U.S. Marine reservist Sgt. Andrew Tahmooressi, jailed in Mexico on gun charges since March, was ordered released by a judge in Mexico on Friday, according to documents released by the court.

The California native, 26, was arrested on March 31 after he says he got lost and crossed the Mexican border with three firearms in his pickup truck. Tahmooressi served two tours of duty in Afghanistan.

Unlike American law, in Mexico one is guilty until proven innocent and the decision rests solely in the judge’s hands. It is a shame that the United States is bordering such a corrupt country.

 

https://gma.yahoo.com/mexican-judge-orders-us-marine-reservist-released-002900463--abc-news-topstories.html

Don't see any discussion here other than starting a flame war.... It's their law. How does that make them corrupt, or us better than them?

Some countries are diffrent than ours that doesn't necessarily make them wrong. For example one law in signgapore says that anyone who litters gets ten lashes by a rattan cane, here in the U.S we call that a cruel and unusual punishment but in signgapore it's what they do.

Their country their rules, It's like if I came to the US with a water bottle.

Because I'm brown, English accent, short beard with Malik as a last name I'd be stuck in the interrogation room trying to pin me as a terrorist which I can assure you that I'm not since I'm afraid of weapons,

 

Edit: Who crosses a border with weapons in the back of their van anyways?

Edited November 1, 201411 yr by Rogue

Don't see any discussion here other than starting a flame war.... It's their law. How does that make them corrupt, or us better than them?

There is plenty that can be discussed here. It's obvious that Mexico has a line of absolute corruption in their government and law enforcement. All it takes is a quick Google search to see hundreds of reports of the Mexican Police publicly stealing from it's people, or demanding money from tourists otherwise imprisonment. It doesn't necessarily make the United States better than Mexico, but it's obvious that their corruption is much worse. Yes I agree "their country their rules", but any old country can't just set any old rules. If a country said that all women needed to be sex slaves or they'd be hanged, I doubt people would so easily accept it as "their country their rules". This argument works some of the time, but not all of the time.

Their country their rules, It's like if I came to the US with a water bottle.

Because I'm brown, English accent, short beard with Malik as a last name I'd be stuck in the interrogation room trying to pin me as a terrorist which I can assure you that I'm not since I'm afraid of weapons,

 

Edit: Who crosses a border with weapons in the back of their van anyways?

A bit deeper into the article, it states that he was lost. Now whether or not you accept this as true, is up to you.

There is plenty that can be discussed here. It's obvious that Mexico has a line of absolute corruption in their government and law enforcement. All it takes is a quick Google search to see hundreds of reports of the Mexican Police publicly stealing from it's people, or demanding money from tourists otherwise imprisonment. It doesn't necessarily make the United States better than Mexico, but it's obvious that their corruption is much worse. Yes I agree "their country their rules", but any old country can't just set any old rules. If a country said that all women needed to be sex slaves or they'd be hanged, I doubt people would so easily accept it as "their country their rules". This argument works some of the time, but not all of the time.

A bit deeper into the article, it states that he was lost. Now whether or not you accept this as true, is up to you.

Is this topic about the Marine arrested, or Mexican corruption? Nobody can say it's corruption if he's arrested, because it's their laws. It's the Marine's fault for carrying guns and not knowing the law. And it's their laws if you're immediately arrested and detained until otherwise proven innocence.

And no doubt there is corruption, but corruption is unrelated to the topic title.

Edited November 1, 201411 yr by Pavelow

There is plenty that can be discussed here. It's obvious that Mexico has a line of absolute corruption in their government and law enforcement. All it takes is a quick Google search to see hundreds of reports of the Mexican Police publicly stealing from it's people, or demanding money from tourists otherwise imprisonment. It doesn't necessarily make the United States better than Mexico, but it's obvious that their corruption is much worse. Yes I agree "their country their rules", but any old country can't just set any old rules. If a country said that all women needed to be sex slaves or they'd be hanged, I doubt people would so easily accept it as "their country their rules". This argument works some of the time, but not all of the time.

A bit deeper into the article, it states that he was lost. Now whether or not you accept this as true, is up to you.

 

Yes, but it's still their land. Whether he was lost or not doesn't changed the fact he was in Mexican territory.

 

There is nothing here about corruption and how does corruption even relate to him being arrested?

Edited November 1, 201411 yr by Rogue

Yes, but it's still their land. Whether he was lost or not doesn't changed the fact he was in Mexican territory.

 

There is nothing here about corruption and how does corruption even relate to him being arrested?

The way Mexican streets are designed on the border are retarded. If you take one wrong turn, you could be driving for hours deep into Mexico down a one-way street. Apparently this is what happened to this man.

 

Is this topic about the Marine arrested, or Mexican corruption? Nobody can say it's corruption if he's arrested, because it's their laws. It's the Marine's fault for carrying guns and not knowing the law. And it's their laws if you're immediately arrested and detained until otherwise proven innocence.

And no doubt there is corruption, but corruption is unrelated to the topic title.

Right, but the only problem is that corruption coincides with their law. If a Mexican officer were to stop you and demand $500, you could be arrested if you don't pay him. Now you're in prison for absolutely nothing, and must prove your innocence to be released. Keeping in mind that being White in the middle of Mexico isn't always the best feeling, nor will people value your say as much. I hate to use race as an example, but try walking down the streets of Mexico city like you would in the United States. I doubt it would go too well, even for me being African-American.

