The riot police is a clear example of which side the law enforcement would officialy by: the capital and big companies.

 

Where's that taken from?

Also, iirc they don't work for corporations.

Where's that taken from?

Also, iirc they don't work for corporations.

Governments do, then so do law. The picture was taken in Manaus, Brazil, during a forced eviction.

I don't think it is that easy. I don't think every PD would take the same side. Maybe some Departments would stay loyal to the Gov. while others would join the revolution. I don't think every single officer would be fighting for ONE side. Thats a decision everyone has to make for them self.

 

 

Governments do, then so do law. The picture was taken in Manaus, Brazil, during a forced eviction.

 

Maybe in Brazil. Doesn't quite apply everywhere though.

The riot police is a clear example of which side the law enforcement would officially by: the capital and big companies.

Not really, or at all actually. In the case there is a protest that gets out of hand, or just a full scale riot, aren't the police allowed to wear gear that will adequately protect themselves? In such situations there is a duty to protect social order and (attempt to anyway) protect property that may be damaged/destroyed. 

Maybe in Brazil. Doesn't quite apply everywhere though.

Yes, it’s applied everywhere else, it's the wonderful world of the capitalism.

Not really, or at all actually. In the case there is a protest that gets out of hand, or just a full scale riot, aren't the police allowed to wear gear that will adequately protect themselves? In such situations there is a duty to protect social order and (attempt to anyway) protect property that may be damaged/destroyed.

I haven't said the riot police shouldn't exist, I've said that it works for the power, and sometimes the power forget who should they work for, the people. And when the power needs to silence the people's will the riot police comes into scene.

Why do riot police help a bank, a private corporation, evict a normal working family who’s not going to burn the streets down or anything like that?

Why do riot police help a bank, a private corporation, evict a normal working family who’s not going to burn the streets down or anything like that?

Because many peoples emotions get the better of them under social pressure, so they can take their frustration out physically on people who work for the bank when they can't pay their mortgage or they think their taxes are too high. Bankers are citizens too, so the police need to protect them and their property from physical harm. If bankers decided to sit in our driveways not allowing our cars to pass through and hold up signs in front of our windows while standing on our porches, the police would pepper spray them and handcuff them just the same.

I can appreciate that the U.S. economy is screwed up, and that politicians play a large part in it, but most American citizens either do absolutely nothing, or they take unreasonable measures in the form of physical protest without actual action that would change the situation for everyone. The best thing to do would be to have the thousands of people protesting to write their congressman instead and threaten no re-election. But such is life. As far as I'm concerned, humans aren't much higher up in the evolutionary tree than chimpanzees. We screech and make a lot of noise when we're angry and we attack people for seemingly no reason quite often, just like chimps do. We just have a bigger vocabulary and are capable of using tools. We're not as intelligent as everybody thinks we are, otherwise social an economic barriers wouldn't exist. We'd be above such a concept as a hierarchy.

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Yes, it’s applied everywhere else, it's the wonderful world of the capitalism.

 

 

Oh right, sure. Damn capitalist pigs. We should let people get out of control and maybe get someone hurt too in the process. Much better. Yeah, I agree.

For those who wish to talk about modern civilization, government and where we're heading as a species, I highly suggest watching this video really quick, its a great theory and it explains a lot

Yeah we gotta move back to the more free days of berlin.... 

Yes, it’s applied everywhere else, it's the wonderful world of the capitalism.

I haven't said the riot police shouldn't exist, I've said that it works for the power, and sometimes the power forget who should they work for, the people. And when the power needs to silence the people's will the riot police comes into scene.

Why do riot police help a bank, a private corporation, evict a normal working family who’s not going to burn the streets down or anything like that?

 

Because those corporations, banks, ect have the same protection under the law as anyone else/other property does. 

Why has the comunism even brought to this topic, pointing out that capitalism is faulty means that I am supporting comunism? By the way, you should check the amount of victims the capitalism and American imperialism left as well in places like South America during the XX century before pointing to the Soviet Union and comunism as the only criminal side.

