New to LSPDFR. Looking through plugins and what not, there seems to be some functions that bleed over between 'Stop the Ped' and 'Arrest Manager'. I'm curious about which one should I download. Does one have better compatibility with other mods/plugins? Maybe someone could provide Pros/Cons of each? 

 

Thanks!

I don't think Arrest manager is even updated. Stop the ped is one of the best plugins to have. Originally it worked alongside many other plugins to create immersion but it does almost everything you want it to without the use of other plugins. The pros and cons are too much to list but stop the ped is a necessity to the game if you ask me.

2 hours ago, Bluman said:

I don't think Arrest manager is even updated. Stop the ped is one of the best plugins to have. Originally it worked alongside many other plugins to create immersion but it does almost everything you want it to without the use of other plugins. The pros and cons are too much to list but stop the ped is a necessity to the game if you ask me.

Thanks, I appreciate the insight! Would you suggest any other plugins that work well with it to increase immersion or is it pretty much all in one?

3 hours ago, Apolloivory said:

Thanks, I appreciate the insight! Would you suggest any other plugins that work well with it to increase immersion or is it pretty much all in one?

 

Sure, here's most of the mods I have installed. The ones with a red dot beside them are ones that add immersion to the game, they're all pretty self explanatory.

 

Edited June 14, 20205 yr by Bluman

Use Arrest Manager.

 

Easy to use, not bloated with useless features and doesn't bother you every 2 seconds with online updates.

19 hours ago, Apolloivory said:

New to LSPDFR. Looking through plugins and what not, there seems to be some functions that bleed over between 'Stop the Ped' and 'Arrest Manager'. I'm curious about which one should I download. Does one have better compatibility with other mods/plugins? Maybe someone could provide Pros/Cons of each? 

 

Thanks!

As Bluman said, it comes down to the fact that Arrest Manager isnt updated anymore, and StopThePed is having ongoing updates. Arrest Manager was amazing and I used to use it all the time, but since Albo retired, I have moved on to one that is more reliable. Despite what the person said above about the Online updates, they are easy to overlook when the content within StopThePed has a lot of depth and can create many roleplay situations.

1 hour ago, TheBunk said:

Use Arrest Manager.

 

Easy to use, not bloated with useless features and doesn't bother you every 2 seconds with online updates.

 

 

If you think STP has "useless" features, then you're using STP wrong and not getting the full experience of his mods or LSPDFR.  Myself and many others use every feature STP has to offer and it greatly enhances our game.  I think you need to have another look at the features list of STP, because you're missing out.

 

Not sure where you get "bother you every 2 seconds", because that's far off the beaten path.  Bejoljo's mods are required to be up to date and online only for the best functionality between them.  I really don't understand why people have such an issue with this.  I do feel bad for people who might be on bad connections, but if their connection is that bad they can't play with Bejoljo's mods, chances are they can't stream/view any form of media, so it's not Bejoljo's fault or exclusive to him.

9 hours ago, Bluman said:

 

Sure, here's most of the mods I have installed. The ones with a red dot beside them are ones that add immersion to the game, they're all pretty self explanatory.

 

Thank you so much, this helps a lot!

5 hours ago, UnknownBastion said:

As Bluman said, it comes down to the fact that Arrest Manager isnt updated anymore, and StopThePed is having ongoing updates. Arrest Manager was amazing and I used to use it all the time, but since Albo retired, I have moved on to one that is more reliable. Despite what the person said above about the Online updates, they are easy to overlook when the content within StopThePed has a lot of depth and can create many roleplay situations.

Great insight, I appreciate it!

4 hours ago, Apolloivory said:

Great insight, I appreciate it!

Anytime! 🙂

Use stop the ped, Arrest Manager isn't being updated anymore and it can probably screw up your game because its an old plugin.

Use stop the ped and all other bejoijo plugins, they perform way better than all of albo's in my opinion. Plus he isnt really updating them anymore whereas bejoijo is constantly updating.

