Horrible News again:

Terrorist attack against a Mosque in Sinai Region:

Where are the Islam Hater who says Islam is Terror or Cancer? The Terrorist killed Muslims like in a Mosque attack in Northern Nigeria

 

https://www.google.de/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/11/24/africa/egypt-sinai-mosque-attack/index.html

 

People blaming muslims for all the wrongs in the world are strangely mute after that event. Hmm, I wonder why...

1 hour ago, Hystery said:

People blaming muslims for all the wrongs in the world are strangely mute after that event. Hmm, I wonder why...

Yes you're right, it's getting be annoying with this Anti Islam Propaganda bullshit.

2 hours ago, Hystery said:

People blaming muslims for all the wrongs in the world are strangely mute after that event. Hmm, I wonder why...

Because we're tired of presenting facts and evidence against the religion and getting the same silence from those that support the religion.

Spoiler

http://news.gallup.com/poll/157082/islamophobia-understanding-anti-muslim-sentiment-west.aspx

http://news.gallup.com/poll/125312/Religious-Prejudice-Stronger-Against-Muslims.aspx

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/08/muslims-us-islam-islamophobia-data-polls

 

 

 

 

Edited November 26, 20178 yr by TheDivineHustle

Those graphs show what people think, not reality. It's worth literally nothing, and certainly isn't fact. Besides, unrelated to the fact that here, it was muslims targeted, and somehow no one is crying over their deaths even though they were human beings like you and me, unlike when people die in other terrorist attacks, which shows the double standards and hypocrisy in this world.

Edited November 27, 20178 yr by Hystery

7 minutes ago, Hystery said:

Those graphs show what people think, not reality. It's worth literally nothing, and certainly isn't fact. Besides, unrelated to the fact that here, it was muslims targeted, and somehow no one is crying over their deaths even though they were human beings like you and me, unlike when people die in other terrorist attacks, which shows the double standards and hypocrisy in this world.

Lmfao, i wonder if how many infidels they interrogated to get those numbers on that graph. That graph is so BS.

19 minutes ago, Hystery said:

Those graphs show what people think, not reality. It's worth literally nothing, and certainly isn't fact. Besides, unrelated to the fact that here, it was muslims targeted, and somehow no one is crying over their deaths even though they were human beings like you and me, unlike when people die in other terrorist attacks, which shows the double standards and hypocrisy in this world.

I'd say there was no recognition because it happened in Egypt, not because the victims were Muslim. I'm going to be brutally honest here: People in the developed world don't give a damn about what happens overseas. No one does. You don't, I don't, no one. Why do I say that? Are you going to lose sleep tonight over this? Are you going to now actively advocate to stop this? Are you donating to different organizations that try to prevent this from happening? Are you even going to remember this event in a few weeks? I'd bet that all or most of your answers are "no."

 

I don't have any issue with the people, I have an issue with the ideaology. 

10 minutes ago, ModHD said:

Lmfao, i wonder if how many infidels they interrogated to get those numbers on that graph. That graph is so BS.

Gallup is a relatively accredited statistics gathering domain. Unless you can provide a better source, of course. 

 

I dont want to get us into trouble. I'll drop the discussion here. 

Edited November 27, 20178 yr by TheDivineHustle

Just now, TheDivineHustle said:

I'd say there was no recognition because it happened in Egypt, not because the victims were Muslim. I'm going to be brutally honest here: People in the developed world don't give a damn about what happens overseas. No one does. You don't, I don't, no one. Why do I say that? Are you going to lose sleep tonight over this? Are you going to now actively advocate to stop this? Are you donating to different organizations that try to prevent this from happening? Are you even going to remember this event in a few weeks? I'd bet that all or most of your answers are "no."

 

I don't have any issue with the people, I have an issue with the ideaology. 

Gallup is a relatively accredited statistics gathering domain. Unless you can provide a better source, of course. 

Your right about that. Ill forget about this after a few hours.

 

BUT that graph just looks like baloney. Im not interested in what MOOOOOslems think. They human, im human, fuck it.

On 26/11/2017 at 12:31 PM, TheDivineHustle said:

Because we're tired of presenting facts and evidence against the religion and getting the same silence from those that support the religion.

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http://news.gallup.com/poll/157082/islamophobia-understanding-anti-muslim-sentiment-west.aspx

http://news.gallup.com/poll/125312/Religious-Prejudice-Stronger-Against-Muslims.aspx

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/08/muslims-us-islam-islamophobia-data-polls

 

 

 

 

You are the issue.  Islam is not a religion of violence.  To say so would show a lack of understanding of the Holy Qu´ran.  Have you read it?

