I know its been a while since the crown victoria was around, but might aswell share this with ya'll! 

https://www.change.org/p/ford-motor-co-bring-back-the-ford-crown-victoria-police-interceptor

 

Sign it! 

Edited May 2, 20178 yr by LAPDOfficerBraddock
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Yeah, no chance. 

Lol. Sorry, but this is never going to happen. They may bring the name back, but it will be uni-body, FWD or AWD, and powered by either a 4 cylinder or 6 cylinder turbocharged engine.  Not the car we're all familiar with.  I'd expect pigs to fly before Ford ever brings the old Crown Victoria back. 

 

The sedan segment has been suffering in the first place, large SUV's and crossovers are killing sedans. Even the Ford Taurus is on the edge of being discontinued. I don't mean to crush your dreams, but I highly doubt they'd ever bring it back other than the nameplate itself.  I also highly doubt they'd listen to an online petition. 

 

 

This is cringy as fuck.

why? are you a cop?

Some petition on the internet isn't going to bring back a thirty year old car. Your best bet is to go to a car museum where they have old police cars you can look at.

Edited May 3, 20178 yr by TheSandwichStealer

CVPI? Gone?

<Add in 2 Exploders and you have the entire LASD Fleet

Since when?

Jesus christ, you can chill the hell out.

 

Why do you have to say stuff like that? Just be a human being..

2 hours ago, Original Light said:

Lol. Sorry, but this is never going to happen. They may bring the name back, but it will be uni-body, FWD or AWD, and powered by either a 4 cylinder or 6 cylinder turbocharged engine.  Not the car we're all familiar with.  I'd expect pigs to fly before Ford ever brings the old Crown Victoria back. 

 

The sedan segment has been suffering in the first place, large SUV's and crossovers are killing sedans. Even the Ford Taurus is on the edge of being discontinued. I don't mean to crush your dreams, but I highly doubt they'd ever bring it back other than the nameplate itself.  I also highly doubt they'd listen to an online petition. 

 

 

I get it, I found this petition, and was like "maybe I should share it." I know that it will not be V8 or something, but might aswell, but most people that have been replying are being real douche bags, and just makes me feel unwelcome here...its sad.

2 hours ago, LAPDOfficerBraddock said:

Jesus christ, you can chill the hell out.

 

Why do you have to say stuff like that? Just be a human being..

I get it, I found this petition, and was like "maybe I should share it." I know that it will not be V8 or something, but might aswell, but most people that have been replying are being real douche bags, and just makes me feel unwelcome here...its sad.

 

 Buddy, I'm sure they're not intentionally trying to be rude. But, about every 6 months one of these topics pops up on this site. We all see it, and we're like "Oh god, not another one of these". We all love Crown Victoria's here (well, at least most of us), in fact we're probably one of the largest fan bases next to Crownvic.net (some of us are even members on there), but we're just telling the truth. The truth is harsh, and it isn't always what we want to hear.  The sarcasm from some people could have been toned down a bit, even myself for that matter, and I apologize.

 

Nothing is impossible, after all, Dodge is still pushing out Chargers with 707 HP 6.1 Liter V8 engines. But, what we're trying to say is, it's highly unlikely.  

 

You're more than welcome here, and we don't want anyone to feel unwelcome. 

 

 

3 hours ago, TheSandwichStealer said:

Some petition on the internet isn't going to bring back a thirty year old car.

Going on 40 years, now :D

The crazy thing is you can take the frame off of a 1979 Crown Victoria and put it on a 2011 Crown Victoria with very few adjustments.  Most of the body panels from a 1992 will fit on a 2011.  The car was ancient, and by 2011, the only things modern on the car were the steering wheel, the gauge cluster, the recessed window switches, and the headrests. But that's also why we love it. 

I could never understand why in a head-on collision a frame car is safe. I mean, the engine would slide right back and crush your legs and whatnot, it has no other room to go, right?

5 hours ago, Hastings said:

I could never understand why in a head-on collision a frame car is safe. I mean, the engine would slide right back and crush your legs and whatnot, it has no other room to go, right?

 

If the car is made out of sand, maybe. The Crown Victoria is an extremely safe car, other than the exploding fuel tanks (which was a rare issue and was fixed after 2003). I believe it received mostly 5 star crash ratings. It's still up there in safety even with some of today's cars.

