1 minute ago, matthew3774 said:

Yeah I do get a bit tired of LSPDFR situations where everyone just starts shooting. It’s like if I wanted that I’d just play normal GTA

Same. Its what motivated me to start my own Callouts pack.

Well don't wanna be a d!ck, but the OP has a point.

I see through all the call outs from many different modders.

And Shoot outs terrorist and KEY here is multiple shooters at the same time is just RARE.

I don't see anyone with a decent one that is stable or not outdated,

Best in a pack of different locations.

 

Nobody has done that.

So don't blame him for being an impolite bastard.

I am currently working on a call out like this but it takes time to create a call out like this to be constantly good 

 

Greetings Chimotukikaari 

15 hours ago, Robo1 said:

So don't blame him for being an impolite bastard.

What a world we live in.

Where you don't get something for free, and that entitles you to be an 'impolite bastard'.

Needn't I say anymore.

 

4 hours ago, Charlie686 said:

Where you don't get something for free, and that entitles you to be an 'impolite bastard'.

I think you are TOTALLY missing the point. The OP was curious why there wasn't one made.

And I found out that he also found out, there were a few but outdated as F8ck!

Getting it for free was never the issue.

If there was one he might have paid.

But there simply isn't. 

 

I wondered why so at least I did search for him, instead of judging him wanting something for free!

I know that because they are just either hard to make or just not stable enough. All in all hard to make.

And of course nobody is dedicated enough to going in a endeavor into the abyss just for a fr!cking call out without success.  

7 hours ago, Chimotukikaari said:

I am currently working on a call out like this but it takes time to create a call out like this to be constantly good 

 

Greetings Chimotukikaari 

Good luck!

Since nobody even attempts, burning their hands or wasting their time, and they all say it easy to make blahblah.

They don't even look deep enough into the problem and instead only deliver mediocre crap.

Sometimes a GIF does a far better job than words can ever do.

 

5 hours ago, Charlie686 said:

Where you don't get something for free, and that entitles you to be an 'impolite bastard'.

Tbf, the overall issue wasnt that it was free or not. Its that they simply don't exist.

 

 

54 minutes ago, Robo1 said:

Since nobody even attempts, burning their hands or wasting their time, and they all say it easy to make blahblah.

They don't even look deep enough into the problem and instead only deliver mediocre crap

First part of the sentence kinda hits the nail on the head. Callouts take a sizeable amount of time to make. Vincentsgm had one in the making but it appears to be on hold. For the most part, it is easy to make, it is just very time consuming. SWAT Callouts more so than others as you need to properly set up all the peds and dialogue and choose locations for each one.

But in the world of GTA V modding, if someone wants something bad enough, its worth a point to teach yourself how to do said thing you want.

3 minutes ago, UnknownBastion said:

Tbf, the overall issue wasnt that it was free or not. Its that they simply don't exist.

The requests for callouts did not involve any financial remuneration. 

I'm highlighting the tone some people take over a service they have, and continue to receive, completely for free.

When so little in life is free, you'd hope there would be some appreciation.

Or - if nothing good, then nothing at all.

Resurrecting a 2 year-old thread and being generally inflammatory and argumentative? I think you guys might struggle to find any reasonable common ground here. 

Good luck!

2 minutes ago, Will1760 said:

Resurrecting a 2 year-old thread and being generally inflammatory and argumentative? I think you guys might struggle to find any reasonable common ground here. 

Good luck!

We can all agree that your profile picture is absolutely fantastic. 😂

 

Edit: he changed it. But, it was a beautiful '120p' lion.

Edited November 15, 20223 yr by Charlie686

5 minutes ago, Charlie686 said:

Edit: he changed it. But, it was a beautiful '120p' lion.

That 'beautiful' lion photo was taken on a school trip in 2015, hence making the photo older than 50% of this website. 

 

Edit: that makes me feel old now

Edited November 15, 20223 yr by Will1760

Still, without being off topic,

The OP might be an ass for choosing the wrong way of asking something by curiosity.