Edited March 16, 20188 yr by CathbolBagel

14 minutes ago, CathbolBagel said:

You are the issue.  Islam is not a religion of violence.  To say so would show a lack of understanding of the Holy Qu´ran.  Have you read it?

That statement is the complete opposite of the truth, and I really shouldn't be getting into this discussion, but oh well.

5 hours ago, CathbolBagel said:

You are the issue.  Islam is not a religion of violence.  To say so would show a lack of understanding of the Holy Qu´ran.  Have you read it?

Have you read it?

 

He is not the issue, the issue is the vast amount of radicals that are sworn to this religion and would do harm to anyone that would oppose it.  Do not get me wrong, there is a extremely large amount of Muslims that are peaceful, but there is an extremely large amout of Muslims that are not.  

 

It is the radical portion that people do not like.  That portion should be destroyed.

Edited March 16, 20188 yr by ToeBius

5 hours ago, CathbolBagel said:

You are the issue.  Islam is not a religion of violence.  To say so would show a lack of understanding of the Holy Qu´ran.  Have you read it?

No, Islam is the issue. I'm just a proud American sitting behind a computer screen providing facts and statistics that you (evidently) couldn't find yourself. I don't have a problem with the people, I have a problem with the ideology.

 

I haven't read the entire Qu'ran because I was completely appalled at what was written inside of it. Statistically speaking, those that show less prejudice towards Islam tend to know less about Islam. As they become more educated on Islam, they begin to be more unfavorable of it. Funny how that works, huh.

Edited March 16, 20188 yr by TheDivineHustle

44 minutes ago, ToeBius said:

Have you read it?

 

He is not the issue, the issue is the vast amount of radicals that are sworn to this religion and would do harm to anyone that would oppose it.  Do not get me wrong, there is a extremely large amount of Muslims that are peaceful, but there is an extremely large amout of Muslims that are not.  

 

It is the radical portion that people do not like.  That portion should be destroyed.

I don't think anyone disagree's with that statement that radicals should be eliminated. The problem is that people take that problem and blame it on the entirety of a religion, such as the roughly 1.8 billion Muslims being blamed for acts undertaken in the name of ISIS, an organisation with the strength estimated at 100,000. I'm sure people wouldn't call for the banning and slaughter of all Christians if 100,000 began killing people even though the religion as a whole has an estimated 2.8 billion 'believers' - pretty hypocritical if you ask me.
 

7 minutes ago, TheDivineHustle said:

No, Islam is the issue. I'm just a proud American sitting behind a computer screen providing facts and statistics that you (evidently) couldn't find yourself.

 

I haven't read the entire Qu'ran because I was completely appalled at what was written inside of it. Statistically speaking, those that show less prejudice towards Islam tend to know less about Islam. As they become more educated on Islam, they begin to be more unfavorable towards it. Funny how that works huh.

Islam isn't the issue. You shouldn't have a problem with a religion of 1.8 billion people because of the actions of the estimated 100,000 people who use that as a reason to partake in violence under it's name, and I say partake in violence because barely half of them understand the Qu'ran nor 'religiously' abide by it.

Just now, Ben said:

Islam isn't the issue. You shouldn't have a problem with a religion of 1.8 billion people because of the actions of the estimated 100,000 people who use that as a reason to partake in violence under it's name, and I say partake in violence because barely half of them understand the Qu'ran nor 'religiously' abide by it.

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Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity."

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing..."

 

Muslims are commanded to slaughter the non-believers. Just because someone isn't actively killing others doesn't mean that they don't silently agree with those that are. ISIS is only doing what they're being commanded to do.

https://youtu.be/VfQb4JHaxos

 

Can you tell me the portion about peace that this Intel's? 

 

Chechnya has some good examples of what the religion is like.

So does Sadi Arabia.

 

If you are for human rights, you should be against this religions teachings.

 

You can say what you want about Christians but they are not known to do hanis act's of evil.  If a Christian does do a act of evil then they are condemned.

 

47 minutes ago, TheDivineHustle said:

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity."

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing..."

 

Muslims are commanded to slaughter the non-believers. Just because someone isn't actively killing others doesn't mean that they don't silently agree with those that are. ISIS is only doing what they're being commanded to do.

 

I never said that Islam in my opinion wasn't a particularly nice religion, not something I believe in. The quotes above though do not prove anything, the matter of the fact is that the large amounts of Muslims do not agree nor support violence against 'non-believers' it's also worth nothing that 2:191-193 relates to killing those who have oppressed you and taken your land and that 8:65 relates to soldiers being strong in combat. 

