Jump to content

How can you manage ELS 6 work fine with .95? (not a .95 support related topic)


tem

Recommended Posts

Hi Friends,

I want to ask the ones who can use ELS 6 with 0.95. I can see some of you can use it without major problems but mine crashes every few minutes especially when AI cars (backup or random chase events) occurs. I have read some of other related topics but not really satisfied and I need your suggestions. There must be a trick I'm missing.

Now I have no crashes with the original cars, so thats why I'm concentrated on how I use the ELS, may be I do something wrong. I have tested this with several cars, on fresh installed game. With some ELS cars the game crashes very later, with some very frequent. (On another topic someone advised to use ELS 5 for this problem and I will try this too but I wonder how you can manage ELS6 work with yours.)

Here are some questions I'm busy with.

1) Are these crashes happens because of some bugs on those cars own ELS system or the reason is more general like about the harmony between ELS 6 and .95 ?

(Mostly it happens on Police or police2 specially on any kind of Ford Victoria, not really with other cars so often)

2) Is there any advise like, I can stop these crashes by enabling/disabling something in ELS.ini file?

3) Also some cars have extra visual settings file that I don't use. Does these files helps ELS works better, do I also need to use them if they have or they are just visual improvements?

4) If it's not only ELS adjustment problem,.should I just wait for .95 to improve? But this is not fare to see you make 20-30 minutes videos with it :)

Please telle me what may be the problem and how can I fix it.

Thanks to all

Tem

Composer & Sound Designer Team Leader, Music & Sound Production Dept. SEBIT LLC.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I personally have downgraded as it seems that v5 is more stable alongside .91 and .95 of LCPDFR. Also from the look of the videos from unr3al he is also using v5 (judging from the ELS panel missing options that are in v6).

Try an earlier version of ELS. One may be more stable.

Also what vehicle mods are you using? It may be a joint issue with ELS, custom mods and LCPDFR trying to spawn in too many modified vehicles resulting in CTD.

Regards and good luck.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If you have low GPU,CPU,RAM that might be a problem. Also since the ELS models aren't GTA IV default cars they cause problems.

Also ELS cars cause problems because they have a higher quality geometry(I think it's called...), and overall much more shit that will slow down your game.

Some people say that ELSv5 is better... it might be , but it will cause crashes nevertheless.

1) It happens because of the ELS cars(For the reason that i said) and also because of ELS itself because it just overloads the game.

2) Yes, there should be something in the .ini like "Ai_ELS_SP= " , if you put a 0 it will turn off ELS for the AI.

3) Extra Visual improvements means more GPU consumption... so It will definitely not help.

4) It isn't a LCPDFR problem, it's basically a Mods problem. For example when you use car mods and a world event happens the game needs to load every single thing and if you have a bad Processor it's almost guaranteed that your game will crash.

How to fix it...? One option is not to use mods at all, other one is download non-ELS cars(Which are very good looking , and they work just as fine). Or if you want to use mods+els just turn off the ELS for the AI, that should help.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I used to use ELSv5, which solved the problem, though it used to crash like at about half an hour or so.

What I did now is leave police1 and police2 without modding, since those are the most common ones to spawn. I modded noose and fbi; turned off AI-ELS and switched to ELSv6 and now I can play without any crashes at all.

Due to the graphic nature of this post, reader discretion is advised.
lspdfrsig2njsuy.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Very nice answers, Thanks to all. I guess my sysem is fine with cpu I7 2.80 Ghz with 8 GB of ram and gforce gt275. I nearly play all settings at top. But I now understand the idea and try them all. I'll write again when I get a better result.

Composer & Sound Designer Team Leader, Music & Sound Production Dept. SEBIT LLC.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I use V5. I get what might appear to be an ELS related crash once in a great while. The game usually becomes unplayable once the arrest button stops working. That usually happens long before I get the crash to desktop issue.

Tips/Donate: u.gamecaster.com/unr3al
Twitch Channel: Twitch.tv/unr3al_twitch
YouTube Channel: YouTube.com/unr3algaming
Twitter: @unr3alofficial

Link to comment
Share on other sites

First of all, what I did was replace my Asi loader. I have ELS v6 and I was having crashes almost every time when i turned my lights on. Then I was using dsound asi loader.

Now what I did was replace the dsound with just xliveless. Since then I have had far less crashes. I know it takes away the online aspect of the game

but it greatly reduced the amount of crashes. Now I get the occasional crash but that's normal when having a lot of mods and ELS.

Second, as Break said it is best to have a police.wtd or police2.wtd non-ELS. I myself use modded cars for al my police vehicles but police.wtd is a non-ELS car. This indeed

greatly reduces chances of random crashes as a non-ELS car is far less demanding to spawn than a ELS car.

Hope this helps for you.

"Dura lex, sed lex"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I've installed LCPDFR, and then ELS v6 - without changing anything. My game would randomly crash on a WorldEvent in LCPDFR, which I think is unrelated to ELS, but I would have no issues with ELS - apart from the fact that the car is indestructable when lights are on. Doesn't matter much to me, I generally don't crash into things, so I'm not "missing" the damage.

I found that the crashes I had were lessened, if I reinstalled LCPDFR a few times over. But if that will help you - I dont know. :)

I also tested last night, and it seems both ELS v6 and LCPDFR works just fine in multiplayer - even playing with other players who do not have any of the mods. I could go on duty and use my modded cars. The only issue I believe was an inconsistency between when I had only lights on the ELS mod, and the fellow players then hearing a siren that wasn't enable. I can live with that :) During multiplayer I see many "Unrecoverable Fault" crashes though, but I'm not sure they are happening due to any of the mods, and when playing in freemode alone or with many different players, they don't happen - only with one particular player, which is an issue that has always pussled me about GTAiv - just as the weird issue where some particular players cannot join the same game for no apparent reason. They can join an identical game one at the time, but if one of the two players is there, the other can't join and vice versa. They can join each on their own though. That's right up there amongst the weirdest things ever. :p

My PC specs : Core i7 920 (2.66GHz), 6GB DDR3 Trippel channel RAM, nVidia 9800GT.

Generally I would say it works well for me - I still get the occassional crash, but as I understand it, almost everyone does, so that's not something I'm too concerned about. :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

This may be what's causing my crashes. It seems that my game only crashes when a random event occurs. (And the popup about the little white blimps comes up in the top left). I'll test out installing ELS V.5 and see if it makes a difference. Right now I have a customer police and noose car both ELS so it may be causing my game to be unstable.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.



×
×
  • Create New...