 

AND I stumbled upon this thread, I have to say, what he asked is not because he likes to tease you devs.

But he is just stating the facts as I said earlier. And I can confirm by searching it, so can you.

There simply is none updated out there!

 

It is more like the repliers are more toxic than the OP is.

By saying Then doing yourself or it is easy! we are not your slave etc.

 

If it was that easy, than we would all having Fricking call out of drug bust in an abandoned factory vs 20+ criminals with Clarence Bodicker as the guy to Arrest. Or attempting a rape by two thugs, while I can prevent that by shooting on their groin!

And the reality is no. instead we get a F8ck load of call outs like ONE ARMED SUSPECT everytime, and Highway pursuits that always lead you to chase them out of town to the country sides!   

 

I don't know who is actually the hater, The guy simply say if the great modder that CAN do it tells him how or done it can update it, he probably wouldn't ask those less talented mediocre modders for sh!t. 

 

On 11/14/2022 at 3:46 PM, Robo1 said:

Well don't wanna be a d!ck, but the OP has a point.

I see through all the call outs from many different modders.

And Shoot outs terrorist and KEY here is multiple shooters at the same time is just RARE.

I don't see anyone with a decent one that is stable or not outdated,

Best in a pack of different locations.

 

Nobody has done that.

So don't blame him for being an impolite bastard.

 

6 hours ago, Robo1 said:

Still, without being off topic,

The OP might be an ass for choosing the wrong way of asking something by curiosity.

 

AND I stumbled upon this thread, I have to say, what he asked is not because he likes to tease you devs.

But he is just stating the facts as I said earlier. And I can confirm by searching it, so can you.

There simply is none updated out there!

 

It is more like the repliers are more toxic than the OP is.

By saying Then doing yourself or it is easy! we are not your slave etc.

 

If it was that easy, than we would all having Fricking call out of drug bust in an abandoned factory vs 20+ criminals with Clarence Bodicker as the guy to Arrest. Or attempting a rape by two thugs, while I can prevent that by shooting on their groin!

And the reality is no. instead we get a F8ck load of call outs like ONE ARMED SUSPECT everytime, and Highway pursuits that always lead you to chase them out of town to the country sides!   

 

I don't know who is actually the hater, The guy simply say if the great modder that CAN do it tells him how or done it can update it, he probably wouldn't ask those less talented mediocre modders for sh!t. 

 

 

Idk why everyone acts like there is no big callouts that have multiple suspects. My pack alone has 6 big swat related callouts, as well as multiple minor ones with 2 or 3 suspects. In total like 30 callouts with 60 or so scenarios. The are other packs by others as well which have a bunch.

 

And no, it's not outdated or unstable, and yes It has been done. Not sure why you say no one has done it.

 

 

The key thing here is that I do it for fun, and the enjoyment of others. You all are really coming off as rude, and I don't understand how you can be hostile over the fact that there isn't MORE right now. If you are unhappy with the work modders have already put in, then we offer full refunds.

 

 

Tldr; You both claim none are up to date or stable, but multiple packs are. 

Edited November 16, 20223 yr by SuperPyroManiac

First of all the OP says SWAT/GANG/TERRORIST related callouts.

We have to break it down for ya.

4 hours ago, SuperPyroManiac said:

My pack alone has 6 big swat related callouts, as well as multiple minor ones with 2 or 3 suspects. In total like 30 callouts with 60 or so scenarios. The are other packs by others as well which have a bunch.

So you are Only fullfilling one criteria of his.

4 hours ago, SuperPyroManiac said:

And Shoot outs terrorist and KEY here is multiple shooters at the same time is just RARE.

I don't see anyone with a decent one that is stable or not outdated,

Best in a pack of different locations.

Out of these six none are with terrorist, since they are mafia, I played so I know.

Out of these, only 2 in downtown are really good the Casino and Harbor were the most entertaining, thank you!

But they are not a call out of different locations, we are expecting the sort of kind of call out able to spawn randomly, but instead it is everytime the same location! So it stays at only 2 in downtown. WE want in different areas, and the random call out hardly spawns this anytime soon!