The matter here is that of the 1.8 billion Muslim's you'll find less then 1% believe in, support or partake in acts of violence against people whom do not believe in Allah or the teachings of the Qu'ran. I think this might be of some interest, a Stack Exchange topic specifically relating to the killing of  non-believers/infidels:

 https://islam.stackexchange.com/questions/7421/does-the-quran-urge-persecution-of-the-infidel

 

18 minutes ago, ToeBius said:

https://youtu.be/VfQb4JHaxos

 

Can you tell me the portion about peace that this Intel's? 

 

Chechnya has some good examples of what the religion is like.

So does Sadi Arabia.

 

If you are for human rights, you should be against this religions teachings.

 

You can say what you want about Christians but they are not known to do hanis act's of evil.  If a Christian does do a act of evil then they are condemned.

 

If we are for Human Rights - is this the pick and choose version. Article 25 of the Universal Declarations of Human Rights states

Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.

 

Yet the CDC has statistics from 2016 stating that 4.4% of Americans failed to obtain needed medical car due to cost. I guess based on your logic I should be 'against' the United States due to it failing to provide an adequate standard of living as required by the Human Rights Declarations, since I believe in Human Rights.

35 minutes ago, TheDivineHustle said:

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity."

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing..."

 

Muslims are commanded to slaughter the non-believers. Just because someone isn't actively killing others doesn't mean that they don't silently agree with those that are. ISIS is only doing what they're being commanded to do.

 

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

 

 

1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.  Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you.  You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery.  And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.(Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden.  When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

 

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.(2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

 

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.  In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully.  If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.  Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it.  Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God.  That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt.  Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.  Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.  He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors.  “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

 

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, “You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord.”  When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.(Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

 

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death.  Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

 

“If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

 

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death.(Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

 

All those come from the Bible. They're commanded to slaughter non-believers, gays, etc. Does that mean religions using the Bible as their holy book have their ideology flawed and should be eradicated? Should I keep going or do you catch the drift? Stop shouting "QURAN!" everytime a discussion is about religion and its adepts, a religion is much more than a thousands years old book. 

19 minutes ago, Ben said:

 

I never said that Islam in my opinion wasn't a particularly nice religion, not something I believe in. The quotes above though do not prove anything, the matter of the fact is that the large amounts of Muslims do not agree nor support violence against 'non-believers' it's also worth nothing that 2:191-193 relates to killing those who have oppressed you and taken your land and that 8:65 relates to soldiers being strong in combat. 

The matter here is that of the 1.8 billion Muslim's you'll find less then 1% believe in, support or partake in acts of violence against people whom do not believe in Allah or the teachings of the Qu'ran. I think this might be of some interest, a Stack Exchange topic specifically relating to the killing of  non-believers/infidels:

 https://islam.stackexchange.com/questions/7421/does-the-quran-urge-persecution-of-the-infidel

 

If we are for Human Rights - is this the pick and choose version. Article 25 of the Universal Declarations of Human Rights states

Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.

 

Yet the CDC has statistics from 2016 stating that 4.4% of Americans failed to obtain needed medical car due to cost. I guess based on your logic I should be 'against' the United States, as I believe in Human Rights. 

  Those are not right's, those are services that someone else must privide by either being payed for, or forced to provide.

 

You talk about health care, well ill tell you this, in 2007 my health care was $75.00 and today (after the afordible care act) they are wanting $500.00 a month, and I have no medical issues, they want over $1,000 for my wife.  I don't have insurance because of the government mandate.  I would rather be fined $1,200 a year than pay that amout for health care.  Healthcare is not a right, it is a service that someone else must provide.

4 minutes ago, ToeBius said:

  Those are not right's, those are services that someone else must privide by either being payed for, or forced to provide.

 

You talk about health care, well ill tell you this, in 2007 my health care was $75.00 and today (after the afordible care act) they are wanting $500.00 a month, and I have no medical issues, they want over $1,000 for my wife.  I don't have insurance because of the government mandate.  I would rather be fined $1,200 a year than pay that amout for health care.  Healthcare is not a right, it is a service that someone else must provide.

You have just countered the exact declaration of Human Rights with an opinion, regardless of your opinion on the matter, in the eyes of the United Nations and the Declarations of Human Rights, it is a right that you be able to access Health Care - it doesn't say that you can't still have insurance, but those who are unable to afford Health Care are required to receive it. 

16 minutes ago, Ben said:

You have just countered the exact declaration of Human Rights with an opinion, regardless of your opinion on the matter, in the eyes of the United Nations and the Declarations of Human Rights, it is a right that you be able to access Health Care - it doesn't say that you can't still have insurance, but those who are unable to afford Health Care are required to receive it. 

Actually those are not human right's, those are legal right's.  Human right's are natural, legal right's are man made.  It was not an opinion, that I made, but a fact.  Law's may say one thing, but the definition of it is what matters. 

 

And in the U.S. everyone can legally recive healthcare and cannot be denied that.