Estes buey, I call it the Sisy Dog Branch cause they are Basically Weekend Wirriors. N' is what an actual Weekend warrior called it. N' they are the first ones dispatched out first before the actually Army. N' I do know some Kids that are currently weekend warriors.

 

On an other note about 9 1/2 Years of being a weekend warrior is equal to one full year of Service.

Also you have to be able to view things from my Perspective. N' I already showed one of those African-American Wanna bees up. N' I am not being Racial.

N' Also buey I Mexican, mi prospective es different from Americans. Even Americans agree, N' other Race as well. N' I am talking bout 40 or so years of age people.

 

Sergeanto!

I personally could care less what you do in your freetime with those "wanna bees" and if you think they are just Weekend Warriors think of the ones who perished protecting you and your Freedom of Speech so you can bash them all you want WHEN YOU HAVEN'T EVEN SERVED. Until you have actually served in a Branch of Service in the United States Military: US Army, US Marine Corps, US Navy, US Air Force, or the US Coast Guard don't fucking bash the people who protect you. They might only train on the weekends but they are one of the most deployed Units in the Military. And those other people? Unless they have served they ain't got no room to talk.

I don't mind an argument but lets try to keep it civil and lets not offend anybody. These are all people who put their lives on the line for each of our nations.

Yeah, the argument is just weird and the guy just words it to get a bad feeling toward those that respect the service. I feel the "Don't feed the troll" term applies here.

Anyway, Ireland's host countries Special Forces capability is quite impressive and does have a lot of offer the country so I would never consider putting it down. But, I just maintain knowledge I have from various branches I work with and my current positioning within SOCOM (the command headquarters, not a specific team or group) at McDill, AFB and I'll continue to see if I can find anything else out for you. I'm mostly an Army guy, so I would take what's black and white from the wording of other members and I can't insist more enough upon referring to someone in the profession.

Additionally, it's not motivation that gets you through a school like that and it never will be. There's no one person with that amount of motivation in the world and it's quickly discovered with your fellow brethren. Instead, it's the sheer desire to never quit. Just never let yourself quit. You can tell yourself that you are and that you're done mentally and make false promises to yourself about quitting, but never admit to failing yourself or the course and never quit. It's how I made it through Ranger School as did many others. So no matter what country you work for or serve in, it's all about the amount of effort and work you put into it.

Finally, you can enlist (not commission) in all four major branches of service without being an American citizen. However, you can not get a security clearance or be placed in candidacy of one of those units until you renounce your citizenship and get an American one. But, military helps out tremendously with that and pays quite a few of the costs on your behalf.

Edited March 23, 201412 yr by ArchangelTwo

Nor can you be commissioned as an officer without an American citizenship; like the SEALs, it requires qualifying for a Secret clearance. Also, I'm not sure how being an officer in a foreign military affects clearances (it looks like it might be fine if your service happened before renouncing Irish citizenship, but it'd be something to ask about).

What I've read about recruiters is that basically, the only thing to believe is what you get on paper in your contract - any promises that don't get put in your actual written contract that you sign aren't worth much.

I personally could care less what you do in your freetime with those "wanna bees" and if you think they are just Weekend Warriors think of the ones who perished protecting you and your Freedom of Speech so you can bash them all you want WHEN YOU HAVEN'T EVEN SERVED. Until you have actually served in a Branch of Service in the United States Military: US Army, US Marine Corps, US Navy, US Air Force, or the US Coast Guard don't fucking bash the people who protect you. They might only train on the weekends but they are one of the most deployed Units in the Military. And those other people? Unless they have served they ain't got no room to talk.

Who said I never Served?

Also, Did you not ready Correctly? Some on in the national Guard called him Self and other national Guard People Weekend Worriers.

N' you need to Calm down is the First thing for you to do.

 

N' for our Safety; No Further.

 

 

Sergeatno!

Excuse me? Might want to watch why you say. I have a brother in the National Guard, and its probably going to be deployed soon. No one in the military is a sissy, yeah some jobs are harder then others. The only thing that would make you a sissy is if you run away from your group. 

