Hi, this is a follow on to my previous topic, after doing some detective work and trying to narrow down what was causing lag spikes in my game.

My question now is, how is LML causing lag spikes? I've tried re-installing it, enabling and disabling mods within it (I only use police tape at the moment) and still stuttering is caused whenever it is loaded (i.e. vfx.dll or version.dll is in my game)

 

Really want to use Police Tape again!

We have had one previous complaint about a performance issue:

 

Performance issues don't really seem to be happening for most users though.

 

However, I note from your previous post that you said that it was working fine a few days ago. I'm assuming you mean it was working fine still, with LML, a few days ago. In that case I would assume anything you've changed from then to now could be causing the problem.

It could be possible that this issue could be caused by overzealous AV scanning, so you may wish to try adding an exemption of your GTA folder or disabling it temporarily and seeing if that has an impact.

 

I will tag @LMS who may be able to assist when he has a moment. I suspect however it may not be possible to troubleshoot this effectively with the amount of mods you have installed in your game, possibly conflicting.

24 minutes ago, Cyan said:

We have had one previous complaint about a performance issue:

 

Performance issues don't really seem to be happening for most users though.

 

However, I note from your previous post that you said that it was working fine a few days ago. I'm assuming you mean it was working fine still, with LML, a few days ago. In that case I would assume anything you've changed from then to now could be causing the problem.

It could be possible that this issue could be caused by overzealous AV scanning, so you may wish to try adding an exemption of your GTA folder or disabling it temporarily and seeing if that has an impact.

 

I will tag @LMS who may be able to assist when he has a moment. I suspect however it may not be possible to troubleshoot this effectively with the amount of mods you have installed in your game, possibly conflicting.

 

Thank you. I have attached my vfs.log just in case it is needed, as I see it was mentioned in the linked topic 

 

EDIT: Please also see the modManager.log file, as I believe it is also important. I'm also using the Palm tree replacement mod but this stuttering happened before it as on my LA setup it was when I first noticed it

 

vfs.log

ModManager.log

Edited July 14, 20205 yr by Double Doppler

Like Cyan said there seem to be very few performance complaints so it could be something else (bad asset for instance). I cannot see anything unusual in your log files, unfortunately. Does this happen in all areas and consistently? Could you please also clarify whether you've had this issue all the time or whether it started recently?

 

LML does use more resources (since it intercepts file requests), however they are minimal compared to the actual file loading. What happens when you have LML present but no OpenIV? 

1 hour ago, LMS said:

Like Cyan said there seem to be very few performance complaints so it could be something else (bad asset for instance). I cannot see anything unusual in your log files, unfortunately. Does this happen in all areas and consistently? Could you please also clarify whether you've had this issue all the time or whether it started recently?

 

LML does use more resources (since it intercepts file requests), however they are minimal compared to the actual file loading. What happens when you have LML present but no OpenIV? 

 

First noticed it when I recorded my latest video (published 12/7/20, recorded the day prior)

 

Interesting you should say that, I disabled OpenIV.asi and the game seemed to run smooth. Where does this lead to?

Edited July 14, 20205 yr by Double Doppler

21 hours ago, Double Doppler said:

 

First noticed it when I recorded my latest video (published 12/7/20, recorded the day prior)

 

Interesting you should say that, I disabled OpenIV.asi and the game seemed to run smooth. Where does this lead to?

 

When LML is present OpenIV unfortunately does a lot of excessive logging (check their logfile) which is probably hurting your performance.

2 hours ago, LMS said:

 

When LML is present OpenIV unfortunately does a lot of excessive logging (check their logfile) which is probably hurting your performance.

Is there any way to stop the logging? 

1 hour ago, Double Doppler said:

Is there any way to stop the logging? 

 

Not without modifying OpenIV I don't think. You might be able to replace most of your OpenIV mods using LML, but for custom RPFs it is still required.

15 hours ago, LMS said:

 

Not without modifying OpenIV I don't think. You might be able to replace most of your OpenIV mods using LML, but for custom RPFs it is still required.

Oh right. I cannot understand why the two have decided to clash all of a sudden (OpenIV and LML) - any possible insight?

They are not clashing per se, OpenIV just has a lot of verbose logging that is unfortunately triggered by how LML loads assets. In most circumstances your disks should be fast enough to sustain the logging, so most people will not notice it.

On 7/16/2020 at 12:45 PM, LMS said:

They are not clashing per se, OpenIV just has a lot of verbose logging that is unfortunately triggered by how LML loads assets. In most circumstances your disks should be fast enough to sustain the logging, so most people will not notice it.

Okay. Any insight to how I could reduce this stuff that’s going on? I’ve tried reinstalling GTA and it didn’t have effect when I put LML and OIV in again

On 7/17/2020 at 1:19 PM, Double Doppler said:

Okay. Any insight to how I could reduce this stuff that’s going on? I’ve tried reinstalling GTA and it didn’t have effect when I put LML and OIV in again

 

Unfortunately, I don't think it can be reduced in any way.

On 7/21/2020 at 12:16 PM, LMS said:

Unfortunately, I don't think it can be reduced in any way.

 

I wonder if you might be able to symlink openiv.log to nul: https://stackoverflow.com/a/50652314

8 minutes ago, PNWParksFan said:

 

I wonder if you might be able to symlink openiv.log to nul: https://stackoverflow.com/a/50652314

 

Right, you could also just patch their logging code, but I was more saying there is no "option" for LML currently to disable it.

same issue with me, and to test it I redownloaded a fresh copy from Rockstar, installed LSPDFR and then added the LML and Coastal Callouts, instant lag spikes/stuttering, removed the Version.DLL file and all was fine, put it back and same thing occured, 

 

For now I remove the Version.dll file when I want to play LSPDFR as normal, but have to put it back when I play Coastal Callouts and live with the lag

I've got rid of my lag.... just have costal callouts in a seperate setup... no other plugins appart from sTP andUB... 

 

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Edited June 14, 20214 yr by Hex Spyderz