I assume you mean 18 USC §922(g)(1)? (§921 is just definitions) Strictly speaking, that wouldn't actually bar you from police work - §925(a)(1) says that nearly all of the prohibitions don't apply to firearms issued for the use of a government department or agency. It doesn't exempt in the case of domestic violence misdemeanors, but that's the only class of person who a government agency can't issue a gun to (incidentally, domestic violence *felonies* can be exempt; if you slap your spouse, the government can't issue you a gun, but if you murder your spouse, that's just fine as far as §925(a)(1)'s concerned). You can also petition the Attorney General for relief, or failing that petition a federal district court.

It's not the fact that law bars you from carrying a gun that *formally* bars felons from being cops (a police agency might in practice deny you in the belief that it does, but it doesn't, and they could legally hire you even if they think they couldn't). It's that a police department isn't likely to *want* to issue a gun to someone when carrying it requires them to fall into a special exemption in federal law. The military might do it if they really need personnel (that's probably the origin of the section, actually), but a police department doesn't want to find itself on the spot defending its decision to give Officer Jones a gun when it was a federal crime for anyone *besides* the government to give Jones a gun.

For that matter, no police department wants to find itself explaining why it hired a convicted felon if there's a big media blowup about an allegation of excessive force by them (even if you specifically won't be involved with excessive force complaints, and they probably expect you won't or they wouldn't hire you, they still have to worry about if you are involved). Or, and this is something all cops *are* involved in, if a defense attorney mentions the officer's criminal record when there's a question about credibility (while assault doesn't make you more likely to commit perjury, a jury might act like it does).

So yeah, you're absolutely correct that a police hire for a convicted felon, especially for a violent felony (or a felony involving misrepresentation; don't try to become a cop if you're a convicted perjurer). Just the reason is a bit different :P

Do you study Law and Ethics or do you just Google this stuff? You seem to know a lot about this type of subject, and it's honestly very impressive.

Nope. Not going to happen. You made a stupid decision and that's going to carry with you. Kissing ass to a judge and begging and pleading is not going to get you a pardon. You want one, go earn it. Go do community service, volunteer, help the community, and then MAYBE a judge would even CONSIDER it; and that's after years of doing those things. 

If you want to be cop SO BAD, join the military. They give moral waivers for just about anything, short of rape and murder 2. Go be an MP or something. At least you'll do cop stuff.

Could I become a cop in Canada or will my felony follow me there? 

 

You would have to get a pardon PLUS you have to be a Canadian Citizen & it's not even a for sure you could get a pardon.

Being a cop in Canada has such high demand, Halifax Regional Police has a waiting list of applicants of up to 5 years... they hire right out of high school & the RCMP can leave you waiting for up to a couple years.

Ah - the topic on forgiving felons you made awhile back makes a lot more sense now...

http://www.bailacademy.org/cur.html

And more on how to become a fugitive recovery agent.

http://education-portal.com/articles/How_to_Become_a_Fugitive_Recovery_Agent_Career_Roadmap.html

Nope. Not going to happen. You made a stupid decision and that's going to carry with you. Kissing ass to a judge and begging and pleading is not going to get you a pardon. You want one, go earn it. Go do community service, volunteer, help the community, and then MAYBE a judge would even CONSIDER it; and that's after years of doing those things. 

If you want to be cop SO BAD, join the military. They give moral waivers for just about anything, short of rape and murder 2. Go be an MP or something. At least you'll do cop stuff.

Thank you so much. I did make an stupid decision however it was not intentionally shooting a minor in the back with a bb gun It was poor judgement. I didn't bother to check to see if the child was in the line of fire. I deserve forgiveness and my gun rights restored. Now I understand that a crime is a wrong against society at large according to my paralegal law books however I have paid this child's family more than enough I have cried, begged, pleaded, and done all I could to express gratitude if the child and the family can forgive then society should as well. Also The military wont accept felons anymore. 

Nope. Not going to happen. You made a stupid decision and that's going to carry with you. Kissing ass to a judge and begging and pleading is not going to get you a pardon. You want one, go earn it. Go do community service, volunteer, help the community, and then MAYBE a judge would even CONSIDER it; and that's after years of doing those things. 

If you want to be cop SO BAD, join the military. They give moral waivers for just about anything, short of rape and murder 2. Go be an MP or something. At least you'll do cop stuff.

