of this on going issue? Not saying I'm having the same lag issue. Or posting system specs?

I would guess the more detailed information the makers of the mod have and those helping, the better understanding they will have to know what the issue(s) is. And resolve the issue in a timely manner. 

Just saying.

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I think it is a good idea to keep the rest of the discussion in this thread. 

@anotherc6vette; @Dippa; @HvyMetal; @Albo1125

 

 

My System: i7 6700; 16 Gb RAM; 6 Gb Gtx 980ti; Win 7

 

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Plugins like KeepCalm are known to drain resources and generate stutter.

Can be a hardware issue like CPU or GPU bottlenecking themselves for one reason or another.

Other than that, the game also has a memory leak issue that has been found by the community barely a few days after GTA V release on PC, but was obviously never acknowledged by Rockstar nor ever truly fixed. Basically the game doesn't delete useless data from the RAM like it's supposed to do, which results in the RAM being overloaded, forcing the system to use a page file to stock the provisional data on the hard drive. But since loading data from the hard drive is significantly longer, the game stutters, creating microfreezes of 1 frame or a few more.

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*My PC Specs are  i7 4790; 16 GB RAM; 4 GB GTX 970; Win 10*

As I've mentioned before, I noticed a few people with the same EXACT set-up as I have and they have the lagging stuttering issue after 15-30 of play using Traffic Policer. Traffic Policer was the common denominator with each person but I can't pin point what other plug-in combo might be clashing with it because when I ask for a screen shot of all the plugins to users who have this issue, many never respond to my query lol

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3 hours ago, Hystery said:

Plugins like KeepCalm are known to drain resources and generate stutter.

Do you have an idea what other plugins are performance heavy, so I can test a little bit.

I know about the memory leak issue, but never had it. Maybe Traffic Policer is just the one drop too much, that lets the barrel overflow. 

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5 minutes ago, RambosNachbar said:

Do you have an idea what other plugins are performance heavy, so I can test a little bit.

I know about the memory leak issue, but never had it. Maybe Traffic Policer is just the one drop too much, that lets the barrel overflow. 

Can't think of some on top of my head, but I can clearly say that Traffic Policer is not performance heavy. The only part of that plugin that could be performance heavy are the random ambient events, that can be disabled in the .ini file.

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16 minutes ago, Hystery said:

Can't think of some on top of my head, but I can clearly say that Traffic Policer is not performance heavy. The only part of that plugin that could be performance heavy are the random ambient events, that can be disabled in the .ini file.

Ok, I will test it next time without Keep Calm and without ambient events. I let you guys know, how the test went.

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10 hours ago, RambosNachbar said:

Hey, I started this Thread simply to keep the comment section of Albos Traffic Policer cleaner and don't have people discussing the same issue over dozens of pages. 

The problem is a stuttering after 30-40 minutes of play time. It may or may not be caused by Traffic Policer, problems with our hardware or other plugins in combination.

So far the discussion went like this: 

RambosNachbar: I'm sorry to say it, but it seems your fix did not change anything for me. I'm still getting lags after 30-40 mins of playing lspdfr.

 

anotherc6vette: Im still in the same boat Rambos ,  its like the smallest stutter when you sit still you can see the stutter of a passing vehicle ,  almost like it drops a frame but it isnt actually if that makes sense ?

 

Dippa: 

 

 

Bro, no need to keep letting the group know the same thing with the stuttering over and over again....trust me I know and have made it a point to make Albo and other well aware of this issue and being as not many people are having this issue it’s hard for him to pin-point what the problem is. When I read your first complaint about the stutter, man I feel you because I've been talking about it for a while now. I do however watch when it was happening, it seemed to stop after the Ragehook .37 update happened, and I've mentioned this on here. I'm starting to think it may have something to do with OUR hardware, even though we have pretty beefy set-ups. I'm also noticing the people mentioning the issue have the GTX 970 Graphics card and the I7 4790 processor like I do. With that said, so far the stuttering has subsided for me after removing “safe chaser” and a few other resource heavy Plugins (and trust me any plugins that perform the best need resources). I feel this is strange being as my card had 4 GB to itself and I too have 16 GB of ram on my gaming pc and yet still get occasional memory error crashes. We (meaning the community along with Albo) will figure it out eventually… because trust me, I know it’s frustrating when you have mods like Albo’s, that make the game so much more enjoyable, because I feel it also lol. I was having and still CAN have the same lag issue as you when I use certain plugins along with Arrest Manager and Traffic Policer. We hear you bro trust me and looking for a resolution lol

 

anotherc6vette: I dont think it is a albo issue  ,  i just seems weird that my old 750 never had any issue at all ,  i am also running .36 ,  it has to be a 970 thing , 

i will keep going till i figure out what it is ,  i have a feeling other people have a diff kind of stutter thats why i mention it to see if that particular person is having the style i am ,  and sorry im not PC person and because of that i have to ask questions

 

HvyMetal: Would it help to run some bench marks? Or video of this on going issue? Not saying I'm having the same lag issue. Or posting system specs?