I really haven't got any problems with STP and Arrest Manager. All TOW, Coroner and transport is handled by AM and disabled in STP. I also like TOW service in AM more then in STP. But I also have Traffic Policer and I'm not really sure what does what anymore. 

If ped resisting arrest, one plugin makes him give up by aiming and holding E but in my experiences, it isn't reliable. Other plugins makes them give up with aiming and mashing E, that works pretty well and with nicer animation. 

26 minutes ago, Tejk said:

I really haven't got any problems with STP and Arrest Manager. All TOW, Coroner and transport is handled by AM and disabled in STP. I also like TOW service in AM more then in STP. But I also have Traffic Policer and I'm not really sure what does what anymore. 

If ped resisting arrest, one plugin makes him give up by aiming and holding E but in my experiences, it isn't reliable. Other plugins makes them give up with aiming and mashing E, that works pretty well and with nicer animation. 

 

The tow feature in both mods is basically the same.  It's strongly advised to remove AM, there is no point in having it.  It's outdated and takes up more fps than needed.  Aside from that, both STP and AM have the same arrest feature, it makes no sense to have two separate mods installed that do the same thing.

So, without AM, I can press 8 to call transport, 0 to get jail waypoing and arrest peds on run with button mash? I thought that was all AM. 

On 6/14/2020 at 10:29 PM, TheBunk said:

Use Arrest Manager.

 

Easy to use, not bloated with useless features and doesn't bother you every 2 seconds with online updates.

Well thats not fair assuming Arrest Manager isnt being updated anymore. It isnt going to bother you since theres nothing to be done. Theres a reason why Albo stopped. He understood Bejoijo was giving far more compacted and necessary mods. Albo was a god and will be in our fictional Hall of Fame, but its time to understand most of his mods, if not all, are outdated. 

STP is superior in the most obvious way. Arrest manager has no more use in today's LSPDFR. Performance will take a hit for almost no gain. You can see that by the fact some mods like Grammar Police uses Bejoijo's backup system and not Albo's.

On 7/1/2020 at 4:34 PM, Tejk said:

So, without AM, I can press 8 to call transport, 0 to get jail waypoing and arrest peds on run with button mash? I thought that was all AM. 

No but you can press G and do that.

Albo's mods were great but for me it would eventually crash the game just do to his mods being outdated, plus new mods that are up to date and are in some cases better. STP allows for more in depth investigations and realism. But he did have some features that are nice to have like fixing bad traffic stops by AI but yet again his mods cause problems in the long run due to how old they are.

8 hours ago, iMalcolm27 said:

Well thats not fair assuming Arrest Manager isnt being updated anymore. It isnt going to bother you since theres nothing to be done. Theres a reason why Albo stopped. He understood Bejoijo was giving far more compacted and necessary mods. Albo was a god and will be in our fictional Hall of Fame, but its time to understand most of his mods, if not all, are outdated. 

STP is superior in the most obvious way. Arrest manager has no more use in today's LSPDFR. Performance will take a hit for almost no gain. You can see that by the fact some mods like Grammar Police uses Bejoijo's backup system and not Albo's.

 

Yes unfortunately albo left the community and his mods aren't being updated but it doesn't really matter, people are still using outdated mods, hell, the whole GTA 4 section in this site is outdated mods yet people still use Abraxas and Braveheart's mods. Albo's stuff stood the test of time, gave simple and efficient tools for the community without complicating things for users. I don't like Bejoljo's mods since they require internet connection to work, mine is unstable so is a lot of other players but he wouldn't fix it based on the fact that "iT HeLpS WiTh TrOubLeShooTiNG" which is just bullshit. People have been fixing issues with crash reports since modding was a thing, you don't need constant surveillance to be "efficient". 

 

STP is bloated with useless stuff, i liked some new features it introduced especially when it comes to managing scenes n stuff but it keeps getting updated with a lot of stuff that i ain't really gonna use and conflicts with other mods. Arrest manager is simple and efficient, provides me with a no-bullshit prison transport and that's just what i need. 

