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Fatal Police Shooting Sparks Unrest

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Give this man a medal

He's got a uniform on, even better.

You literally missed the entire point of the movement.

If the same people involved with this "movement" are the same people that think it's OK to block motorists on the interstate, then that's a movement that I don't want to be a part of. I'm all for protesting police brutality and equality among all people, but blocking Americans that have nothing to do with anything from commuting to and from work isn't the way to do it, and I'm glad a few of them almost got hit. I would have probably drove through the block as well, I wouldn't have tried to kill anyone, but I definitely would have had a few people on my hood.

They were chanting, "This is what democracy looks like". If that's truly what democracy looks like, I may have to rethink what I'd prefer.

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You literally missed the entire point of the movement.

What a load of baloney, the movement states that only black lives matter and not others, they think that since blacks are the ones being killed the most, it's racist and the whole revolves around how black people are being mistreated and that their lives matter the most. Let's just forget the constant bullying problem we have here in U.S schools, nope just black people that were shot in "unjustified" shootings. 

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"I'm a marked man, so I'm getting out of here"

 

Ray Machowski

What a load of baloney, the movement states that only black lives matter and not others, they think that since blacks are the ones being killed the most, it's racist and the whole revolves around how black people are being mistreated and that their lives matter the most. Let's just forget the constant bullying problem we have here in U.S schools, nope just black people matter. 

Black on black killings are more of a problem than police on black shootings(unarmed specifically) imo. I don't see black lives matter protesting it, even though more people are dying from it, especially kids.

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If the same people involved with this "movement" are the same people that think it's OK to block motorists on the interstate, then that's a movement that I don't want to be a part of.  

Then don't join it.

 and I'm glad a few of them almost got hit. I would have probably drove through the block as well, I wouldn't have tried to kill anyone, but I definitely would have had a few people on my hood.

Well, that certainly says a lot.

They were chanting, "This is what democracy looks like". If that's truly what democracy looks like, I may have to rethink what I'd prefer.

You probably should.

What a load of baloney, the movement states that only black lives matter and not others, they think that since blacks are the ones being killed the most, it's racist and the whole revolves around how black people are being mistreated and that their lives matter the most. Let's just forget the constant bullying problem we have here in U.S schools, nope just black people that were shot in "unjustified" shootings. 

No, they don't state that. You missed the entire point of the movement. Lets travel back in time to the 1960s, shall we?

The Black Lives Matter movement is incredibly similar to a phrase used by civil rights activists, called "I am a man".

http://41.media.tumblr.com/9333141784118aa5555e9bf54684321d/tumblr_ml01xlvz291rw872io4_1280.jpg

http://36.media.tumblr.com/02778deb3d347eb04f72fc4bab6d99dc/tumblr_ml01xlvz291rw872io5_540.jpg

The reason they did this protest is because they were being treated as if they weren't men, or human beings. They weren't saying "I am a man" to say that white people aren't men. Now, Black Lives Matter use that slogan because they're being treated as if their lives don't matter. They're not saying that white lives don't matter, or that their lives are more important. Nothing against you and DivineHustle, but you guys are literally missing the entire point of the movement. 

 

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Then don't join it.

Well, that certainly says a lot.

You probably should.

Which is exactly why I'm against the movement. I spit on their purpose, because their purpose doesn't make sense and it's blatantly ignorant. The power of the media is truly frightening. It's hard to take such a movement seriously when there are people within that movement that think "All police are racist". It's just stupid. This is one of the very few political topics that I have no respect for the opposing side. It just doesn't make any sense. None at all.

Yes, it does say a lot. It says that I'm not going to be prisoner to a bunch of stupid cop-haters that think it's OK to block the interstate, there's not even any argument in that. It's just retarded, regardless of what you're trying to protest or support. It's just dumb, and inconsiderate. I absolutely would have broken through the line, and I wouldn't have any problem going to sleep that same night. If you want to protest then that's fine you have that right; but you don't have the right to block the interstate and cause people to be late.

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Which is exactly why I'm against the movement. I spit on their purpose, because their purpose doesn't make sense and it's blatantly ignorant. The power of the media is truly frightening. It's hard to take such a movement seriously when there are people within that movement that think "All police are racist". It's just stupid. This is one of the very few political topics that I have no respect for the opposing side. It just doesn't make any sense. None at all.

Why do you hate people who are mistreated by police so much? 

Yes, it does say a lot. It says that I'm not going to be prisoner to a bunch of stupid cop-haters that think it's OK to block the interstate, there's not even any argument in that. It's just retarded, regardless of what you're trying to protest or support. It's just dumb, and inconsiderate. I absolutely would have broken through the line, and I wouldn't have any problem going to sleep that same night. If you want to protest then that's fine you have that right; but you don't have the right to block the interstate and cause people to be late.