I thought you couldn't join the military with a felony charge?

http://www.bailacademy.org/cur.html

And more on how to become a fugitive recovery agent.

http://education-portal.com/articles/How_to_Become_a_Fugitive_Recovery_Agent_Career_Roadmap.html

Hey chester this sounds like an interesting career. However, I can't posses a Taser. Its sucks Bro. 1 Mistake Just 1. Why let so called criminals back into a productive society if you feel they are incapable of being productive? Our system has always been Hypocritical.

Not 100% sure what type of felony you had, i'm guessing it was a Serious Misconduct Involving a Firearm, but not sure, but I see that they do accept some felons, but not each branch does, it depends on what there requirements are, I would check out this site or maybe this one. Also, read this if you live in Illinois, might give you a better chance, not sure, Hopefully this did help. Also, the last article, was only if it passes the Senate, not sure if it did, as my name states, I live in Indiana, so im not sure, like I said, hope I helped you some.

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Most people who have committed aggravated assault are likely to repeat their offences if they are given back gun rights or are allowed to become police officers or members of the military. People would abuse the shit out of a system that forgives and returns the rights back to potentially dangerous people just by taking a class or getting an expungement.

 

You need to look at this from a police departments point of view - you are looking for potential police officers who have obeyed and are willing to enforce the law. These people need to be qualified and must have shown in their past that they can be responsible. So, an applicant comes to you and says "I shot a little kid in the back with a BB gun and was arrested for aggravated assault" and there are most likely many other more qualified applicants with clean records, you would probably choose the ones who have clean records over the felon.

 

Also, someone said this above, but saying "I deserve forgiveness and my gun rights restored" gives off the impression that you aren't taking responsibility. Instead of working towards proving that you can be a good citizen (community service, other public servant jobs etc etc.) you are trying to brush it off as if it was something minor and that you are an exception to everyone else. This WILL matter in a recruitment setting. The recruiter is looking for specific character traits, and taking responsibility for your actions is one of them.

Most people who have committed aggravated assault are likely to repeat their offences if they are given back gun rights or are allowed to become police officers or members of the military. People would abuse the shit out of a system that forgives and returns the rights back to potentially dangerous people just by taking a class or getting an expungement.

 

You need to look at this from a police departments point of view - you are looking for potential police officers who have obeyed and are willing to enforce the law. These people need to be qualified and must have shown in their past that they can be responsible. So, an applicant comes to you and says "I shot a little kid in the back with a BB gun and was arrested for aggravated assault" and there are most likely many other more qualified applicants with clean records, you would probably choose the ones who have clean records over the felon.

 

Also, someone said this above, but saying "I deserve forgiveness and my gun rights restored" gives off the impression that you aren't taking responsibility. Instead of working towards proving that you can be a good citizen (community service, other public servant jobs etc etc.) you are trying to brush it off as if it was something minor and that you are an exception to everyone else. This WILL matter in a recruitment setting. The recruiter is looking for specific character traits, and taking responsibility for your actions is one of them.

Sir I really respect your opinion. But trust me if I honestly did this crime intentionally I would not be debating this. I really did not do it on purpose. Would you like ot read the story it made the news.

Sir I really respect your opinion. But trust me if I honestly did this crime intentionally I would not be debating this. I really did not do it on purpose. Would you like ot read the story it made the news.

 

Yes please.

Yes please.

http://www.wboy.com/story/16902246/2012/02/09/kyre-richardson-pleads-guilty-to-unlawful-assault

http://www.wboy.com/story/16902246/2012/02/09/kyre-richardson-pleads-guilty-to-unlawful-assault

 

Alright, now please tell the story from your side. I've read what the news has said, now I want to hear an account of your actions.

I thought you couldn't join the military with a felony charge?

Commander's discretion, and help from a recruiter. If they really like you, they'll sugar coat the letter they send asking for a waiver. Then the commander will say yay or nay. But you can. That was a huge thing a few years ago; about letting felons into the military.

Sir I really respect your opinion. But trust me if I honestly did this crime intentionally I would not be debating this. I really did not do it on purpose. Would you like ot read the story it made the news.

 

While that's grand and all, again you're not going to get a it expunged without putting forth a lot of effort, with no guarantee of success.

 

If it were easy, there would be millions of people taking advantage of it. Especially a gun crime.