 

But anyways, the topic is about a Marine that was arrested, with corruption coinciding with his arrest and detainment.

The way Mexican streets are designed on the border are retarded. If you take one wrong turn, you could be driving for hours deep into Mexico down a one-way street. Apparently this is what happened to this man.

 

Right, but the only problem is that corruption coincides with their law. If a Mexican officer were to stop you and demand $500, you could be arrested if you don't pay him. Now you're in prison for absolutely nothing, and must prove your innocence to be released. Keeping in mind that being White in the middle of Mexico isn't always the best feeling, nor will people value your say as much. I hate to use race as an example, but try walking down the streets of Mexico city like you would in the United States. I doubt it would go too well, even for me being African-American.

 

But anyways, the topic is about a Marine that was arrested, with corruption coinciding with his arrest and detainment.

 

Ah, then the issue is the borders then, not corruption, the fact is he still went into their territory with weapons. Who drives around with weapons? Also, it should've been clear that he was going to Mexico since the border doesn't seem like what you described. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico%E2%80%93United_States_border

He can't have gotten "lost" and "wandered" into Mexican territory. Also, him being a US Marine Reservist doesn't change anything.

Don't see any discussion here other than starting a flame war.... It's their law. How does that make them corrupt, or us better than them?

uh....the mexican government is a pretty corrupt one

 

 

Unlike American law, in Mexico one is guilty until proven innocent

Well, that topic is definitely interesting for me since it states that Mexican justice system has no presumption of innocence. However, I did some research and discovered that they actually do have that presumption. The issue is a pre-trial detention thing. This detention is used heavily in Mexican justice system and some researchers claim this to be a violation of human rights since a detainee is presumed to be guilty by media, people, all that. Russia is known for that too, we like to detain or to impose a home arrest, however, the burden of proof is still carried by the accuser. I don't think this may be called an absence of presumption of innocence. 

 

uh....the mexican government is a pretty corrupt one

Never said they weren't corrupt.I said just because the way they handle their law and justice system doesn't make them corrupt. This whole topic of this thread has nothing to do with corruption.

The way Mexican streets are designed on the border are retarded. If you take one wrong turn, you could be driving for hours deep into Mexico down a one-way street. Apparently this is what happened to this man.

Right, but the only problem is that corruption coincides with their law. If a Mexican officer were to stop you and demand $500, you could be arrested if you don't pay him. Now you're in prison for absolutely nothing, and must prove your innocence to be released. Keeping in mind that being White in the middle of Mexico isn't always the best feeling, nor will people value your say as much. I hate to use race as an example, but try walking down the streets of Mexico city like you would in the United States. I doubt it would go too well, even for me being African-American.

But anyways, the topic is about a Marine that was arrested, with corruption coinciding with his arrest and detainment.

Well a cop extorting citizens has nothing to do with this discussion. And because the roads are designed badly, then that makes it his fault? That's horrible logic. Know the border, know the laws. It's completely his fault, intentional or not.

Edited November 1, 201411 yr by Pavelow

it has everything to do with corruption its the reason why the marine was jailed in the first place

it has everything to do with corruption its the reason why the marine was jailed in the first place

So what you're saying is it's Mexico fault that that guy got caught. Your argument is invalid.

it has everything to do with corruption its the reason why the marine was jailed in the first place

False. That's their written law. No corruption there. Marine's fault.

only corrupt goverments have strict gun laws...fact...your argument is invalid

only corrupt goverments have strict gun laws...fact...your argument is invalid

Too bad you don't actually know the definition between fact and opinion.

only corrupt goverments have strict gun laws...fact...your argument is invalid

Again your argument is invalid, having strict laws in general does not make a country corrupt, my school has very strict attendance rules. Does that make my school corrupt?

only corrupt goverments have strict gun laws...fact...your argument is invalid

If that's a fact, please give a definition of "corrupt". Because according to one of the most widely accepted measures of corruption (Transparency International), the least corrupt countries in the world generally have some manner of firearms restrictions, which would likely prohibit someone who is neither citizen nor permanent resident from having firearms in public. The UK, which has extremely strict firearms regulations, is ranked as less corrupt than the US, which has looser firearms laws than most of the world.

False. That's their written law. No corruption there. Marine's fault.

Well I partially agree with tz71. It's the Marine's fault for being oblivious to what should have been obvious. It's Mexico's fault for deciding when it wants to enforce it's laws. Mexico decides to detain an American soldier, and jail him in an instant. Mexico then holds this soldier for almost a year, and the order of a single person authorizes his release. How many other people in Mexico have blatantly broken obvious laws, and Mexico does nothing about it? How many others have driven around in Mexico with the eye-stabbing view of automatic weapons, and Mexico does nothing? Then all of a sudden, a White American soldier has guns, and they jail him almost instantly; Rather then deport him back to the United States and deal with it diplomatically. Mexico is quick to detain one American soldier, but what about the ten million illegal Mexicans in the United States?

Edited November 2, 201411 yr by CriminalKillaz