Please keep talking. You're talking about how you would try to murder people by running them over on an interstate. Not only that, but you're not showing any remorse. This is a textbook case of psychopathic behavior.

The suspect had a gun, why people protest the kid's shooting idk, if they didn't like it then I wonder how they would feel if their town turned into places like Chicago or Detroit or even Baltimore, you know Baltimore in May of last year had 43 homicides alone for that month... When the people are in danger they scream for police to help dialing 911, but when the police act in a manner that follows the color of law and duty as well as protect self and others the people scream and complain.

Where was the outrage from the 'people' and the 'protesters' when this happened (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/11/ryan-bolinger-des-moines-police_n_7560874.html) ... I hate how the media skews the news and a published article said Ferguson recently talked about the increasing flow of warrants after the FBI investigation concluded seemingly 'targeting' ethnic minorities. When I did my research I found that in that city accordingly to the U.S. Census the minorities outweighed the Caucasian population significantly by more than 

Population by Race - U.S. Census 2010 of the City of Ferguson, MI

White - 6,206 vs minorities 14,997 that means if you were to subtract them out you still have 8,791 more minority individuals living in Ferguson. Therefore, it wouldn't be uncommon to have police have more interaction with ethnic minorities in that area versus the Caucasian population... The police department really doesn't have much choice but to deal with the individuals in the city that they serve and shouldn't be scrutinized by racial discrimination too overly excessive given the census population discussed earlier... Their chances of individual interaction by minorities are going to be higher than if you have a department in some remote North Dakota city or a New England area city where racial demographics are going to be different.

Lastly, let not forget that even though the U.S. Civil War concluded a long time ago, and people have spread out since then, consider the fact that a majority of minority rooted families are still entrenched in much of the lower 48 states of the union therefore law enforcement would be at a slight disadvantage due to many of the ethnic populations that live in the lower 48 or southern states. This is purely just opinion however, in any case stronger emphasis should be placed on strengthening education regarding ethnic minorities and how to interact with them as well as enhance community policing to build bridges and relationships with the people in the neighborhood's, again, just my opinion.

Where was the outrage from the 'people' and the 'protesters' when this happened (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/11/ryan-bolinger-des-moines-police_n_7560874.html) ... I hate how the media skews the news and a published article said Ferguson recently talked about the increasing flow of warrants after the FBI investigation concluded seemingly 'targeting' ethnic minorities. When I did my research I found that in that city accordingly to the U.S. Census the minorities outweighed the Caucasian population significantly by more than 

Because there isn't a history of discrimination of white people. We've been at the top of the social ladder ever since the country was formed (see: white privilege).

White - 6,206 vs minorities 14,997 that means if you were to subtract them out you still have 8,791 more minority individuals living in Ferguson. Therefore, it wouldn't be uncommon to have police have more interaction with ethnic minorities in that area versus the Caucasian population... The police department really doesn't have much choice but to deal with the individuals in the city that they serve and shouldn't be scrutinized by racial discrimination too overly excessive given the census population discussed earlier... Their chances of individual interaction by minorities are going to be higher than if you have a department in some remote North Dakota city or a New England area city where racial demographics are going to be different.

What about the racial makeup of the officers, and how its not nearly proportionate to the community? And the racist emails.

And just because a minority group makes up for the majority of the community, does not mean that the police just happen to interact with them more. Ferguson is a textbook case of racially biased policing.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/03/04/the-12-key-highlights-from-the-dojs-scathing-ferguson-report/

 

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Why do you hate people who are mistreated by police so much? 

Please keep talking. You're talking about how you would try to murder people by running them over on an interstate. Not only that, but you're not showing any remorse. This is a textbook case of psychopathic behavior.

I don't hate people that are mistreated by the police, I've never heard of anyone hating as a result of that. I hate people that think blocking a busy interstate will prove their point. It doesn't, and it's annoying as hell to everyone else. 

If you had actually paid any attention, which I've found to conclude that you very rarely do, you would have seen how I mentioned that I wouldn't have attempted to KILL anyone. Yes, I would have broken the line and maybe even caused a few people to roll off of my car, but I wouldn't slam on the accelerator and murder innocent people; even if they're stupid people. Everyone has the right to assembly and protest, but blocking the interstate isn't a right. It's illegal, and I'm glad the police slammed that guy in the video and took him in. Running down the highway chanting "this is what democracy looks like". What a joke.  I'm not going to sit on the interstate for hours while idiots line up across the road to protest stupid stuff. That's not how I roll. Get out of the street or you might just get hit is how I see it, and it's what I (and most other motorists) live by.

I don't appreciate you implying that I'm a psycho, especially when you don't even really know what you're talking about. 

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Because there isn't a history of discrimination of white people. We've been at the top of the social ladder ever since the country was formed (see: white privilege).

