IGN posted that the Xbox 360 is going to be with us for three more years before leaving us (i.e Xbox Live is no longer supported for it)

 

What do you think about it? 

 

I hope that they release a "classics" or most sold title for the PS4 and Xbox One so we get to play it there.

 

Links (most likely the same information on both):

 

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/04/xbox-360-support-to-last-to-2016-includes-100-new-games

 

http://www.gamezone.com/news/2013/09/04/xbox-360-support-to-last-to-2016-with-over-100-new-games

 

 

Nothing good will ever last forever, that's the inevitability of time itself. All we can do is enjoy what we have for when we have it and look forward to the future.

With any luck R* might have something planned for next-gen consoles 3 years from now.  A lot can happen in that amount of time.

I bet you all that they are going to port GTA Online and GTA V for next-gens.

All I can express is my utter relief that I didn't get sucked into the Xbox marketing and media hype and buy one for myself. Not least because Xbox consumers, not least here in the UK have been getting the bum deal time, after time, after time.

 

What I mean by that is whilst the Xbox may be cheaper as a unit and seem like it has more to it, but it is far more expensive in the longer term.

 

First off, the console itself is poorly made and prone to faults throughout its life. The RROD error was linked to console overheating, Microsoft's advice: "Play it for less time." but that makes the product not fit for purpose (Trades description act 1968) as most of the games have a play time of 18 hours upwards, so it's reasonable for anyone to expect the console to hold out that long, but most barely held out for 30 minutes. I could go on forever about it's issues: the laser engraver, the fire starter, so on and so fourth.

 

But onto the subject at hand, the online service. £70 for a year's subscription to Live, now to me that's extortionate and unjustifiable, and what's even more ludicrous is that Microsoft seems to think it can ban and suspend without reason or consultation, taking absolutely no account of the fact that people have paid good money to use the service and the service is not delivered.  

 

As to Microsoft stopping Xbox Live for everyone in three years time - this is the mourning song of a failing, poorly managed organisation. Now while Bulmer (or whoever is in charge now) and the board may be patting themselves on the back for saving money by cutting its services, it didn't take into account its legal responsibility to provide the service.

 

Certainly, here in the UK the Xbox has been sold in packages such as the "Elite", which promised, both on the box and in marketing "unlimited free access to Xbox Live". Now much along the lines of debate I outlined over Microsoft's closure of GFWL on the PC (find it here: ) Microsoft therein becomes in breach of the Trades Description Act 1968 (as the box provides false description of what the consumer is buying), as well as the Sales of Goods Act 1979 (that says much in the same thing).

 

Also the marketing materials would then become misleading and Ofcom/ASA rules breached.

 

Furthermore, those who bought subscriptions separate to consoles will have their contract of sales breached by Microsoft, if they still have subscribed time after the cut-off point.

 

Some people may say that "Oh you can just buy an Xbox One and then there's no problem", apart from the fact that cutting off a service someone has paid for, while starting a new one and saying "Tell you what pay £400 and you can have it back" is a form of pressure selling that's disgraceful and immoral, especially in these austere times, you know, what if that person is 100% satisfied with their 360 and wants to keep using it, Microsoft has a moral and legal obligation to ensure that person receives what they pay for, throughout the life of the product, irrespective of their new money-milking machine.

 

Alas I digress, it would however be nice, in relation to GTA Online, to see Rockstar Games come out and explain what this means and what it will be doing to put pressure on Microsoft, to ensure that GTA Online will still function for the 360 audience, as GTAV is likely to be the most current GTA game for a half-decade or possibly more. I also sincerely hope Rockstar will stand their ground and say "it's staying on 360 and Ps3, and not going any further" (well apart from PC).

 

As was with my previous little rant, feel free to use any of my arguments in your battle with Microsoft, if you're so inclined.

 

Regards,

Hench

 

 

Edited September 5, 201312 yr by Hench

The Xbox live gonna die in 2016?

The Xbox live gonna die in 2016?

Yepp.

 

All I can express is my utter relief that I didn't get sucked into the Xbox marketing and media hype and buy one for myself. Not least because Xbox consumers, not least here in the UK have been getting the bum deal time, after time, after time.

 

What I mean by that is whilst the Xbox may be cheaper as a unit and seem like it has more to it, but it is far more expensive in the longer term.

