All I gotta say is phucking Obama  he has gone loopy in his 2nd term  nd yes I know my gen when I was in college put him in office  

He has also gone soft not taking ISIS seriously or the crsis in Ukraine 

I don't see Israelis, Christians, Hindus, cutting off the heads of innocent men, women, children; and you sit there and call Israel oppressors?  My lord...no wonder you people in France are run over by these extremist, and you people still don't get it.  

 

How about defending those who'd defend you?  You think ISIS wouldn't cut your damn head off in a heartbeat pal?  And you defend these terrorists...good job!

 

Wake up, this isn't academic exercise, this is real life.

 

 

I don't like liberals because they disregard the truth and common sense for their own ideals. Further, while pretending to be open-minded, they only listen to and accept others' idea, no matter how absurd, so long as they agree with them in some way. If the ideas don't agree with theirs, they are condemned out of hand. They also think they know better than everyone else what's best for you and me and will do whatever it takes to make sure they "save" us--even lie. They're hypocrites.

This is just wrong, this right here depends on which liberal you talk too, I know lots of liberals who have more common sense than some people I know, what you're doing right here is labeling all liberals and that is just not fair. Also you do realize that conservatives are also hypocritical as well.

Liberals bend over backwards to deny the truth, and argue with common sense.  As Dr. Savage pointed out, Liberalisim is a mental disorder.  How else can you explain their denial of facts, truth and science?

 

Oh well, we'll still defend their right to be stupid and blind.

Where is your proof that Obama is a mulism, and how did he turn his back on Israel.

 

 

Okay to say that Palestinians are terriosts is ignorant Because not all of them are, the situation is a lot more complicated than that, Israel is not always the victim, so at least accept that.

And who said I was a liberal, what does that have to do with anything?

Dredetriot is heading everything on the head and none of you liberals like the truth 

90%  Palestinians are terriosts are  period they help them shelter them feed them join them list goes on and on 

Obama has basically said screw  Israel screw  ukraine and screw  whatever is going on with ISIS I'm just gonna sit back  drink wine and enjoy my last 2 year's in office pushing domestic issues

Simple soultion nuke the hell outta the middle east  Palestine Syria  Iran etc Hell throw Russia in there as well since htey wanna create problems and invade countries to put their old empire back tgether they would slove a whole lot of the world's answer's  its turning into 21st crusades  

What we need to do is go back to middle east help jordan Iraq and Israel crush ISIS and put troops in Ukraine and kick russia's ass

But will Obama do that hell no lets keep talking to them even though they are laughing at him waving the middle finger at him and staying on their current course of action

Hell if I was president we have the Airforce and Marines in Ukraine fighting the rebel's  / russia and then the Army and navy fighting / pounding the hell outta ISIS with special forces in both area's

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This is just wrong, this right here depends on which liberal you talk too, I know lots of liberals who have more common sense than some people I know, what you're doing right here is labeling all liberals and that is just not fair. Also you do realize that conservatives are also hypocritical as well.

Of course not all people are the same, but liberal ideology is, regardless of who you talk to. There are hypocrites that are conservatives, but the conservative ideology is straight forward. Liberalism is not only contradictory, but it's hypocritical. Liberals claim they know what's best for the country, what's best for the American people, yet they only make decisions that gain them more support and votes. They don't care, they just want to hold office.

Dredetriot is heading everything on the head and none of you liberals like the truth

90% Palestinians are terriosts are period they help them shelter them feed them join them list goes on and on

Obama has basically said fuck Israel fuck ukraine and fuck whatever is going on with ISIS I'm just gonna sit back drink wine and enjoy my last 2 year's in office pushing domestic issues

Simple soultion nuke the fuck outta the middle east Palestine Syria Iran etc Hell throw Russia in there as well since htey wanna create problems and invade countries to put their old empire back tgether they would slove a whole lot of the world's answer's its turning into 21st crusades

What we need to do is go back to middle east help jordan Iraq and Israel crush ISIS and put troops in Ukraine and kick russia's ass

I can't believe what I just read, nuking the Middle East and Russia, I really hope this is a joke, if not you're advocating for genocide on a greater scale than the holocuast. I'm sorry, but this is just not true, Obama right now is trying to get permission from congress to use military force against ISIS.

I can't believe what I just read, nuking the Middle East and Russia, I really hope this is a joke, if not you're advocating for genocide on a greater scale than the holocuast. I'm sorry, but this is just not true, Obama right now is trying to get permission from congress to use military force against ISIS.

 

the fuck he is that dumb shit obama still think's  diplomacy is gonna work while they run rampant  same with whats going on in Ukraine and Israel nothing like having a Quaker for president

and no shit you can't go round dropping nukes left and right its an expression  

also if you learn to read everything see  *" What we need to do is go back to middle east help jordan Iraq and Israel crush ISIS and put troops in Ukraine and kick russia's ass "*

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He's trying to get authorization so he can blame the republicans when his "strategy" fails, which it's failing now.  All of a sudden he wants congressional authorization?  Come on man, this is a trap and the Republicans know it.

 

Every time he speaks he lies, and this is a FACT!  Not rhetoric.  He is a serial lair in chief!

