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I must say I've been here for a few year's and though I've never contributed anything like models, or scripts or ect. but I hate see to the community up in arms against each other about models and stuff like that. We're supposed to be a community and help each other out and support others, but now it seems to gotten to the point where people only care about them selves and don't really care about releasing models to the public. It's just sad to see that this is where the lspdfr community has went, because it's definitely been my favorite community I've had the chance to be part of.

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It's pretty sad.  I've never seen it like this before either, and I've been here for a while too!

I know over here in the developer community we're all sharing code, allowing other people to help with scripts, and letting people test things for us.

I started out as a vehicle modder for GTA IV and made a few vehicles -- but I'm glad I switched to development.  The group of people working on plugins are some of the best and most helpful people I've met here.


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6 minutes ago, Fiskey111 said:

It's pretty sad.  I've never seen it like this before either, and I've been here for a while too!

I know over here in the developer community we're all sharing code, allowing other people to help with scripts, and letting people test things for us.

I started out as a vehicle modder for GTA IV and made a few vehicles -- but I'm glad I switched to development.  The group of people working on plugins are some of the best and most helpful people I've met here.

I really couldn't be happy to hearing that, because it really has been sad how everyone seems to be acting but I'm glad that some of the community still stands together and helps each other out.

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I've been here since 2011. I can honestly say it's always been like this, though to a lesser degree. It didn't get really bad until 2013.

I don't think it's ever going to stop completely, but we can control how we react to it, and fix problems along the way.

For the most part, I honestly think that this is a healthy community. But there's always going to be a few people that ruin it for everyone else, it's just a part of life. 

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4 minutes ago, Original Light said:

I've been here since 2011. I can honestly say it's always been like this, though to a lesser degree. It didn't get really bad until 2013.

I don't think it's ever going to stop completely, but we can control how we react to it, and fix problems along the way.

I wasn't around back in 2011, but it to me it seems like it's got progressively worse lately. 

But it's nice to see the mods are still heavy within the community, cheers :)

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I understand your point of view. I was once there my self before I started modeling and making different things. So I do understand what your saying and the purpose behind it, but I must speak from the perspective of a modeler. The thing with this community is this, it has become very selfish. People (those who don't contribute) way out number those who do. When I see comments DEMANDING the release of a model that has been shown off in the gallery, it makes me angry. Those people don't understand the hard work and time it takes to make the models that have since been released on here. Not every model that is shown off has to or is going to be released. There has become this idea that "if you showcase it, why not release it?" Or "your just showing it off to look cool." I can honestly say that kind of thing makes me not want to release models. Unfortunately thats only one of the problems. The other is the SEVERE lack of respect for peoples; models, parts, dev items, ideas, etc. people go out and abuse the things they are given, either releasing them without permission, claiming them as their own, or ripping models. It has become such a huge problem that no modelers want to release anything. Just because someone post a pic of a model that isn't released or won't be released, doesn't mean their trying to be rude or get publicity. Their doing it because they like to show off their work of art.

Unfortunately their are growing issues within the community. Not with the community it's self but the people who want to do this kind of thing. 


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As some one who's been here since 2011, and begun moderating in 2012, we've had worse times.

I've seen the site DDoSed to the ground, viruses uploaded, porn spammed on the gallery page, people who consider them selves gods and spit on the members, etc. Yet we're still here and moving along as if it never happened.

I've been a part of many communities, but I come back to LCPDFR/LSPDFR all the time. Why? Because of the community. There will always be a few bunch that try to ruin it for others, but as soon as everyone ignores the issues, they tend to go away them selves.

The issues you see now are what's to be expected. Old members leave, new ones come in. Some are mature, some clearly aren't. The thing is  if the community them selves objects to such behavior that is clearly unfit or considered inexcusable in the public eye, and doesn't encourage it, the problems usually go away.

 

We're all a big family here, and there's some growing pains. However as big as this family is, it's just as strong too.

I'll get off my soap box now...


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Reading this while listening to poor-ish quality of 'Brothers In Arms'. Switching to MP3.

Pretty sad, really. A united community for modding, we wanted. Now we have thieves, arguments, and generally-upsetting stuff going on down on LCPDFR.com. Anyone heard about the KevinDV or whatever his name was situation? Turns out, his second account, @Kane104just got banned for some reason.

If it's something I'm responsible for, like that file-sharing thing, I'm sorry. And speaking of sorry, I'm ashamed to admit I started a flame war over a certain WTC mod. I really didn't want it to end that way, but a 9/11 victim's offspring stepped in, and ho boy, it went out of control.

Modding is a tricky business, IMO. I've been on MTS, and when they were going to shut down the off-topic section, I was the first to act in protest. A few days later in a set of heated PMs, I got unfairly banned by the site manager, exiled to a site which has pretty much died. So I'm a veteran of conflict on modding websites myself.

God help me if I get into a big protest on the site.


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