What about the racial makeup of the officers, and how its not nearly proportionate to the community? And the racist emails.

And just because a minority group makes up for the majority of the community, does not mean that the police just happen to interact with them more. Ferguson is a textbook case of racially biased policing.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/03/04/the-12-key-highlights-from-the-dojs-scathing-ferguson-report/

 

 

I'm on board 100% with you. You're going to have a few bad apples in the bunch, but I'd like to think there are those who out in the community that they live in wanting to do an honest career in policing, and end up having to face the environment they're in.

 

No, they don't state that. You missed the entire point of the movement. Lets travel back in time to the 1960s, shall we?

The Black Lives Matter movement is incredibly similar to a phrase used by civil rights activists, called "I am a man".

http://41.media.tumblr.com/9333141784118aa5555e9bf54684321d/tumblr_ml01xlvz291rw872io4_1280.jpg

http://36.media.tumblr.com/02778deb3d347eb04f72fc4bab6d99dc/tumblr_ml01xlvz291rw872io5_540.jpg

The reason they did this protest is because they were being treated as if they weren't men, or human beings. They weren't saying "I am a man" to say that white people aren't men. Now, Black Lives Matter use that slogan because they're being treated as if their lives don't matter. They're not saying that white lives don't matter, or that their lives are more important. Nothing against you and DivineHustle, but you guys are literally missing the entire point of the movement. 

 Yeah cause tumblr is a totally reliable source, still doesn't make sense to me, and yes the blacklivesmatter movement is only pointing towards black people, it was only started after George Zimmerman was not convicted of murder, also it really seems that you're okay with people blocking the interstate highway just to make a point, are you? 

"I'm a marked man, so I'm getting out of here"

 

Ray Machowski

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 Yeah cause tumblr is a totally reliable source, still doesn't make sense to me, and yes the blacklivesmatter movement is only pointing towards black people, it was only started after George Zimmerman was not convicted of murder, also it really seems that you're okay with people blocking the interstate highway just to make a point, are you? 

I'm black and I'm not a part of the black lives after movement. 

I don't hate people that are mistreated by the police, I've never heard of anyone hating as a result of that. I hate people that think blocking a busy interstate will prove their point. It doesn't, and it's annoying as hell to everyone else. 

"Which is exactly why I'm against the movement. I spit on their purpose, because their purpose doesn't make sense and it's blatantly ignorant. The power of the media is truly frightening. It's hard to take such a movement seriously when there are people within that movement that think "All police are racist". It's just stupid. This is one of the very few political topics that I have no respect for the opposing side. It just doesn't make any sense. None at all."

You weren't talking about interstates. You were talking about the movement.

If you had actually paid any attention, which I've found to conclude that you very rarely do, you would have seen how I mentioned that I wouldn't have attempted to KILL anyone. Yes, I would have broken the line and maybe even caused a few people to roll off of my car, but I wouldn't slam on the accelerator and murder innocent people; even if they're stupid people. Everyone has the right to assembly and protest, but blocking the interstate isn't a right. It's illegal, and I'm glad the police slammed that guy in the video and took him in. Running down the highway chanting "this is what democracy looks like". What a joke.  I'm not going to sit on the interstate for hours while idiots line up across the road to protest stupid stuff. That's not how I roll. Get out of the street or you might just get hit is how I see it, and it's what I (and most other motorists) live by.

 

So deciding to run people over isn't attempted murder? At the very least its manslaughter, if my basic legal knowledge is adequate. 

Yes, I would have broken the line and maybe even caused a few people to roll off of my car,

I love that you say that as if its perfectly reasonable.

I don't appreciate you implying that I'm a psycho, especially when you don't even really know what you're talking about. 

What happened? I thought you were against political correctness? I'm not very politically correct, I just call it like I see it. 

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"Which is exactly why I'm against the movement. I spit on their purpose, because their purpose doesn't make sense and it's blatantly ignorant. The power of the media is truly frightening. It's hard to take such a movement seriously when there are people within that movement that think "All police are racist". It's just stupid. This is one of the very few political topics that I have no respect for the opposing side. It just doesn't make any sense. None at all."

You weren't talking about interstates. You were talking about the movement.

So deciding to run people over isn't attempted murder? At the very least its manslaughter, if my basic legal knowledge is adequate. 

I love that you say that as if its perfectly reasonable.

What happened? I thought you were against political correctness? I'm not very politically correct, I just call it like I see it. 

You're just turning this into something it really doesn't need to be. That's why I've always ignored your posts in political topics like this. You misunderstand what I say and twist my words to make me seem crazy. That's someone I would prefer not to debate with. If you disagree with my views and opinions that's perfectly fine, but you never seem to actually understand what I'm saying. Everyone else here did. 

