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LSPD First Response 0.2a Update

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Rockstar isn't to blame for the Ragehook teams failure of communication to plugin developers.

You're right. I was meaning that constant updates doesn't make easy job for plugin developpers

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  • Nothing different. At the end of the day, this is simply bad news for people that want to play LSPDFR.  It means that we'll be downloading RPH at the same time you, and everyone else is.  We then ha

  • No we collectively decided to stop developing this just to watch you all lose your shit :) Have a nice day :D  

  • Just to help spell it out for those that aren't reading the full thread... 1. GTA just updated - This means Ragehook etc is now not working 2. Your game will crash until Ragehook is updated. 3. Get ri

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No.  The last time I was in contact with MulleDK19 was a couple of weeks ago.  I actually expressed concern about the state of RPH, with so many useless additions (such as plugin verification and logos everywhere) being added, and was told in response there was a "simple solution to that".  The implication being not to use RPH.

Apparently he tried to talk to you on TS, but you were in a locked channel or something (not too familiar with TS). I'm sure this will all get sorted out sooner or later though.

He's on the rage hook IRC right now, if you want to message him.

No.  The last time I was in contact with MulleDK19 was a couple of weeks ago.  I actually expressed concern about the state of RPH, with so many useless additions (such as plugin verification and logos everywhere) being added, and was told in response there was a "simple solution to that".  The implication being not to use RPH.

MulleDK19 stated on irc that he tried to reach you today with no luck because he was on business trip. It'll be great if he keeps you updated on RPH due to the amazing work done on LSPDFR

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So anyone know why it's still crashing on the new update?

 

Nope, you'll need to ask the RPH team.  I know that a lot of stuff is different in the retail version.

 

"You tell me exactly what you want, and I will very carefully explain to you why it cannot be."

Uh, it's not updated yet?

In the "Rage" page they released  0.19.641.4076 Version but still waiting for confirmation!

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Apparently he tried to talk to you on TS, but you were in a locked channel or something (not too familiar with TS). I'm sure this will all get sorted out sooner or later though.

He's on the rage hook IRC right now, if you want to message him.

MulleDK19 stated on irc that he tried to reach you today with no luck because he was on business trip. It'll be great if he keeps you updated on RPH due to the amazing work done on LSPDFR

I can see he did connect to the Teamspeak server.  Forum PM would have been a better idea, but oh well.

Regardless, I'm working on compiling LSPDFR against the new RPH just now.  I probably won't be able to do as much testing of it as I'd like to, but it is what it is.

"You tell me exactly what you want, and I will very carefully explain to you why it cannot be."

 

I can see he did connect to the Teamspeak server.  Forum PM would have been a better idea, but oh well.

Regardless, I'm working on compiling LSPDFR against the new RPH just now.  I probably won't be able to do as much testing of it as I'd like to, but it is what it is.

For the retail version as well? Or just the steam version?

No.  The last time I was in contact with MulleDK19 was a couple of weeks ago.  I actually expressed concern about the state of RPH, with so many useless additions (such as plugin verification and logos everywhere) being added, and was told in response there was a "simple solution to that".  The implication being not to use RPH.

Right, sorry to hear this, mate. I would be led to believe that the LSPDFR team has exclusive, immediate contact with the RPH team. I can see the importance in maintain an open-line communication to ensure that the integrity of the RPH and mods remains as a steady pillar to capitalize GTA V to endless possibilities. Let alone the LSPDFR, the light tower of GTA V modding community. 

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Right, sorry to hear this, mate. I would be led to believe that the LSPDFR team has exclusive, immediate contact with the RPH team. I can see the importance in maintain an open-line communication to ensure that the integrity of the RPH and mods remains as a steady pillar to capitalize GTA V to endless possibilities. Let alone the LSPDFR, the light tower of GTA V modding community. 

LSPDFR is the largest modding community for GTA5, so it is very crucial that they all work together. LSPDFR is probably the biggest mod using Ragehook hence where they get most of their users.

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For the retail version as well? Or just the steam version?

Problems related to the retail version shouldn't be anything to do with LSPDFR.  According to the website, there's a new version of RPH which fixes a bug present in the retail version.  At the end of the day, LSPDFR is the same on both the retail and Steam versions, but how RPH executes it is not.