 

My advice is join the military and do LE there and stay clean, honorable discharge, and a few commendations wouldn't help. Then, that might help your chances in civilian LE and/or getting your record sealed/expunged.

Alright, now please tell the story from your side. I've read what the news has said, now I want to hear an account of your actions.

As you can tell the media couldn't go into much detail as the state had to go by what they knew. It was 3 P.M. Friday I had just gotten off of work and was tired as heck. I went to take a shower and get out of my work clothes, I noticed the young boy in my room standing on a chair, and reaching on the top of a dresser and ask him what he doing and he told me I was getting that gun. I told him not to touch it and to please excuse himself from the room. He did so. After this I went into the living room to get something to eat and Headed back to my room. the child was back in the room and this time had the daisy model air soft pistol in his hand. I kindly asked him to give it too me and he did. I noticed that the gun was out of safety mod and very cold from the CO2 Leaking gas slowly. I called my wife to tel the child to please explain to his mother about this, and while facing the gun I placed it in safety sitting on my bed and checked the trigger and boom the gun exploded the child hit the ground and started to yell. I grabbed the child got a cold cloth and placed on to his back and checked for bb inside his back. There weren't any. I carried him to his mom and she told me not to panic as I started to panic really bad. His dad told me its OK man I know you didn't it do it personally and we are just going to take him to a doctor. After he they returned they called me up to their home a told me that officer kirkpatrick wanted to speak with me about the incident and would be arriving at 6 P.M. Waiting and waiting until they arrived nervous as can be I decided to get ready for bed(had work the next day) thinking that they were not going to show up. They ended up showing up at 12 midnight Telling me that the attorney prosecutor wanted me arrested for child abuse resulting in injury. They didn't place me in cuffs saying that I was more than cooperative read me my rights and officer Mike Posey the assistant officer placed me in the passenger side of his cruiser. I spent a day in a holding cell and got a date for magistrate court where they found me not guilty of child abuse stating that I wasn't some kid with a history of shooting children and I wasn't a legal guardian.

On the witness stand the mother told the court Magistrate moody that she don't believe that I intentionally shot her son with a BB pistol. Officer kirkpatrick became outraged almost was held in contempt of court for pointing the gun at the magistrate ( I am guessing not intentionally) He also used a different gun during the explanation stating trying to prove that the gun could only shoot one bb at a time, (Later an expert was called in proving him to be entirely false).  After I won the original case I was re indited on 3 counts of malicious wounding where I plead guilty to. I received no jail time got the charged dropped down to 1 count of unlawful assault. I only got probation for 5 year 995 dollars in fines in which I paid off that same month. and got off of probation on good behavior in two years. In the process my police exam was cancled, I lost my job ( got another one however went from being a well fare working to working at Wendy's.)

 

This is my story, feel free to ask questions.

 

Kyre"

This is my story, feel free to ask questions.

 

Kyre"

 

To be fair, you don't sound like a bad person. However, it sounds like you got the shitty end of the stick and you have to pay the unfortunate price.

To be fair, you don't sound like a bad person. However, it sounds like you got the shitty end of the stick and you have to pay the unfortunate price.

Thank you sir and honestly yes it was just my luck. Or maybe God saving me from what might occurred to me as a cop.

Thank you sir and honestly yes it was just my luck. Or maybe God saving me from what might occurred to me as a cop.

 

I think the most important thing you could do, is understand that you don't have to be a cop, to be a cop... 

 

Hope that makes sense to you... But, you gotta understand, a badge doesn't make the person... The police officer's mentality can be rooted in some of the most unlikely people, but the desire to protect and serve is still there.

 

Badges and uniforms are nice, but what really matters is doing the right thing. If you live your life doing the right thing and upholding the same values you would have if you were a cop, then what's the difference? Hell, think about it this way. Now you can spend your life doing everything a cop would, without the pain of having to be a cop. 

I think the most important thing you could do, is understand that you don't have to be a cop, to be a cop... 

 

Hope that makes sense to you... But, you gotta understand, a badge doesn't make the person... The police officer's mentality can be rooted in some of the most unlikely people, but the desire to protect and serve is still there.

 

Badges and uniforms are nice, but what really matters is doing the right thing. If you live your life doing the right thing and upholding the same values you would have if you were a cop, then what's the difference? Hell, think about it this way. Now you can spend your life doing everything a cop would, without the pain of having to be a cop. 

I really like this. However I might get to excited and start my own police force knowing me :) lol