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Our English friends have just lost a great statesperson and leader today at the age of 87.  Great lady indeed.

 

RIP Margaret "The Iron Lady" Thatcher.

 

DrDetroit

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I am not british, but from what I've heard I wouldn't call her a great stateperson; during her mandate she cutted on many social expenditures, there were many worker strikes and shit. My mom visited England during her mandate, she says there was a lot of people begging on the streets... I guess that is what being the leader of the economic neoliberalism has... I don't want to a politic discussion now anyway.

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This is not a commentary on her ideology.  Many English probably didn't like her, many did like her.  She's dead and she was a English Stateswoman...whether you think she was great or not.

 

BTW:  Basic history lesson for some of you.  Socialism doesn't work.  Throughout history of the world,it has never worked and never will.  It goes against everything that is important to a human being...which is self interest and self reliance.  Every great human atrocity has been committed on behalf of the common good.  Theft of one's wealth is no different.

 

Good day,

 

DrDetroit



None of that matters anyhow, what matters is you don't call the Welch or Scottish English or the English Scottish or Welch.  And don't call the Irish English, Scottish or Welch...they will get pissed.  Does that sound right?

 

Good day,

DrDetroit

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This is not a commentary on her ideology.  Many English probably didn't like her, many did like her.  She's dead and she was a English Stateswoman...whether you think she was great or not.

 

BTW:  Basic history lesson for some of you.  Socialism doesn't work.  Throughout history of the world,it has never worked and never will.  It goes against everything that is important to a human being...which is self interest and self reliance.  Every great human atrocity has been committed on behalf of the common good.  Theft of one's wealth is no different.

 

Good day,

 

DrDetroit

None of that matters anyhow, what matters is you don't call the Welch or Scottish English or the English Scottish or Welch.  And don't call the Irish English, Scottish or Welch...they will get pissed.  Does that sound right?

 

Good day,

DrDetroit

 

That is completely right.

 

Don't call people from the United States Mexicans or Canadians

 

And don't call Texans New Yorkers, or Californians

 

Because that's what it's like to us.

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Sometimes we forget that Britain is an island (or series of islands) that consists of the English, Welch, Irish and Scottish sovereign countries.  Hope I didn't forget anybody.

 

DrDetroit

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To set the record straight, she was the prime minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain (England, Scotland & Wales) and Northern Ireland, not just England.  I'm not sure how many people here would admire her as being great.  She ruined the lives of thousands of people in Scotland with her right-wing agenda and to this day is loathed quite considerably throughout Scotland.  She deregulated the banks and the City of London (the financial square-mile in the centre of London) which maybe wasn't such a great move given the recent economic happenings and during her term, 1 in 5 people working in industry in Scotland and northern England were unemployed.  Hundreds of mines were shut down by her tax policy which had something like a 12% approval rating.

 

Thatcher's legacy at home was pretty awful in my opinion and for Scotland in particular, it was devastating.  Abroad, she had her finest moments with her courageous and commendable response to Argentina invading the Falkland Islands, sending thousands of British soldiers and military assets to forcefully reclaim the islands in a move which shocked the entire world.  No doubt she had a big role in stabilising the world during the Cold War, significantly contributing to its end and through her strong partnership with the US and Ronald Reagan, successfully convincing the Americans to communicate with Soviet reformer Mikhail Gorbachev which undoubtedly made the world a safer place.  Of course, she has some other achievements under her belt, the fall of the Berlin wall being one of many.

 

To many of the people of Britain though, particularly those without mansions and inheritance money, she might well be considered one of the worst Prime Ministers in recent history. 

 

 

Also, on an unrelated note, to clarify how the UK works:

 

United Kingdom (A sovereign state made up of four constituent countries) = England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

Great Britain (Not a country or state, just a group of countries) = England, Scotland and Wales

 

England is governed solely by the UK Parliament in London.

 

Scotland is governed through a process known as devolution through the Scottish Parliament here in Edinburgh on all matters except those which are reserved (such as national security, defence, taxation, certain aspects of internal affairs like immigration and foreign affairs)

 

Wales is governed through a process known as devolution through the Welsh Assembly in Cardiff on some matters (their assembly has considerably less power than the Scottish Parliament)

 

Northern Ireland is governed through a process known as devolution through the Northern Ireland Assembly in Belfast on most matters (their assembly has similar powers as the Scottish Parliament)

 

Ireland is an entirely separate sovereign state and country, it is not part of Britain or the UK.

 

 

 

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