Oh, and one last thing: We aren't all gun-toting rednecks that shoot first and ask about privacy later/never.

 

What is that supposed to mean? Not everyone is a retard.

Oh, and one last thing: We aren't all gun-toting rednecks that shoot first and ask about privacy later/never.

 

Neither are all of us...

This is actually pretty scary stuff, whether i'm Canadian, American, European etc.. the U.S just wants control and that's all it is, it's a beautiful country, but damn.. i'm glad i'm not an American citizen.. there is no freedom anymore.

I feel pretty free....I'm not a slave or in a concentration camp. The problem with the constitution is that it is controlled by the government. They interpret it. Honestly, we're lucky they didn't just rip it up and say, "Fuck all of you, this is a dictatorship now."

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^ that is slowly happening and that's the problem....and the gun totting comment...we have a 2nd amendment to protect us from TYRANNY we love our guns we don't go around shooting people I suggest people do research on history to learn how tyranny starts bit by bit we lose rights until we are under tyranny we still have to fight sopa and the other garbage like ndaa so we can KEEP our freedoms

I'm Canadian, this doesn't concern me.

That's a pretty near-sighted thing to say, dude. The U.S. is one of the most influential countries in the world, which means that if a bill like that passes over here, other countries will start adopting the same ideas too. So yes, it does concern you.

^ that is slowly happening and that's the problem....and the gun totting comment...we have a 2nd amendment to protect us from TYRANNY we love our guns we don't go around shooting people I suggest people do research on history to learn how tyranny starts bit by bit we lose rights until we are under tyranny we still have to fight sopa and the other garbage like ndaa so we can KEEP our freedoms

I love how you say "we" I do not love my gun, I have one but it is for self protection. We are not getting all of our guns taken away, Just a select list, you do not need an AR-15 to protect yourself, I know it's for fun sometimes but go to a shooting range then. Australia got guns banned.....I do not see a them screaming tyranny, they do not have a dictatorship or anything of the sorts stop being paranoid. Not looking for a flame war or argument about this.

I love how you say "we" I do not love my gun, I have one but it is for self protection. We are not getting all of our guns taken away, Just a select list, you do not need an AR-15 to protect yourself, I know it's for fun sometimes but go to a shooting range then. Australia got guns banned.....I do not see a them screaming tyranny, they do not have a dictatorship or anything of the sorts stop being paranoid. Not looking for a flame war or argument about this.

Oddly enough you speak the truth and I agree with you 100%..

I get sick and tired of this. Not because it's being done again, because I've fully come to expect it and I know that it is already being done (this is just "legalizing" it). I get tired because of the constant division. It's not left vs right. It's not pro-gun vs anti-gun. It's not Terrorism vs Anti-terrorism. It is nothing but Government, as a world entity composed of puppets in office and corporations that control them, vs the people. People will always try to gain control over others, and when people get put into political positions they almost always go corrupt for money.

 

Primarily, the thing that pisses me off the most of the hypocrisy from both sides. Liberals in the media went from screaming the Patriot Act was evil under Bush to praising the NSA spying under Obama. Fox and hardcore neocons praised the Patriot Act under Bush as necessary to fight terrorism while screaming about Obama doing it now. The most ironic thing is that it's been done since WW2, with compliance from a majority of represented countries on this forum, including the USA, the UK, Australia, New Zealand and Canada under Operation Echelon, despite both left and right wing people in those countries being in charge. The full scope of this operation is fairly incredible and treasonous. Basically, countries agreed to spy on each others citizens to bypass domestic laws against spying and share any intelligence.

 

To sum it up, we are all already affected by government spying and control, regardless of lines on a map. All this "law" is doing is "legalizing" further control in order to oppress.

 

I love how you say "we" I do not love my gun, I have one but it is for self protection. We are not getting all of our guns taken away, Just a select list, you do not need an AR-15 to protect yourself, I know it's for fun sometimes but go to a shooting range then. Australia got guns banned.....I do not see a them screaming tyranny, they do not have a dictatorship or anything of the sorts stop being paranoid. Not looking for a flame war or argument about this.

I encourage you to read this from an objective point of view: http://www.assaultweapon.info/. The Violence Policy Center got angry they couldn't get handguns banned, so they started claiming AR-15's are evil because they have a few cosmetic differences. Also, it's not a list of guns that would be banned, but a list of approved items that circumvents a right and can be changed to ban anything whenever someone with armed security decides to change it. We don't have our opinions "approved" before we voice them (before someone will try to make the argument that opinions don't kill, every single war in history was caused by dissenting opinions).

 

Also, as a free independent human being capable of making my own decisions regarding my welfare, I should be able to decide what I give up until it is proven through evidence that I personally have harmed people making those decisions. My state as well as my county sheriff's office and many local police departments have already decided that no new federal gun laws will go into effect here, so I have nothing to worry about.