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Violence Resumes (again) in Ferguson

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For those of you not residing in the United States, yes, this is still going on.

Yesterday marked the anniversary for the Ferguson shooting of Michael Brown by police. The protests in Ferguson resumed after police shot a man, Tyrone Harris, that they say opened fire on them this past Sunday. Tyrone remains in critical condition. Today, prosecutors issued 10 charges against Tyrone, including four counts of first-degree assault on a police officer. Hours after the shooting, two more teens were injured in a drive-by shooting as they walked to a memorial honoring Michael Brown, a criminal. Read more at the link below.

http://news.yahoo.com/police-shoot-gunman-who-opened-fire-during-ferguson-anniversary-protest-055405433.html

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  • DivineHustle
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    Or an entire community of people that are too lazy to get off their butts and earn a living, so they sit around doing nothing and soak up welfare and low-income from the federal government.

  • MayhemMercenary
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    Well, I can tell you one thing. Smashing windows, burning businesses, and destroying police cars will not help. They would be able to hold down a job, but they destroyed all of the businesses that cou

  • I could understand if you said "there are 100 reasons and laziness isn't the only one" or "the biggest one", but you say like you personally know every and all people who are poor. There are people wh

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If Harris survives, he should have a fair trial to determine if the shooting against him was justified or not. On another note, besides the drive-by shooting, has there been any other outbursts of violence? It's kind of sad that the truly peaceful protests in this town are overshadowed by criminals who want to steal, rob, and murder. 

 

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If Harris survives, he should have a fair trial to determine if the shooting against him was justified or not. On another note, besides the drive-by shooting, has there been any other outbursts of violence? It's kind of sad that the truly peaceful protests in this town are overshadowed by criminals who want to steal, rob, and murder. 

 

I think he's already been prosecuted. The shooting was confirmed to be justified, he actually shot at an undercover police car when it was following him.

I think he's already been prosecuted. The shooting was confirmed to be justified, he actually shot at an undercover police car when it was following him.

Has he pled guilty or was he found guilty at the trial? Also, were there any other outbursts of violence, besides the drive-by and Harris' shooting?

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Has he pled guilty or was he found guilty at the trial? Also, were there any other outbursts of violence, besides the drive-by and Harris' shooting?

Just an hour ago a State of Emergency was issued in Ferguson, so this makes me assume that there are bursts of violence happening. I'm not sure of the trial, but he is being convicted of a lot of stuff that's been proven.

Just an hour ago a State of Emergency was issued in Ferguson, so this makes me assume that there are bursts of violence happening. I'm not sure of the trial, but he is being convicted of a lot of stuff that's been proven.

If more of these events happen in different cites and different states, martial law will be virtually in effect. 

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An entire disenfranchised community with no opportunity, poor education, and decades of abuse and exploitation from law enforcement. There's never an excuse for violence like this, but we shouldn't act like this is coming out of nowhere.

Hope everyone stays safe in MO.

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An entire disenfranchised community with no opportunity, poor education, and decades of abuse and exploitation from law enforcement. There's never an excuse for violence like this, but we shouldn't act like this is coming out of nowhere.

Hope everyone stays safe in MO.

Or an entire community of people that are too lazy to get off their butts and earn a living, so they sit around doing nothing and soak up welfare and low-income from the federal government.

Or an entire community of people that are too lazy to get off their butts and earn a living, so they sit around doing nothing and soak up welfare and low-income from the federal government.

Where have you gotten this idea? Why would an entire community of people decide to be terribly poor in order to get a relatively minuscule leg-up from the government?

 

http://time.com/3138176/ferguson-demographic-change/

http://www.city-data.com/poverty/poverty-Ferguson-Missouri.html

http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/the-avenue/posts/2014/08/15-ferguson-suburban-poverty

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/mar/15/jalen-ross/black-name-resume-50-percent-less-likely-get-respo/

 

 

 

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You'd have to ask those people, I'm not one of them.

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Yes, absolutely. If I could sit on my butt and make enough to support myself by doing nothing, I definitely would like to do so; but I have much higher self-expectations and standards than that.

Yes, absolutely. If I could sit on my butt and make enough to support myself by doing nothing, I definitely would like to do so; but I have much higher self-expectations and standards than that.

Yes, absolutely. If I could sit on my butt and make enough to support myself by doing nothing, I definitely would like to do so; but I have much higher self-expectations and standards than that.

People don't choose to be poor. You can't choose that. It's like people saying "Psh, unemployed people are lazy, if they really looked for a job they would find one". It doesn't work like that. Life doesn't work like that.

 

 

An entire disenfranchised community with no opportunity, poor education, and decades of abuse and exploitation from law enforcement. There's never an excuse for violence like this, but we shouldn't act like this is coming out of nowhere.

Hope everyone stays safe in MO.

The word usage of 'disenfranchised' was used wrong, I don't think these people had been deprived of their right to vote.

disenfranchised
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adjdeprived of the rights of citizenship especially the right to vote

...Any way, the family or the community erected a memorial plaque at the sidewalk of the shooting, there is a photo of it just search YouTube, however I blame the media and perceptions of the people for skewing the situation beyond the facts and into hearsay and assumption. They are all in denial or do not want to face the fact that just prior to the event in question M. Brown robbed a store, was reported and soon after assaulted a peace officer for his weapon which in turn constitutes use of force in defense of self and or others. No one goes for an officer's weapon unless there was intent to use it... But then nobody wants to remember in the end he was a criminal doing the wrong thing and being at the wrong place at the wrong time just like anyone else caught or taken down.