 

Oh by the way if we end up going back to pre WW2 military size that so called "Sisy" branch will be one of the only branches capable of defending the country. 

 

I know a few people that were in the national guard that have been killed, so if you want to be calling the national guard sisys I would like to see you go up to a active national guards man and say that to him.

 

Until you do that, do me and everyone else a favor and shut up and stop calling them there "sisy" branch. 

Primedo Wey es que te, Calm Down Like the Other Wey.

Who said I never Served? N' you need to ready as well.

national Guard are first to respond than the Actual

Army. N' do my self a favor N' every one else is by

Shuting up is not an option. Not in that Tone nor any format.

I also have people I know that are in the National Guard.

I Tell them Weekend Warriors (They have called them self that)

N' I do that then they are able to be Motivated to be the Real Thing.

Not the Door Persons. It mainly is a Branch that is for Kids that are

still in school N' get Lots of Money. Now that they need to rethink.

But es what es is.

 

For our Safety No Further.

 

 

Serganto!

Who said I never Served?

Also, Did you not ready Correctly? Some on in the national Guard called him Self and other national Guard People Weekend Worriers.

N' you need to Calm down is the First thing for you to do.

 

N' for our Safety; No Further.

 

 

Sergeatno!

 

You stated in your first post: "I thinking bout Join But IDK, Not sure I want to "Fight" for People's Freedom that they do not even appreciate or any thing. AKA, Kids that try to Act like African Americans, or those so called Cool

kids, or Bad As*es. They Appreciate absolutely nothing."

 

I'm also perfectly calm but not calm with you bashing our Service Members

Cut out the side discussion; this has nothing at all to do with the Navy SEALs.

Nor can you be commissioned as an officer without an American citizenship; like the SEALs, it requires qualifying for a Secret clearance. Also, I'm not sure how being an officer in a foreign military affects clearances (it looks like it might be fine if your service happened before renouncing Irish citizenship, but it'd be something to ask about).

What I've read about recruiters is that basically, the only thing to believe is what you get on paper in your contract - any promises that don't get put in your actual written contract that you sign aren't worth much.

 

 

Yeah, the argument is just weird and the guy just words it to get a bad feeling toward those that respect the service. I feel the "Don't feed the troll" term applies here.

Anyway, Ireland's host countries Special Forces capability is quite impressive and does have a lot of offer the country so I would never consider putting it down. But, I just maintain knowledge I have from various branches I work with and my current positioning within SOCOM (the command headquarters, not a specific team or group) at McDill, AFB and I'll continue to see if I can find anything else out for you. I'm mostly an Army guy, so I would take what's black and white from the wording of other members and I can't insist more enough upon referring to someone in the profession.

Additionally, it's not motivation that gets you through a school like that and it never will be. There's no one person with that amount of motivation in the world and it's quickly discovered with your fellow brethren. Instead, it's the sheer desire to never quit. Just never let yourself quit. You can tell yourself that you are and that you're done mentally and make false promises to yourself about quitting, but never admit to failing yourself or the course and never quit. It's how I made it through Ranger School as did many others. So no matter what country you work for or serve in, it's all about the amount of effort and work you put into it.

Finally, you can enlist (not commission) in all four major branches of service without being an American citizen. However, you can not get a security clearance or be placed in candidacy of one of those units until you renounce your citizenship and get an American one. But, military helps out tremendously with that and pays quite a few of the costs on your behalf.

 

 

Sweet guys I appreciate it. Whats the difference between commissioned and enlisted ? And mind explaining what you are referring to in regards to Ireland's Host countries special forces?

 

 

ALSO: I'm really interested and like to use my mentality to my advantage but  any tips or techniques I can train myself do adopt the never quit attitude. I think I have it as it is, maybe you have to be born with it. 

 

Thanks 

Tom.

Edited March 26, 201412 yr by InnermostZero

Good question. I'll can expound on the premise of Commissioning and Enlisting but I don't hold a lot of knowledge of the Irish Special Forces capability except the information that can be discovered on the internet. And, that information is never perfectly accurate except when interpreted from someone with experience or knowledge of the field.

