How come the call is considered a failure if I use lethal force against the mugger? Considering the fact that he just committed a felony, is armed, and presumably dangerous, he now falls under the "fleeing felon" doctrine and lethal force is authorized to protect myself and the public. I don't think its fair to say that it is failure simply because it resulted in lethal force... what are we the ACLU now? :rolleyes:

I think it may be because its un-needed force unless your shot at first. I could be wrong though, but thats how I've started thinking of it.

Officers are allowed to fire if they believe an armed suspect is moving to a cover position, which the suspect fleeing would fall under. Hopefully it will be fixed in time for .95

It's not a bug. The text on the bottom of the screen will tell you if he's hostile or not. Usually he runs, in which case, your shooting would be a murder since he is facing away from you and trying to run. Use your taser if you want to stop him from running. If he wishes to attack you, it will say so, and then you can shoot him all you want.

It's not a bug. The text on the bottom of the screen will tell you if he's hostile or not. Usually he runs, in which case, your shooting would be a murder since he is facing away from you and trying to run. Use your taser if you want to stop him from running. If he wishes to attack you, it will say so, and then you can shoot him all you want.

Never said it was a bug. Furthermore it's not murder, just because someone's back is to you does not mean they are no longer a threat. It's all covered by the fleeing felon doctrine. I acknowledge that game wants me to take the less lethal approach, but I don't like how it's called a failure because I choose to protect myself and the public.

Cops are not supposed to be the one's that shoot first. If the criminal is running and you kill him is considered a murder because even if he had his gun with him, he's running. Now if he's running and at one moment he aims at you or at any civilian then you kill him. That's what i think and always do.

Just shoot him in the foot, it's what I do, he usually drops the weapon and falls to the ground if you do so. Enough time to taze and arrest.

Cops are not supposed to be the one's that shoot first. If the criminal is running and you kill him is considered a murder because even if he had his gun with him, he's running. Now if he's running and at one moment he aims at you or at any civilian then you kill him. That's what i think and always do.

It's not murder!!!!!

It's not murder!!!!!

If you shoot first i think it is. Aren't cops supposed to shoot when shot?

If you shoot first i think it is. Aren't cops supposed to shoot when shot?

No, this isn't the Army.

No, this isn't the Army.

Lol, you contradict yourself. Play your game however you want that's what i can say.

Lol, you contradict yourself. Play your game however you want that's what i can say.

What do you mean I contradict myself? Law Enforcements escalation of force is very different than the militarys ROE (fire only when fired upon). The threat of your life or another persons life is just cause for lethal force.

I'm not a law expert. But I don't think a cop would allow a criminal to flee away with a FIREARM in his hand. So he just shoots him. :D

I'm not a law expert. But I don't think a cop would allow a criminal to flee away with a FIREARM in his hand. So he just shoots him. :D

I am and rest assured any armed perp who was just witnessed committing a violent felony would be quickly dispatched.

It's just a video game, let everyone play how he wants. If I want to shoot every suspect in the face that runs a red light it's my thing. That's why there are video games.

The fleeing felon doctrine is probably different in every state, like many other laws. As an example, in Texas if you shoot someone that is facing you, it's considered defense under circumstances. If the person is retreating, with his or her back to you, its murder. But honestly how many COPS episodes have you seen where a cop shoots a fleeing suspect? My answer is zero. And I've seen a lot of them over the years. I watch that show religiously. I've only seen a cop shoot a lone, fleeing gunman/weapon holder twice ever. One was because when an officer spun around the corner chasing a fleeing suspect and the suspect aimed at him so it was a valid use of force. The officer shot him in the leg. He lived. The other time was when an officer in Lowell, Massachusetts was trying to tackle someone to disarm him of a knife, and the suspect charged at him and slashed at him. The officer shot him twice in the chest. He lived.

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The fleeing felon doctrine is probably different in every state, like many other laws. As an example, in Texas if you shoot someone that is facing you, it's considered defense under circumstances. If the person is retreating, with his or her back to you, its murder. But honestly how many COPS episodes have you seen where a cop shoots a fleeing suspect? My answer is zero. And I've seen a lot of them over the years. I watch that show religiously. I've only seen a cop shoot a lone, fleeing gunman/weapon holder twice ever. One was because when an officer spun around the corner chasing a fleeing suspect and the suspect aimed at him so it was a valid use of force. The officer shot him in the leg. He lived. The other time was when an officer in Lowell, Massachusetts was trying to tackle someone to disarm him of a knife, and the suspect charged at him and slashed at him. The officer shot him twice in the chest. He lived.

How many of those fleeing felons were wielding a firearm? I'm not saying that lethal force has to be the only option, I just don't want it to be considered a failure if I choose to use it.

How many of those fleeing felons were wielding a firearm? I'm not saying that lethal force has to be the only option, I just don't want it to be considered a failure if I choose to use it.

Correction. Just saw that that you said armed with a weapon. Just because it doesn't happen in COPS doesn't mean it's not authorized. The Fleeing Felon doctrine is very strict onthe use of lethal force. However this situation (the mugging) allows it.

And I'm not saying the doctrine doesn't exist or isn't correct. It's just likely different in every state and must be rare. Your job as an officer of the law is to protect and server (as dry and generic of a slogan it may be), so if possible, you must preserve lives, even that of the suspect. Pull the trigger when he aims.

And I'm not saying the doctrine doesn't exist or isn't correct. It's just likely different in every state and must be rare. Your job as an officer of the law is to protect and server (as dry and generic of a slogan it may be), so if possible, you must preserve lives, even that of the suspect. Pull the trigger when he aims.

Thanks Sheriff Taylor! The utilitarian paradigm of law enforcement would say that the greater good of the situation is the innocent bystanders who have an amok gunner in their midst, not the gunner himself!