I know somebody is eventually going to bring this up. But what's everybody's opinion on a state of modding in Mafia III? I'd assume there will be simple mods like in Mafia II, but I mean in a more long stretch. Style like GTA modding. Police mods, car mods, weapon mods, scripts. All that good stuff. Anybody going to give it a try?

If we get the proper tools, like a Zmodeler plugin or Zmodeler type editing for M3, holy crap, I'd throw stuff out like mad.

Edited October 8, 20169 yr by Lundy

Looks like the files aren't too difficult to understand. It's a cool game too!

The port is complete wack though, Ive heard. So if modding gets going for that game we might have another GTA 4.

25 minutes ago, S0berDrunk said:

The port is complete wack though, Ive heard. So if modding gets going for that game we might have another GTA 4.

What's wrong with the port? Only thing I've heard of is the FPS lock. Mafia III is a fine port, I've only had one crash out of the 10+ hours I've played it.

Modding from 3 wold cool but i think it must be are realitic. It not can be that later drive a 2002 crown vic on this With the FPS i heard that is now not only lock of 30 FPS now its unlocked for unlimited. But i not know it is true.

1 hour ago, solo said:

Modding from 3 wold cool but i think it must be are realitic. It not can be that later drive a 2002 crown vic on this With the FPS i heard that is now not only lock of 30 FPS now its unlocked for unlimited. But i not know it is true.

Yep. The game was just updated and comes with FPS options. You can set it to 30, 60, or unlimited.

As for the cars, I don't think it'd be a problem for me. :D I have plenty of cars that would fit into the game.

If there are tools that lets us at least texture the game, I'd make some stuff for it too. I'm really interested in the era.

10 minutes ago, Lundy said:

As for the cars, I don't think it'd be a problem for me. :D I have plenty of cars that would fit into the game.

Haha, I always wanted to try your cars, but never really bothered changing everything to fit the times. But if you managed to get it to work for Mafia, I'd use them all in a heartbeat.

12 hours ago, Lundy said:

What's wrong with the port? Only thing I've heard of is the FPS lock. Mafia III is a fine port, I've only had one crash out of the 10+ hours I've played it.

You didnt have trouble with the lighting, skies and object clipping? I have yet to buy it, but I saw alot of people having issues with it.

I'm not sure personally its enough of a leap forward from GTA 5 to warrant scripting police stuff and all that jazz.

4 hours ago, S0berDrunk said:

You didnt have trouble with the lighting, skies and object clipping? I have yet to buy it, but I saw alot of people having issues with it.

Only the lighting. It's apparently supposed to be cloud movement.

Yeah, I can't wait to drive around in 2016 Lamborghini Aventador while being chased by 2016 Ford Explorers.

Edited October 9, 20169 yr by PJR4015
Typo

4 minutes ago, PJR4015 said:

Yeah, I can't wait driving around in 2016 Lamborghini Aventador while being chased by 2016 Ford Explorers.

Yeah no.

5 hours ago, Lundy said:

Only the lighting. It's apparently supposed to be cloud movement.

They ruined the Mafia series.. It used to be its own formula you know, move in with a team, take revenge and heavily based on the story. Now its just alot more plain and seems to be a more lonewolf type game.

4 minutes ago, S0berDrunk said:

They ruined the Mafia series.. It used to be its own formula you know, move in with a team, take revenge and heavily based on the story. Now its just alot more plain and seems to be a more lonewolf type game.

They didn't ruin the series. It's a great game. It's just a different setting and a different play style. Take note, it IS your own revenge. You're not a part of a mafia, you just assemble a small team and take revenge. Take note, the game was not developed by the same people. There are things from Mafia II I wish were in Mafia III, plenty, but Mafia III is a great game none-the-less.

11 minutes ago, S0berDrunk said:

They ruined the Mafia series.. It used to be its own formula you know, move in with a team, take revenge and heavily based on the story. Now its just alot more plain and seems to be a more lonewolf type game.

I hope you realize a lot of the shit in the previous Mafia games was also "lonewolf". Sure you might've been technically working for the mafia but a lot of time you didn't have backup of any sort with you or you were still running with just one guy.

Guess what? Mafia III is also heavily based on the story, you gather quite a few helpful allies along the way. You know, a team? Then extract revenge. Sounds pretty much the same to me.

6 minutes ago, Lundy said:

They didn't ruin the series. It's a great game. It's just a different setting and a different play style. Take note, it IS your own revenge. You're not a part of a mafia, you just assemble a small team and take revenge. Take note, the game was not developed by the same people. There are things from Mafia II I wish were in Mafia III, plenty, but Mafia III is a great game none-the-less.