Remember the L.A. Riots? Cost projections was $1 Billion, now think about Ferguson, though I keep in mind that the percentage of the group is a small minority however those who go beyond the 'protest in peaceful assembly' have taken to destroying their community have cost needlessly lives and devalues the community including damaging businesses run by families who may need them to make a living.

Those who loot & riot I firmly believe should be processed as domestic terrorists under U.S. Code Title 18, Part 1 Chapter 113B § 2331.

(5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that—

(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.

Part (A) - Rioters in Ferguson throw Molotov cocktails, rocks, bottles, assault and shoot both officers and unintended pedestrians caught in the crossfire. Therefore involve acts that are dangerous to human life and is a violation of criminal law of the U.S. and the State within.

Part (B) Appear to be intended--

(i) Oh yes, the civilian population is intimidated, recent articles have discussed the fear of some parents who live in the area fear for the safety of their children or of themselves on the streets because of the unrest and riots. This is to include that of which of the businesses that were damaged, looted or destroyed as a result raising fears further.

(ii) This most certainly caused local, state and federal government to be influenced to take action on part because of the excessive unrest resulting of the incident.

(iii) The conduct of the rioters have affected the government through its mass destruction of damaging, looting and burning of buildings, businesses, cars, and law enforcement vehicles. Including shootings...

(C) All of which was right here in the good ole U.S.A.

 

 

 

What ever happen to assemble peaceably and to petition the government as inscribed in the 1st Amendment, don't think it said anything about the subject above presented...

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The word usage of 'disenfranchised' was used wrong, I don't think these people had been deprived of their right to vote.

disenfranchised
1

adjdeprived of the rights of citizenship especially the right to vote

...Any way, the family or the community erected a memorial plaque at the sidewalk of the shooting, there is a photo of it just search YouTube, however I blame the media and perceptions of the people for skewing the situation beyond the facts and into hearsay and assumption. They are all in denial or do not want to face the fact that just prior to the event in question M. Brown robbed a store, was reported and soon after assaulted a peace officer for his weapon which in turn constitutes use of force in defense of self and or others. No one goes for an officer's weapon unless there was intent to use it... But then nobody wants to remember in the end he was a criminal doing the wrong thing and being at the wrong place at the wrong time just like anyone else caught or taken down.

Remember the L.A. Riots? Cost projections was $1 Billion, now think about Ferguson, though I keep in mind that the percentage of the group is a small majority however those who go beyond the 'protest in peaceful assembly' have taken to destroying their community have cost needlessly lives and devalues the community including damaging businesses run by families who may need them to make a living.

Those who loot & riot I firmly believe should be processed as domestic terrorists under U.S. Code Title 18, Part 1 Chapter 113B § 2331.

Part (A) - Rioters in Ferguson throw Molotov cocktails, rocks, bottles, assault and shoot both officers and unintended pedestrians caught in the crossfire. Therefore involve acts that are dangerous to human life and is a violation of criminal law of the U.S. and the State within.

Part (B) Appear to be intended--

(i) Oh yes, the civilian population is intimidated, recent articles have discussed the fear of some parents who live in the area fear for the safety of their children or of themselves on the streets because of the unrest and riots. This is to include that of which of the businesses that were damaged, looted or destroyed as a result raising fears further.

(ii) This most certainly caused local, state and federal government to be influenced to take action on part because of the excessive unrest resulting of the incident.

(iii) The conduct of the rioters have affected the government through its mass destruction of damaging, looting and burning of buildings, businesses, cars, and law enforcement vehicles. Including shootings...

(C) All of which was right here in the good ole U.S.A.

 

 

 

What ever happen to assemble peaceably and to petition the government as inscribed in the 1st Amendment, don't think it said anything about the subject above presented...

Correction: "Small minority"

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People don't choose to be poor. You can't choose that. It's like people saying "Psh, unemployed people are lazy, if they really looked for a job they would find one". It doesn't work like that. Life doesn't work like that.

I assume you've never driven down a low income neighborhood in the Unifed States. Maybe it doesn't work that way over in Europe or in France, but it works that way in a lot of American neighborhoods. A 15 or 16 year old girl with a child can make roughly $300 on welfare alone, and up to $500 on social security. That's $800 a month, plus any other form of income they may be receiving on the side. We'll assume, for the sake of this discussion, they make an extra $100 to $150 doing small side jobs a month. Not only is the girl now making $900 a month, but the father has a responsibility to pay her child support every month as well. This isn't optional, it's required by law and the father will be arrested if he doesn't comply. She can also get food stamps, a substitution for cash at the grocery store basically. When this all adds up, you can absolutely live in some of the poorer neighborhoods in America, such as some of the inner city Baltimore neighborhoods. Some people are willing to do that, and more than 100,000,000 Americans on welfare out of the 300,000,000+ we have? That's not the best ratio in the world. The next time you visit the United States I encourage you to drive down to Ferguson or Baltimore and tell those people that you feel for them. I'm sure they'll welcome you just like home. (Just make sure your doors are locked, I almost got carjacked in Baltimore in the past lol)

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People don't choose to be poor. You can't choose that. It's like people saying "Psh, unemployed people are lazy, if they really looked for a job they would find one". It doesn't work like that. Life doesn't work like that.

Sure, you may be born into a poor family, but that does not mean you can't change it. As a start, people with little education can get a job at a fast food restaurant. Sure, it does not pay much, but it's better than having other people pay for your government cheese. I suppose that when the government is paying for you, you really have no incentive to get up and do anything. I think it'd be smart for the government to cut off welfare to people who have nothing wring with them. If they have two perfectly working arms, legs, and everything else. Welfare should be for people who need it. Not someone who doesn't want to hold down a job because "I don't feel like it".

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