 

What you're referring to was more common with the 1940s-1960's body on frame vehicles. They had no crumple zones and were about as safe as driving in a tin can. 

46 minutes ago, Original Light said:

 

If the car is made out of sand, maybe. The Crown Victoria is an extremely safe car, other than the exploding fuel tanks (which was a rare issue and was fixed after 2003). I believe it received mostly 5 star crash ratings. It's still up there in safety even with some of today's cars.

 

NHTSA seems to only partially rate each model year (e.g. 2011 is only rated for rollovers). IIHS says it has good performance on front crashes but only mediocre on side crashes (these are models with side airbags; the ones without did worse, but that's obviously not a fair comparison). It turns out the body-on-frame is less of an issue than I had thought; I was under the impression it meant there wasn't much of a crumple zone, but I suppose that just because it doesn't crumple in a minor impact doesn't mean it won't in a major crash.

 

As for the nameplate, I'd be surprised if Ford didn't eventually bring it back. They might even try something inspired by the CV's styling (but looking appropriate to whatever year they bring it back), with a clearly distinguished hood section, cabin section, and trunk section. But yeah, they're never bringing back the CVPI as it was until 2011, because cars have moved on. Consumers stopped wanting it a while ago, which is why it ended its life with Ford not selling it to anyone but fleet buyers. Fleet buyers were also no longer buying enough to justify keeping it going. Ford didn't cancel it for kicks; they discontinued it because it was no longer profitable.

I second the above, turns out my perception of the body-on-frame construction was not quite correct and mostly based on Internet articles comparing frame to modern uni-body (am I using the term correctly) vehicles.

 

@Original Light, you mind telling a bit about controlling this thing on roads on high speeds compared to more modern vehicles? I've already established I had misunderstood the safety, what about controllability?

Yeah, it still had to meet modern safety standards, and was heavily revamped in 2003.  

 

Either way, almost most all pickup trucks and full sized SUV's are still body on frame, and for a reason. They wouldn't be allowed if body on frame wasn't safe. 

@Hastings It has rack and pinion steering, which was added in 2003. The CVPI (not the civilian model) handles as well as any modern Toyota Camry, if not better, due to its firm suspension. I've owned a Crown Vic, and now I own a 2011 Buick Lacrosse. And I can tell you the CV handled better.  You'd just have to drive one and see for yourself. The grandpa Crown Victoria LX's on the other hand, handle like sofas on wheels. 

Cops routinely drive CVPI's at 120+ MPH without any problems whatsoever. 

 

Simply put, the car was outdated - but not incedibly outdated. It's still a good car, and still holds up to some modern cars.  I've worked on lots of Crown Victoria's, and I've driven lots of different cars, so I'm just telling you my perspective. 

No thanks. I'd like to stick to the Ford Explorers :DDDDD

28 minutes ago, tanu1215 said:

No thanks. I'd like to stick to the Ford Explorers :DDDDD

 

I like the Taurus much better, I wish it was used more. The Explorers are just... too soccer-mom-like for me. 

 

 

@Original Light, you almost made me buy this thing (sure looks not too expensive at first glance).

 

Out of curiosity, how high would you estimate the cost of bringing a retired CVPI back to life? The cost would sure be drastically different in my country but at least I'll get an understanding.

Edited May 4, 20178 yr by Hastings

@Hastings You can get a decent one with 95,000 miles for about $6400.

 

http://www.iascars.com/2011-Ford-CrownVictoria/Used-Car/WBridgewater-MA/7314249/Details.aspx

 

And assuming you go through it maintenance wise, change all the fluids, and make sure it's up to snuff - you can probably drive it for another 200,000 miles before you encounter anything major.  It's a low compression, cast iron V8 engine.  What does that mean? It can last significantly longer than any other modern engine that's high compression and uses aluminum blocks (which is basically every new engine) -- with routine maintenance. My neighbor runs a livery service with his Lincoln Town Cars (same car, difference badge) and he has 600,000 original miles on one of his cars.  The only thing he's ever had to replace was the alternator, spark plugs, and engine oil. 

These cars are basically F-150's with a trunk, they're mechanically identical to the 1996-2009 trucks equipped with the 2v 4.6, and are mechanically identical to the 1997-2014 Ford E-Series van with the 2v 4.6.