I know its a different setting with different devs, and Im sure its a great game. Just not under the Mafia franchise IMO. Heres why, Mafia 1/2 where more realistic and alive in a way that wasnt with exploding cars and Hollywood like action. In Mafia 1/2 it actually felt like you where with the mob and you were set in realistic situations with a crew most of the time. The revenge you took seemed possible and when you did it it felt like planning, strategy and teamwork was behind it. In 3 you seem to just blindly lonewolf alot of the game, with a Hollywood actor, not a mobster.

5 minutes ago, S0berDrunk said:

I know its a different setting with different devs, and Im sure its a great game. Just not under the Mafia franchise IMO. Heres why, Mafia 1/2 where more realistic and alive in a way that wasnt with exploding cars and Hollywood like action. In Mafia 1/2 it actually felt like you where with the mob and you were set in realistic situations with a crew most of the time. The revenge you took seemed possible and when you did it it felt like planning, strategy and teamwork was behind it. In 3 you seem to just blindly lonewolf alot of the game, with a Hollywood actor, not a mobster.

That's because you're not a mobster. You're a black Vietnam vet in the 1960's.

Edited October 9, 20169 yr by Lundy

5 minutes ago, Lundy said:

That's because you're not a mobster. You're a black Vietnam vet in the 1960's.

Exactly, thats why it shouldnt be in the Mafia franchise.

13 minutes ago, Olanov said:

I hope you realize a lot of the shit in the previous Mafia games was also "lonewolf". Sure you might've been technically working for the mafia but a lot of time you didn't have backup of any sort with you or you were still running with just one guy.

Guess what? Mafia III is also heavily based on the story, you gather quite a few helpful allies along the way. You know, a team? Then extract revenge. Sounds pretty much the same to me.

I recently finished the game and I lonewolfed in 2/3 missions. The rest was either with a crew or Joe. I know that there is a revenge system but its not nearly as good as Mafia 2. In Mafia 2 you´d fuck up the greasers for what they did by shooting up their clubhouse and killing some of them. in 3 is not even close to how a mafia operates, the whole game does not play like its taking place in a mob, thus it shouldnt be in the Mafia franchise IMO. 

26 minutes ago, S0berDrunk said:

I know its a different setting with different devs, and Im sure its a great game. Just not under the Mafia franchise IMO. Heres why, Mafia 1/2 where more realistic and alive in a way that wasnt with exploding cars and Hollywood like action. In Mafia 1/2 it actually felt like you where with the mob and you were set in realistic situations with a crew most of the time. The revenge you took seemed possible and when you did it it felt like planning, strategy and teamwork was behind it. In 3 you seem to just blindly lonewolf alot of the game, with a Hollywood actor, not a mobster.

The devs specifically said II plays out like a hollywood gangster movie... and it does. None of the Mafia games would really fall under the realism category. Merely certain story details and specifics but in general, the titles are heavily action oriented which includes a lot of exploding cars and killing an endless number of people.

Games are games and it was done before as well. Jimmy's Vendetta? Wasn't anybody saying that ruined the series. JA? Just you running and gunning. Some even called it better than II itself.

About strategy and teamwork... in III you also wound up with a team. Even members of the Mafia who got betrayed by their peers. Vito per example. A lot of the game you work with the crew you've got, so you're doing planning, strategy and teamwork. You got John Donovan running a lot of the intel and perp work before you even do an op.

To be a game about the Mafia, you don't have to be working for them. It could be told from the PoV of an outsider as long as a heavy center point is the Mafia itself, which it is, and in great detail I migth add.

Edited October 9, 20169 yr by Olanov

The game is certainly a departure from the more linear mission-based approach of the previous games; whether it's a welcome change or not is up for debate. Personally, I'm not too sure about the game so far; aside from Lincoln and Vito, none of the characters seem memorable alongside the more abstract story. The gameplay is decent, with good shooting/basic stealth combo missions standing out. The driving, on the other hand, is frankly a bit hit-and-miss compared to II's driving. I'm especially disappointed in the police/wanted system, as all the cops do now is shoot on sight, even for minor things like crashes or pushing past a cop, stuff which would have warranted a ticket and nothing more in previous games, and the AI is dull (I went up to a group of cops and repeatedly ran into them and jumped all over their cars, all for a collection of disgruntled stares and racist comments) making it not so fun to play. One thing that does shine is the ambiance in the missions and the open world, it really feels quite alive and detailed, for example sneaking past a cop car to hear the dispatch audio. As far as police modding goes, I'm not too sure it'll really go anywhere, as the lack of an arrest animation outside mission-specific instances not to mention the difficulty of making scripts for the game makes the prospect unlikely.