4 hours ago, SuperPyroManiac said:

If it was that easy, than we would all having Fricking call out of drug bust in an abandoned factory vs 20+ criminals with Clarence Bodicker as the guy to Arrest. Or attempting a rape by two thugs, while I can prevent that by shooting on their groin!

And the reality is no. instead we get a F8ck load of call outs like ONE ARMED SUSPECT everytime, and Highway pursuits that always lead you to chase them out of town to the country sides! 

I don't see in any call out we are able to go into building or interior busting 20+criminals!

Come on, even if we can't go in buildings, at least be outside in a secluded area with 10+ gangmembers vs 10terrorist making a drugdeal. Don't see it.

Relevance is key here,A few years back a gangwar mod was out there. lets you choose your sides and blast them out here. But it has no purpose of arresting only killing 20+thugs for no reason.

Atleast make call outs that does have 20+ thugs that have a reason to stay there to defend the drugs scenario. 

4 hours ago, SuperPyroManiac said:

The key thing here is that all of this is free. I've made about 5 dollars in total from donations in the what, 3 years now? I do it for fun, and the enjoyment of others. You all are really coming off as rude, and I don't understand how you can be hostile over the fact that there isn't MORE right now.

Well if you could make ONE call out with the criteria different random locations I would donate you 5 dollars.

We don't want more, the criteria was never ever met!

4 hours ago, SuperPyroManiac said:

There are limitations of what can be done without breaking everything. 

I understand, that is why the OP and myself would appreciate special call outs made because of out of the box thinking and not just easy copy paste call outs.

 

To summarize, yes you did make a few SWAT related call outs, they are very entertaining, I see the work in it and it is good, no doubt!

But still it is not even close to what it is like in the past outdated call outs and a the gangwar shooting experience!

Nothing Grand of 20+men and same location everytime, and all this in so many years, come on.

only 1/3 met and and same locations with no randomness whatsoever.

Edited November 16, 20223 yr by Robo1
forgot a quote

It truly sucks when developers, whether they be vehicle devs or plugin devs, stop doing public uploads, and/or distance themselves from the LSPDFR community. However, when you read threads like this, it becomes obvious why. The amount of entitlement that a lot of these idiots have is INSANE. Even the guy above me. "You made a decent pack Pyro, but you can do better. You can appease me and my needs and everything I want."

 

Y'all, shut the fuck up and sit down. You are not entitled to anything, nor are you owed anything. The people who make mods do it FOR FREE ON THEIR OWN FUCKING TIME. Are you willing to commission a "proper" SWAT pack? No? Are you a cheap ass? Yes. There's your answer, you get nothing.

 

What's sad is, had the OP not been a cunt in his message, I'm sure a developer would have been more open to discussing this seriously and seeing what the person wanted. but no, dumb kids think developers exist to make what you want.

Edited November 16, 20223 yr by Reddington

On 11/15/2022 at 9:57 PM, Robo1 said:

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Point 1: No terrorism.
Frankly it depends on the meaning. Mafia with a bomb downtown? Seems like terrorism to me. Regardless there isn't many assets or anything in game to make a realistic, let alone would the average PD even be handling that. Fair enough though.

Point 2: Random locations.
In coding you have to assign each position and keep track of all of it. Even with the calls where there are 9 peds and 4 or so vehicles, that's a lot of positions and headings to fine tune. It would take actual weeks to get multiple locations and even then it would only be a few. The amount of work it takes for that would be more than just making another callout instead. As a dev you have to manually go out and collect locations, and headings. Even with my callouts not having 20+ peds it gets fucking massive to manage.

 

Like maybe it doesn't look like much to you but for every one of those items, I have to create it, make sure it doesn't despawn or do something stupid, have the correct locations, have the correct headings, set their weapons and clothing (a hell of a task on its own) and much more.

Tldr; It's a massive undertaking to have multiple spawn points for calls this big.

 

Point 3: Interiors.