Commissioned members of the United States Armed Forces are those who have been entrusted by the President of the United States to lead and direct personnel and operations while themselves often removed from the fighting. Typically, once you surpass the rank of (Army/Marine Captain or Navy Lieutenant) you're typically far removed from any direct conflict to have operational control of the situation. And those officers within the fight will also be in their own command element on the ground. So, they're typically the ones transmitting the orders but not action-ing the operation itself.

This is where the enlisted service-member comes in. Enlisted service members from all branches in their special forces or direct action capability can until the highest of Enlisted Positions engage the enemy in frequent direct operations. They're the ones kicking in doors, clearing locations, and taking the fight to the enemy. Senior Enlisted members (Junior to Middle grade Non-Commissioned Officers) are typically the ones filling out the majority of the Special Forces echelon. However, they are issued orders by Commissioned Officers who give guidance, tasks, and information related to each specific operation.

In short, (or tl;dr) if you want to kick down doors and fight the "badguy" then go for the enlisted side of the house. If you want to be on the one on the radio issuing orders and leading large groups of personnel, then the direction of Commissioning is the path for you. (Note: Higher Levels of the Non-Commissioned Officers often fill the roles of Commissioned Officers) Finally, the Commissioning of an officer can only be granted to a citizen of the United States and most often to those with a four-year degree from a noted post-secondary institution.

As for Irish Special Forces, I can look up some information when I return to work on official channels. I can say, that I've had no interaction with that nation's host military nor the the need to know of their capabilities until this topic.

Good question. I'll can expound on the premise of Commissioning and Enlisting but I don't hold a lot of knowledge of the Irish Special Forces capability except the information that can be discovered on the internet. And, that information is never perfectly accurate except when interpreted from someone with experience or knowledge of the field.

Commissioned members of the United States Armed Forces are those who have been entrusted by the President of the United States to lead and direct personnel and operations while themselves often removed from the fighting. Typically, once you surpass the rank of (Army/Marine Captain or Navy Lieutenant) you're typically far removed from any direct conflict to have operational control of the situation. And those officers within the fight will also be in their own command element on the ground. So, they're typically the ones transmitting the orders but not action-ing the operation itself.

This is where the enlisted service-member comes in. Enlisted service members from all branches in their special forces or direct action capability can until the highest of Enlisted Positions engage the enemy in frequent direct operations. They're the ones kicking in doors, clearing locations, and taking the fight to the enemy. Senior Enlisted members (Junior to Middle grade Non-Commissioned Officers) are typically the ones filling out the majority of the Special Forces echelon. However, they are issued orders by Commissioned Officers who give guidance, tasks, and information related to each specific operation.

In short, (or tl;dr) if you want to kick down doors and fight the "badguy" then go for the enlisted side of the house. If you want to be on the one on the radio issuing orders and leading large groups of personnel, then the direction of Commissioning is the path for you. (Note: Higher Levels of the Non-Commissioned Officers often fill the roles of Commissioned Officers) Finally, the Commissioning of an officer can only be granted to a citizen of the United States and most often to those with a four-year degree from a noted post-secondary institution.

As for Irish Special Forces, I can look up some information when I return to work on official channels. I can say, that I've had no interaction with that nation's host military nor the the need to know of their capabilities until this topic.

I see! So from what I can tell the enlisted = privates in Irish Army(regular soldier)  ,then Commissioned = Cadets in Irish Army (supervisors) yet still participate in the field 

*sigh*

 

Cut out the side discussion; this has nothing at all to do with the Navy SEALs.

Perez's grammar has even less to do with the topic of this thread than the things that spurred me to write the above post. Posts hidden.

Enlisted = Recruit to Regimental Sergeant Major

 

Commissioned = Officer Cadet to General.

Generally once you hit the rank of about Major (This being Commonwealth standards; as the OC of a Coy is generally a Major), your now known as a "Staff Officer" and are generally the one planning the operation rather than partaking in it.