 

And really, the thing i hate most about some new mods, is that they depend on other mods to work. This is just lazy developing and makes the game slower and more prone to crash by creating layers of mods on top of mods. A mod for a mod for a mod for GTA V, that's honestly just a recipe for my game to crash so i pass in most cases.

 

9 hours ago, TheBunk said:

 

Yes unfortunately albo left the community and his mods aren't being updated but it doesn't really matter, people are still using outdated mods, hell, the whole GTA 4 section in this site is outdated mods yet people still use Abraxas and Braveheart's mods. Albo's stuff stood the test of time, gave simple and efficient tools for the community without complicating things for users. I don't like Bejoljo's mods since they require internet connection to work, mine is unstable so is a lot of other players but he wouldn't fix it based on the fact that "iT HeLpS WiTh TrOubLeShooTiNG" which is just bullshit. People have been fixing issues with crash reports since modding was a thing, you don't need constant surveillance to be "efficient". 

 

STP is bloated with useless stuff, i liked some new features it introduced especially when it comes to managing scenes n stuff but it keeps getting updated with a lot of stuff that i ain't really gonna use and conflicts with other mods. Arrest manager is simple and efficient, provides me with a no-bullshit prison transport and that's just what i need. 

 

And really, the thing i hate most about some new mods, is that they depend on other mods to work. This is just lazy developing and makes the game slower and more prone to crash by creating layers of mods on top of mods. A mod for a mod for a mod for GTA V, that's honestly just a recipe for my game to crash so i pass in most cases.

 

 

Forced online has nothing to do with helping to troubleshoot (to my knowledge, anyway).  Online only can be a pain, but is is required for better synchronization between his mods.  I don't know where you're getting the "constant surveillance", but none of that is going on.  If you want surveillance, go to Chill Callouts where the dev collects your machine ID. 

 

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STP is bloated with useless stuff,

 

This sounded familiar, and sure enough, I already replied to you.  Since you chose to ignore me since you know I'm right, I'll repeat it for you.  If you think STP has "useless" features, then you're using STP wrong and not getting the full experience of his mods or LSPDFR.  Myself and many others use every feature STP has to offer and it greatly enhances our game.  I think you need to have another look at the features list of STP, because you're missing out.

 

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but it keeps getting updated with a lot of stuff that i ain't really gonna use and conflicts with other mods.

 

If you're not gonna use the stuff being added to STP, then you clearly have no idea how to use said features.  Most, if not everything added to STP gets used by people.  Why?  Because Bejoljo doesn't add useless shit no one cares for.  Additionally, Bejoljo's mods only conflict if those mods have the exact same functionality.  You have 2 mods installed that do the same thing, not the author's fault, it's yours for having both installed at the same time.

 

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Arrest manager is simple and efficient, provides me with a no-bullshit prison transport and that's just what i need.

 

It also forces you to install other mods, aka  police smart radio, the thing you said you hated so much (when a plugin depends on another).  STP has a no bullshit prisoner transport system and it's lightweight.  Albo's mods have always been resource intensive,  it's even worse now that they are outdated.

 

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And really, the thing i hate most about some new mods, is that they depend on other mods to work. This is just lazy developing and makes the game slower and more prone to crash by creating layers of mods on top of mods. A mod for a mod for a mod for GTA V, that's honestly just a recipe for my game to crash so i pass in most cases.

 

Your entire argument is invalid, because this is literally what Bejoljo's mods aim to fix, mod on mod on mod.  Why do you think his mods are jam packed with features? So you don't need 20 separate plugins. 

 

I used to use Albo's stuff as well and we all appreciate what he did, but you need to get off of this high horse of "fuck all the new mods, old ones only".  You're only hurting yourself by refusing to let go of outdated stuff and attacking the new mods simply because you don't like change.  Bejoljo has done nothing but try to help improve the community, and he is very active with other developers and makes sure if they need help, he provides it.

Edited July 3, 20205 yr by Reddington