 Yeah cause tumblr is a totally reliable source, still doesn't make sense to me, 

Did you click on the links? They're just pictures...of a real protest that actually happened. And did you not understand my explanation, whats stopping it from making sense?

and yes the blacklivesmatter movement is only pointing towards black people, it was only started after George Zimmerman was not convicted of murder,

You're missing the point. If you were at the "I am a man" protests, you would've been the guy shouting "WHITE PEOPLE ARE MEN TOO". You're missing the point, man. Its not that white people aren't men, or white lives don't matter. Its that black people are being treated in a way that's as if their lives don't matter to the police. Their movement has nothing to do with the value of other lives because other lives aren't being treated the same way (at least in their perspective). 

 also it really seems that you're okay with people blocking the interstate highway just to make a point, are you? 

Am I OK with civil disobedience? Yeah, if the grievance is valid. I understand why they were arrested and so do they. Almost every single successful non-violent political movement  has used civil disobedience, this is nothing new. I'm more angry about the conduct of the Ferguson Police that lead to these protests than the actual protests themselves.

You're just turning this into something it really doesn't need to be. That's why I've always ignored your posts in political topics like this. You misunderstand what I say and twist my words to make me seem crazy. That's someone I would prefer not to debate with. If you disagree with my views and opinions that's perfectly fine, but you never seem to actually understand what I'm saying. Everyone else here did. 

You said you would run people over (but try not to kill them) and sleep perfectly fine. How am I twisting your words? Please explain that to me.

 
Did you click on the links? They're just pictures...of a real protest that actually happened. And did you not understand my explanation, whats stopping it from making sense?

You're missing the point. If you were at the "I am a man" protests, you would've been the guy shouting "WHITE PEOPLE ARE MEN TOO". You're missing the point, man. Its not that white people aren't men, or white lives don't matter. Its that black people are being treated in a way that's as if their lives don't matter to the police. Their movement has nothing to do with the value of other lives because other lives aren't being treated the same way (at least in their perspective). 

Am I OK with civil disobedience? Yeah, if the grievance is valid. I understand why they were arrested and so do they. Almost every single successful non-violent political movement  has used civil disobedience, this is nothing new. I'm more angry about the conduct of the Ferguson Police that lead to these protests than the actual protests themselves.

 

You said you would run people over (but try not to kill them) and sleep perfectly fine. How am I twisting your words? Please explain that to me.

You know what, I'm done debating with you, the website it self says that the movement was created in 2012, you're just trying to twist words and make their movement not seem prejudice (which it is), All lives matter! Also that is not civil disobedience, that just stupidity, idiots blocking others from going to work and feeding their families, heaven forbid they have to go see a loved one. 

"I'm a marked man, so I'm getting out of here"

 

Ray Machowski

You know what, I'm done debating with you, the website it self says that the movement was created in 2012, you're just trying to twist words and make their movement not seem prejudice (which it is), All lives matter! Also that is not civil disobedience, that just stupidity, idiots blocking others from going to work and feeding their families, heaven forbid they have to go see a loved one. 

Why does the year it was created matter? I was showing similarities between the civil rights movement and the Black Lives Matter movement. You're still missing the point.

Black lives matter has nothing to do with whether or not white lives matter, because historically and generally, white people are not treated the same by the justice system as black people are. They exist because black people are being treated as if their lives do not matter. Just like the civil rights movement, they are reminding us of their humanity. That is not prejudice, its literally the opposite.

And it is literally civil disobedience. For something to be civil disobedience, you don't have to agree with it or think its legitimate. That doesn't change its classification.

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Did you click on the links? They're just pictures...of a real protest that actually happened. And did you not understand my explanation, whats stopping it from making sense?

You're missing the point. If you were at the "I am a man" protests, you would've been the guy shouting "WHITE PEOPLE ARE MEN TOO". You're missing the point, man. Its not that white people aren't men, or white lives don't matter. Its that black people are being treated in a way that's as if their lives don't matter to the police. Their movement has nothing to do with the value of other lives because other lives aren't being treated the same way (at least in their perspective). 

Am I OK with civil disobedience? Yeah, if the grievance is valid. I understand why they were arrested and so do they. Almost every single successful non-violent political movement  has used civil disobedience, this is nothing new. I'm more angry about the conduct of the Ferguson Police that lead to these protests than the actual protests themselves.

 

You said you would run people over (but try not to kill them) and sleep perfectly fine. How am I twisting your words? Please explain that to me.

I said I would drive through the line and if they don't move from in front of the car, they could end up being shoved out of the way or falling forward onto the hood of my car. And yes, I'd turn over and have a good nights rest later that evening. People decided that blocking a major interstate was a good idea, and I defied their act civil disobedience. A win/win situation in my eyes. I support anti-police brutality protests, but standing in the middle of the street and making people late isn't acceptable. Glad they got charged and arrested.

It's very hard for me to take anyone seriously that thinks standing on the interstate is a good idea.

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