Specially since the financial crisis started, banks and corporations are the only ones which are being benefited, the Governments help them at the cost of taking people's rights away (social, laboral, etc). And when people show their unsatisfaction what do they find? The repression by the State, which cares more to please these entities than helping out the people.

I can't see how this is having the same protection under the law.

My point is things are not that bad if you look at other systems there is in the world.

Remember this fella? He killed more people than Hitler did.

Things may not be perfect, but they could be far more worse and even then it doesn't warrant destroying other people's property or just causing large disturbances. Doesn't even warrant resisting a peace officer when the riot police show up. You just don't break the law, or you do and end up in the slammer. You find other ways.

 

 

Of course the millions of innocent people repressed, murdered and exploited are poor and live in countries far from Europe and America so who cares about them? After all, people under that other ideology has killed more millions than we have, we must be better.

Things may not be perfect, but they could be far more worse and even then it doesn't warrant destroying other people's property or just causing large disturbances. Doesn't even warrant resisting a peace officer when the riot police show up. You just don't break the law, or you do and end up in the slammer. You find other ways.

But the riot police doesn't always repress only violent demonstrations. They obey the orders of the power, and the power puts the line of when to act, a line which is obviously according to their own interests.

But the riot police doesn't always repress only violent demonstrations. They obey the orders of the power, and the power puts the line of when to act, a line which is obviously according to their own interests.

 

Not always, but usually. This may also depend on the country we're talking about. There's also usually two sides of the story these things.

 

Police are on the side of the people, but are a tool of Government.

On 7/9/2014 at 8:16 PM, CriminalKillaz said:

LMAO.

 

I'm afraid that "just leaving it as a thought" isn't always going to be an option. I can get into a deep, in-depth discussion about this, but I really don't feel like debating right now. All I'm going to say on this particular issue, is that the American people hate it's government. It won't be long until the people have had enough. There's also some American saying, "There's a first time for everything". America's "first time" may be coming.

 

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Based on how the Police have handled Recent Situations Involving The Citizens Being Pissed about the Government it seems like as long as the Protests Stay Peaceful and No Laws are broken the Police are fine with it.  HOWEVER if the Police Department Agrees with the Group even if they are breaking a law they will not doing anything about the laws being broken  (I Believe everyone with a brain here will agree with me that blocking a road in both directions is most certainly illegal) 

 

For Example in Murrietta California a few days ago a Group of Citizens Against the Immigration Policy here Blocked A Few Buses Transporting Kids who have crossed the border to a Border Patrol Facility Nearby. The Group Blocked the road Going Both ways and the Police did absolutely 0 about it  claimed that they didn't have the Man Power to move the group off of the road

 

Source of Example: http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Immigrant-Children-San-Diego-Plane-Murrieta-Minors-Deport-265393001.html

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a Good Example of Police that are Against the People would be the Albuquerque Police Department in New Mexico the Citizens are fed up of what they call Consistent Police Brutality, the ABQPD are Responsible for the Deaths of 23 People over the Last 5 Years and 37 Police Involved Shooting since over the last 4 Years.  a Group of Protesters Decided to Rise Up against the Police there and were met with Riot Police and Tear gas.  Now the Protesters were Blocking main roads in the city, which is illegal. so when the Police tried to get them off the streets. the Protesters fought back Injuring an Officer and there was one report of Protesters trapping Officers in a Vehicle and Trying to break the windows.  However the Police Brutality there has gotten so bad the US Department of Justice and the FBI have opened an investigation on the Department Based off of this clash. i Cant say the ABQ police would be on the Citizens side if they wanted to rise up against the State or Federal Government

 

Source of Example: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/03/30/albuquerque-police-protests/7094819/

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Oh, no, I totally agree. There are many, MANY things wrong with the government that people just hate. I honestly feel like the government is hinting at a fight with their citizens. We were under their control since the beginning, and since then, they've been creating outrageous laws that the American society has gotten used to. But, they're waking up at least.

 

They're getting outrageous everywhere with laws now, a guy in Winnipeg, Manitoba was fined for walking beside his buddy, which is apparently illegal, can't remember what it's called, but people are tired of getting pushed around & being limited to the things they can do & I don't blame them one bit.