Right, sorry to hear this, mate. I would be led to believe that the LSPDFR team has exclusive, immediate contact with the RPH team. I can see the importance in maintain an open-line communication to ensure that the integrity of the RPH and mods remains as a steady pillar to capitalize GTA V to endless possibilities. Let alone the LSPDFR, the light tower of GTA V modding community. 

I'm hoping this is a one off!

At least, though, I hope it can give everyone an insight into the work that goes on behind the scenes here to do what we do.  I especially hope that it can also shed some light on how we've been listening to your feedback about RPH and pushing for changes to it, and I certainly hope we can be in the position to push forward with some positive changes to the hook, like:

  • Toning down the branding and notifications.  I don't think there's any more doubt as to the name of the hook, and those screens get seriously annoying!
  • Removing/significantly redoing the redundant plugin verification system (LSPDFR is the only verified plugin, and it is always a version behind, meaning new releases are never verified)

I know a lot of people are keen to see the removal of the anti-piracy measures.  I do, however, understand the ethics behind them, but I don't think it is a modification developer's place to be enforcing Rockstar's intellectual property rights (especially since the process behind making RPH directly contravenes the EULA of the game, and the name/logos of the hook are quite possibly a violation of these rights itself!).  This is also something that we've mentioned multiple times.

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"You tell me exactly what you want, and I will very carefully explain to you why it cannot be."

Problems related to the retail version shouldn't be anything to do with LSPDFR.  According to the website, there's a new version of RPH which fixes a bug present in the retail version.  At the end of the day, LSPDFR is the same on both the retail and Steam versions, but how RPH executes it is not.

I'm hoping this is a one off!

At least, though, I hope it can give everyone an insight into the work that goes on behind the scenes here to do what we do.  I especially hope that it can also shed some light on how we've been listening to your feedback about RPH and pushing for changes to it, and I certainly hope we can be in the position to push forward with some positive changes to the hook, like:

  • Toning down the branding and notifications.  I don't think there's any more doubt as to the name of the hook, and those screens get seriously annoying!
  • Removing/significantly redoing the redundant plugin verification system (LSPDFR is the only verified plugin, and it is always a version behind, meaning new releases are never verified)

I know a lot of people are keen to see the removal of the anti-piracy measures.  I do, however, understand the ethics behind them, but I don't think it is a modification developer's place to be enforcing Rockstar's intellectual property rights (especially since the process behind making RPH directly contravenes the EULA of the game!).  This is also something that we've mentioned multiple times.

Hey that's ok, keep up the good work guys. Thanks for replying Sam.

Problems related to the retail version shouldn't be anything to do with LSPDFR.  According to the website, there's a new version of RPH which fixes a bug present in the retail version.  At the end of the day, LSPDFR is the same on both the retail and Steam versions, but how RPH executes it is not.

I'm hoping this is a one off!

At least, though, I hope it can give everyone an insight into the work that goes on behind the scenes here to do what we do.  I especially hope that it can also shed some light on how we've been listening to your feedback about RPH and pushing for changes to it, and I certainly hope we can be in the position to push forward with some positive changes to the hook, like:

  • Toning down the branding and notifications.  I don't think there's any more doubt as to the name of the hook, and those screens get seriously annoying!
  • Removing/significantly redoing the redundant plugin verification system (LSPDFR is the only verified plugin, and it is always a version behind, meaning new releases are never verified)

I know a lot of people are keen to see the removal of the anti-piracy measures.  I do, however, understand the ethics behind them, but I don't think it is a modification developer's place to be enforcing Rockstar's intellectual property rights (especially since the process behind making RPH directly contravenes the EULA of the game, and the name of the hook is quite possibly a violation of these rights itself!).  This is also something that we've mentioned multiple times.

One thing for sure, You and the team have made steady progress in turbulent waters. We have full confidence in you and your abilities to maintain this community as a strong foundation. People will know about you and the LCPDFR/LSPDFR for history to come. You created and ignited possibilities, curiosity and opportunities. 

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Still not working with LSPDFR for me at least.

For me, and many others, it's working fine.

Is it crashing? If so, when is it crashing exactly?

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