 

Think of Officers as a "Manager" and the Enlisted Pers as "workers or employees", whereas the SNCO's are generally "advisors".

As for your desire to join Special Forces, It's an incredibly long and arduous journey and one that takes dedication, persistence and a Never Quit attitude. You'll have to be mentally and physically strong (mentally is the biggest part) and it'll take a lot of hard work; although I was never in Special Forces, I've worked amongst them in my time as a Combat Engineer (7 years with the Canadian Army) the majority of them were quite intelligent and were able to think on their feet.

Regardless joining the Military itself is a feat, and just going through basic training is a challenge in itself. My advice, if you are joining the Army, learn a trade in the Army; seeing that your from Ireland and you want to join a foreign unit, I would advise you to join the Irish Defence Force, who knows maybe you might not like the military structure or lifestyle (It is a very different culture and to be quite honest, it's not for a lot of people) or maybe you'll make a career within the Irish Defence Force.

I know to join any Special Forces unit, you'll need to be able to obtain a High Level security clearance (dual citizenship makes it incredibly harder to get one). Check out the Army Ranger Wing within the Irish Defence Force (It's Irelands Counter-Terrorist Unit/Special Forces).

 

As for your question as to how to develop the "Never Quit" attitude, it's just that. Tell yourself that you’re not going to give up, Tell yourself one more km on a run, or one more chin up, one more push-up; keep pushing yourself to be better than what you think you are. Always strive to improve and never stay complacent.

 

 

Edited March 27, 201412 yr by Comm

So, 

 

I'm Tom - 17 years old, Senior in ''High School'' in Ireland and have been playing football since I can remember, here's my story.

 

The last few years I've grown a huge flair for the Navy SEALS. I'm not some rookie 10 year old that likes the guns and action. But my god do I admire the work they do, the risk they live with but one thing I love is probably coming from from my football back-round of training 350 days a year then having those game days a fraction of your life, why do it? Because lets be honest that's what they do every day for them is game-day if they make a mistake they're gone....dead. I am learning daily on how to join what to do, preparation for the application process because lets be honest you'll have to start training in my opinion 5-10 years seriously before you even think about going to a prep school before applying. I've been honored to meet a marine on this site and got such an amazing insight into the US military. Then I'd say I've watched nearly every NAVY SEAL team film's and documentaries and what not so one of my favorite being  ''Lone Survivor'', I've grown a huge interest in former NS Marcus Lutrell and am amazed of his story.

 

 

Anyone have any opinions, information ,advice, stories? Please I'd love to discuss and share things on the topic with people who are passionate or even have experienced/experiencing such military lives.

 

 

Thank You,

Tom.

Hey Tom. I'm Mike I am also looking to become apart of the Naval Special Warfare Community as a Special Boat Operator. I'm 17 and a senior in high school just like you. I plan on after I finish up college since you can't stay in the military forever. In middle school I wanted to be a Recon Marine then my 9th grade year my history teacher suggested that I read the book Lone Survivor and It grabbed my attention so much. That's what made me start to look at NSW. Then I seen act of valor and I was hooked on SWCC. This is from an current active duty SWCC member " Selection was pretty difficult and lasted almost a year. It is similar to Buds training in the aspects of cold wet and tired. So what you see in all the seal selection videos you can expect from sec school. After you graduate you put in a wish list for the team you want to go to. 12 is west coast 22 is the river guys in Mississippi and 20 is easy coast. It's kind of needs of the teams from there." So best of luck to ya Tim. 

0o0o0o kids no fighting listen i was on the NAVY ROTC they teach alot military stuff is good but no one can tell you what to do look for other option like collage to became police or FD or something dont just sign in for the military explorer option firts cuz once you sign that military contract they own your life for good but im not going to get into to much detail is just to much to type but the desicion is your's i my self after seen what i been seen is no use to fight for a country that is not even worth fight for this is my opinion some dont like it o well like i say the desicion is your's is your future

Edited April 11, 201511 yr by J.J Designs