Of course not all people are the same, but liberal ideology is, regardless of who you talk to. There are hypocrites that are conservatives, but the conservative ideology is straight forward. Liberalism is not only contradictory, but it's hypocritical. Liberals claim they know what's best for the country, what's best for the American people, yet they only make decisions that gain them more support and votes. They don't care, they just want to hold office.

Again, you act like it's only liberals who do this, conservatives are just as guilty, I disagree when you say their ideology is straightforward, yeah because keeping gay marriage, abortion, marihuana illegal is totally straightforward. Not all liberals are like this, just as many bad things as the liberals have done, the same can be said for conservatives.

Again, you act like it's only liberals who do this, conservatives are just as guilty, I disagree when you say their ideology is straightforward, yeah because keeping gay marriage, abortion, marihuana illegal is totally straightforward. Not all liberals are like this, just as many bad things as the liberals have done, the same can be said for conservatives.

Conservatism honors traditional American morals and values. The right to bear arms, man and woman marriages, honoring Americas military, a strong education system, secured borders, etc. Liberalism implies the expression of new ideas and new ways to go about solving problems. I have no issue with that. I start to have issues when liberals act as if they're the saviors of America for the sole purpose of gaining votes. Conservatives care more about the health of America and upholding traditional American values, like the ones I described above, than gaining votes.

I didn't say you were a liberal, I've no idea, sorry if it sounded that way...I meant libs in a general term.

 

Palestinians are terrorist, and Hezbollah is funded by Iran, another terrorist state.  Whom, by the way, the Shah made a public declaration to obliterate Israel, UK, USA off the planet...hence why they should never be allowed to have nukes or ICBMs.  Make no mistake, they'd give the nukes to the Palestinians, N. Korea, ISIS, ect.  

 

It's mess over there and that whole area is run by homicidal lunatics bent on murdering unarmed, non-combatant men, women and children.  This is why we must stand shoulder to shoulder with Israel.

Are you aware that it was the CIA who reinstated the Shah in Iran? 

 

Liberals bend over backwards to deny the truth, and argue with common sense.  As Dr. Savage pointed out, Liberalisim is a mental disorder.  How else can you explain their denial of facts, truth and science?

 

Oh well, we'll still defend their right to be stupid and blind.

All of my keks.

 

 

This thread has devolved into nothing more than partisan hacks bashing the other side with baseless claims and empty rhetoric. 

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So long as this topic remains on the subject of liberalism and conservatism, it will continue to be chaos. Tension between American Liberals and American Conservstives are like the tension between the US and Russia.

So long as this topic remains on the subject of liberalism and conservatism, it will continue to be chaos. Tension between American Liberals and American Conservstives are like the tension between the US and Russia.

Well in that case we can stop talking about that.

On topic: As I said before, Obama made a fair comparison in my eyes and all these people here saying we need to send troops to the Ukraine don't have a clue as to the real background behind the whole story.

Well in that case we can stop talking about that.

On topic: As I said before, Obama made a fair comparison in my eyes and all these people here saying we need to send troops to the Ukraine don't have a clue as to the real background behind the whole story.

We can't because whether or not Obama made a good decision is based on personal opinion, and these opinions begin to differ based on the belief in Conservatism or Liberalism. Conservatives believe that this was a low blow to Christianity, Liberals believe he's just speaking the truth.

We can't because whether or not Obama made a good decision is based on personal opinion, and these opinions begin to differ based on the belief in Conservatism or Liberalism. Conservatives believe that this was a low blow to Christianity, Liberals believe he's just speaking the truth.

You may not be able to talk about whether a decision was good or bad without turning it into a partisan slugfest; however, that doesn't mean no one else is able to separate one decision from all of the baggage associated with an entire philosophy of government. If you can't talk about this without turning it into "liberal vs. conservative," then stop posting in this thread. Anyone who can is free to keep participating.

You may not be able to talk about whether a decision was good or bad without turning it into a partisan slugfest; however, that doesn't mean no one else is able to separate one decision from all of the baggage associated with an entire philosophy of government. If you can't talk about this without turning it into "liberal vs. conservative," then stop posting in this thread. Anyone who can is free to keep participating.

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll definitely take it into consideration.

Yea, the libs are getting a good smack-down, so now the mods have to step in before it gets too bloody.

 

Sorry, but I don't see how you can extricate one from the other...Obama and his decisions.  One makes decisions based on ones belief, i.e; ideology.  So you can't talk about Obama without talking about his ulterior motives and ideologies that guide him.  This being in the political forums section, what's wrong with ideologies anyhow?

 

So I'll shut up now.  It's been fun though.

 

Good day,

 

DrDetroit

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hmmm. it seems to me most people have missed the main point of this issue. The fact Obama would rather justify IS actions by comparing them to another religion is problem enough. Regardless if Christianity was a problem back in the day or whatever the main problem here is rather than standing up as a LEADER of a nation and saying (Like Jordan) that we will crush the IS, our president would rather attempt to justify it. 

 

I am really not interested in the liberal vs conservative bullshit, it's this bipartisan setup that has fucked over the nation but regardless of your political support you have to be dumber than a loaf of bread if you believe Obama and his legion of doom have positive American foreign and domestic intentions in mind. He's been a scandalous pathetic excuse of a president from the start and will continue to be a disappointment until 2016...no surprises here