I would guess the more detailed information the makers of the mod have and those helping, the better understanding they will have to know what the issue(s) is. And resolve the issue in a timely manner. 

Just saying.

________________________________________________________________________________________

I think it is a good idea to keep the rest of the discussion in this thread. 

@anotherc6vette; @Dippa; @HvyMetal; @Albo1125

 

 

My System: i7 6700; 16 Gb RAM; 6 Gb Gtx 980ti; Win 7

 

I apologize offering/suggesting a idea trying to shed a beam of help was interpreted as a negative. Not my intent. I'll leave the issue to the experts.

Good day.

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10 hours ago, RambosNachbar said:

Do you have an idea what other plugins are performance heavy, so I can test a little bit.

I know about the memory leak issue, but never had it. Maybe Traffic Policer is just the one drop too much, that lets the barrel overflow. 

The plugins that demand the most from what I've experienced are as follows:

Safe Chaser, Arrest Manager, Traffic Policer, Keep Calm, Law Enforcement Jurisdiction, Custom Backup, Assorted Callouts, Wilderness, and PoliceToolbox. Most plugins that alter Traffic, peds, and behavior use a lot a juice. Again, the best plugins that are  much needed, are the ones that use the most resources, so for me I don't run many at the same time. The lag is being caused with something running a long with Traffic Policer. When I ran test and removed Traffic Policer, the lag stopped completely. This, compounded by the memory leak mentioned by @Hystery, and I believe there is the beginning of our problem... I will do some test again also @RambosNachbar and see what I come up with bro. :thumbsup:

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Dippa and me stood in touch before and talked about the laggs.

In my opionion they´re releated by the traffic policer.

My systemconfig:

Spoiler

CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-860 Prozessor
*2,8 Ghz
*DDR3 1333 MHz, 12 GB RAM
*128 GB SSD, GTA V is running on an encrypted HDD
*Graphiccard HD Radeon 7900
*Windows 7 64 Bit

I´m using the following plugins:

Spoiler

Rage Trainer

Traffic Policer

Custom Backup

Assorted Callouts

Agency Callouts

Repeat Offender

Law Callouts

Hero Cop

Snow Mod

Easyrepair

 

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I tested some more today. As the main plugins I used traffic policer and arrest manager. Any other performance heavy plugin was disabled or completly uninstalled. But I still started to stutter after more or less 40- 50 minutes. My Cpu and Ram usage remaind on normal levels. 

And now I pretty much have no idea what else I could do.

Edit: Only Traffic Policer this time and not even 1 additional callout plugin and it's still the same. Next thing I will do on monday is to re-install GTA on a different HDD.

Maybe you guys had some better results with your tests. 

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32 minutes ago, RambosNachbar said:

I tested @Albo1125s new Traffic Policer and Arrest Manager for 45 minutes now and it looks pretty good to me. I will do a stress test later today with more performance heavy plugins etc. and let you know. 

 

Good to hear - I hope this latest fix has remedied most of the issues.

Would love to hear from the rest of you what your results are on the latest TP update (possible tanks to all the info above :smile:)

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On 18.4.2016 at 11:48 AM, Albo1125 said:

Good to hear - I hope this latest fix has remedied most of the issues.

Would love to hear from the rest of you what your results are on the latest TP update (possible tanks to all the info above :smile:)

I'm a little bit disappointed that nobody else ansewerd in the mean time, but even with some call outs, more plugins and high def vehicle models I don't get that stuttering anymore. It's seems that whatever you did, fixed the issue. A BIIIIG thank you from me to you for this! :thumbsup:

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Just now, RambosNachbar said:

I'm a little bit disappointed that nobody else ansewerd in the mean time, but even with some call outs, more plugins and high def vehicle models I don't get that stuttering anymore. It's seems that whatever you did, fixed the issue. A BIIIIG thank you from me to you for this! :thumbsup:

In this business, no news tends to be good news most of the time :biggrin:

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