 

First off, the console itself is poorly made and prone to faults throughout its life. The RROD error was linked to console overheating, Microsoft's advice: "Play it for less time." but that makes the product not fit for purpose (Trades description act 1968) as most of the games have a play time of 18 hours upwards, so it's reasonable for anyone to expect the console to hold out that long, but most barely held out for 30 minutes. I could go on forever about it's issues: the laser engraver, the fire starter, so on and so fourth.

 

But onto the subject at hand, the online service. £70 for a year's subscription to Live, now to me that's extortionate and unjustifiable, and what's even more ludicrous is that Microsoft seems to think it can ban and suspend without reason or consultation, taking absolutely no account of the fact that people have paid good money to use the service and the service is not delivered.  

 

As to Microsoft stopping Xbox Live for everyone in three years time - this is the mourning song of a failing, poorly managed organisation. Now while Bulmer (or whoever is in charge now) and the board may be patting themselves on the back for saving money by cutting its services, it didn't take into account its legal responsibility to provide the service.

 

Certainly, here in the UK the Xbox has been sold in packages such as the "Elite", which promised, both on the box and in marketing "unlimited free access to Xbox Live". Now much along the lines of debate I outlined over Microsoft's closure of GFWL on the PC (find it here: ) Microsoft therein becomes in breach of the Trades Description Act 1968 (as the box provides false description of what the consumer is buying), as well as the Sales of Goods Act 1979 (that says much in the same thing).

 

Also the marketing materials would then become misleading and Ofcom/ASA rules breached.

 

Furthermore, those who bought subscriptions separate to consoles will have their contract of sales breached by Microsoft, if they still have subscribed time after the cut-off point.

 

Some people may say that "Oh you can just buy an Xbox One and then there's no problem", apart from the fact that cutting off a service someone has paid for, while starting a new one and saying "Tell you what pay £400 and you can have it back" is a form of pressure selling that's disgraceful and immoral, especially in these austere times, you know, what if that person is 100% satisfied with their 360 and wants to keep using it, Microsoft has a moral and legal obligation to ensure that person receives what they pay for, throughout the life of the product, irrespective of their new money-milking machine.

 

Alas I digress, it would however be nice, in relation to GTA Online, to see Rockstar Games come out and explain what this means and what it will be doing to put pressure on Microsoft, to ensure that GTA Online will still function for the 360 audience, as GTAV is likely to be the most current GTA game for a half-decade or possibly more. I also sincerely hope Rockstar will stand their ground and say "it's staying on 360 and Ps3, and not going any further" (well apart from PC).

 

As was with my previous little rant, feel free to use any of my arguments in your battle with Microsoft, if you're so inclined.

 

Regards,

Hench

 

You're speaking the truth here, nothing to have a war over. I've been using the Xbox since the first one, but they ruined it for the next gen (what I think of) Whoever, everything has it own benefits, (i.e Xbox Live has a monthly fee while PS3 can be played online for free, but it used to have a weak security that got it hacked.)

 

As you may know, PS3 has a GTA V bundle (PS3 + GTA V) which points direct to what I'm thinking of, getting so many players to purchase it on the consoles and if they don't have one, get the bundle. Release later for the PC and get the people to purchase there as well. At least that's what I'm going to do.

 

GFWL - For me, it's worse than Origin. It's good to see it sinking but it's very sad for people who that wants to play multiplayer and have purchased DLCs. Companies such as Microsoft is hard to play against, if you are going to take it to the next level and get them to the court.

good I hate Microsoft I traded in my xbox 360 for a ps3 I didn't like the idea of paying for online when you can have it free on the ps3 they are nothing but a bunch of greedy pos and they deserve to go under

good I hate Microsoft

So what is your operating system?  Mac or Linux?

 

Back on topic.  I hope Rockstar plans on moving GTA4's multiplayer over to their Social Club servers.  I love the multiplayer in GTA4 and GTA4 is my favorite GTA!  I'd hate to see the multiplayer go away because Microsoft wants to clear up some servers.

Hench - Are you trying to argue that promising "unlimited free access" to a service then means that the service may NEVER be discontinued? I admit I'm not an expert on British law, but I imagine that's not an argument that would lead to *any* sympathy from a court.

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Edited June 22, 20241 yr by tobeymaguire