I tried. They are buggy and terrible with LSPDFR. End up with random crashes, bad AI, no backup, and often some softlocks in the game. Interiors are terrible in LSPDFR.

 

Point 4: Not enough peds.

Spawn 20 backup units. (Hint: Game crashes)

The game can only handle so much, as well as lower end PC's will do a die when they are handling so much AI movement. GTAV is not optimized for huge groups of peds, vehicles, and things. Use custom skins, peds, cars? You now have even less room before the game either runs out of memory and has texture loss, or crashes.

 

Point 5: Copy pasta callouts.

Nah you are just rude. I spent weeks of my time making this stuff and you claim it's just copy paste callouts. 

 

 

 

 

You don't appreciate the time we spend making plugins and mods free of charge. You demand things like we are just lazy when in reality the game has limits we have to follow, and as a modder that works full time in another field I cannot find the time to make Tripple A quality missions.

 

You lot are entitled, rude, and unappreciative. Go play something else because clearly, we can't make you happy.

 

Right sorry for the rant but I was a bit upset with how rude you can be. Seriously, look at how you sound. "You provide free mods, cool, but they're shit do better"
That's how it sounds. Really rude.

Edited November 17, 20223 yr by SuperPyroManiac

8 hours ago, SuperPyroManiac said:

"You provide free mods, cool, but they're shit do better"
That's how it sounds. Really rude.

Well if something sounds, smells feels or looks like sh!t, it probably is.

 

BUT, REMEMBER!!! I never said that, SO don't put it that I've said that.

What you think is your problem! don't quote me on that and assume, cause I've never said THAT

NOW that is RUDE!

 

8 hours ago, SuperPyroManiac said:

Nah you are just rude. I spent weeks of my time making this stuff and you claim it's just copy paste callouts. 

No, that is not what I said, and if you feel that way, how come?

I just clarify that the OP and me don't appreciate a lot of copy pasta, but it was not never directed to you at the time of writing!  you weren't even in the discussion.

 

8 hours ago, SuperPyroManiac said:

In coding you have to assign each position and keep track of all of it. Even with the calls where there are 9 peds and 4 or so vehicles, that's a lot of positions and headings to fine tune. It would take actual weeks to get multiple locations and even then it would only be a few. The amount of work it takes for that would be more than just making another callout instead. As a dev you have to manually go out and collect locations, and headings. Even with my callouts not having 20+ peds it gets fucking massive to manage.

 

Like maybe it doesn't look like much to you but for every one of those items, I have to create it, make sure it doesn't despawn or do something stupid, have the correct locations, have the correct headings, set their weapons and clothing (a hell of a task on its own) and much more.

Tldr; It's a massive undertaking to have multiple spawn points for calls this big.

Well sh!t, so finally a ''respected'' modder finally admits that it ain't a walk in the park to make, right.

But somehow all the assholes here always keep saying it's done in 10min!

 

8 hours ago, SuperPyroManiac said:

I tried. They are buggy and terrible with LSPDFR. End up with random crashes, bad AI, no backup, and often some softlocks in the game. Interiors are terrible in LSPDFR.

 

Point 4: Not enough peds.

Spawn 20 backup units. (Hint: Game crashes)

The game can only handle so much, as well as lower end PC's will do a die when they are handling so much AI movement. GTAV is not optimized for huge groups of peds, vehicles, and things. Use custom skins, peds, cars? You now have even less room before the game either runs out of memory and has texture loss, or crashes.

OK then just as I said nobody can make the 20+ criminals cause it simply buggy and out of memory

But nobody dares to or even say that.

 

PS: I am a modder too, but to know that nobody admits what the limitations are, just bugs me!

They keep saying do it yourselves, do it youselves!

Don't think I wouldn't have tried that, but maybe there better devs here, but it seems modders here are overestimated too. 

I think the discussion can finally end!

 

So long hypocrites!

Edited November 17, 20223 yr by Robo1

are there callout packs out there to pay which are also good or well known?

the only callouts i know are on the lspdfr website for free, but the ability to donate

Edited November 17, 20223 yr by OfficerChris1