While I can agree that education is an important topic to discuss, simply linking a Youtube link isn't enough to warrant a good topic in a forum. Please avoid that in the future.

On to the video: Lol. America is such a lovely country at times, isn't it? I am glad I live in a developed country where our education system works :P

I was just going to say that, lol. Tell me, do they have sex or martial arts education at the high schools? Just curious

I was just going to say that, lol. Tell me, do they have sex or martial arts education at the high schools? Just curious

Sex ed, yes, has been for as long as I can remember. Martial arts, no. No gun training either. We don't run around with guns. If you want to try martial arts, there are schools for that where you can train :) 

Who says that school is supposed to prepare you for life? Yes, it does do some of that but that should be the responsibility of the parents. School cannot possibly teach you everything you need to know, some of it you just need to learn for yourself. I can tell whoever made this is probably either a senior in high school or just graduated, he thought that since he is done or almost done with high school he should now know everything and get hired by the perfect employer but something happened and he realized he doesn't know shit and/or didn't get the job he wanted and now he feels cheated. School is supposed to prepare you to go learn a job skill and/or move onto higher education. When you go and learn to be a mechanic or EMT or any other job there are simple things like math, English, science that you will need to know; that is what school is preparing you for.

The argument of this video isn't that high school doesn't prepare you for life, it's that high school doesn't teach you anything valuable that you'll need to be successful in life. While these arguments are similar, they are not the same. If you learn life skills in school, why is it that after 13 years, you're barely educated and skilled enough to flip burgers at McDonald's? Why is another minimum of two years in higher education required to be eligible for a high paying job? Why didn't I learn these world necessities in high school? Why am I learning how to simplify 3x+-4(4x-3)=20x+7, when I should be learning how to operate a checking account, how to rent a home, how to make car payments, how to pay taxes, how to write a check? Teachers are always dumbstruck when students say, "When will I ever need this? Why do I need to know this? How is this going to help me in life?". It won't help you in life. You don't need to know the information, and you probably won't ever need it. An easy example would be Chemistry. Yet another day has passed, and I haven't used anything Chemistry related once.

 

Also, I notice that you say depending on your job, certain classes will suffice. This isn't always the case. Math, English, and Science may help educate students that prefer to become mechanics or EMT, that is correct; but what about students that don't want those jobs? They are being forced to take these classes, and they don't need them to be successful. Whether or not high school prepares you for life is an opinion when it comes to American education. The education system is broken, it works for some, doesn't for most.

While I can agree that education is an important topic to discuss, simply linking a Youtube link isn't enough to warrant a good topic in a forum. Please avoid that in the future.

 

On to the video: Lol. America is such a lovely country at times, isn't it? I am glad I live in a developed country where our education system works :P

America is always a lovely country. The people running it and their blatant incompetence are the problem.

Edited November 22, 201411 yr by CriminalKillaz

Anyways, I think I have said this before, but whatever, even though some classes at my school won't help me for my career, I have a right to get an education and I happen to love learning, so what if chemistry won't help me get real life skills, I still like it. :)

Here is my school schedule for those who are interested:

1a. Math models

2a. English three

3. SAT prep

4a. Art class

5a. Psychology

1b. Chemistry

2b. U.S History

4b.AFJROTC

5b. Spanish 2

The argument of this video isn't that high school doesn't prepare you for life, it's that high school doesn't teach you anything valuable that you'll need to be successful in life. While these arguments are similar, they are not the same. If you learn life skills in school, why is it that after 13 years, you're barely educated and skilled enough to flip burgers at McDonald's? Why is another minimum of two years in higher education required to be eligible for a high paying job? Why didn't I learn these world necessities in high school? Why am I learning how to simplify 3x+-4(4x-3)=20x+7, when I should be learning how to operate a checking account, how to rent a home, how to make car payments, how to pay taxes, how to write a check? Teachers are always dumbstruck when students say, "When will I ever need this? Why do I need to know this? How is this going to help me in life?". It won't help you in life. You don't need to know the information, and you probably won't ever need it. An easy example would be Chemistry. Yet another day has passed, and I haven't used anything Chemistry related once.

 

Also, I notice that you say depending on your job, certain classes will suffice. This isn't always the case. Math, English, and Science may help educate students that prefer to become mechanics or EMT, that is correct; but what about students that don't want those jobs? They are being forced to take these classes, and they don't need them to be successful. Whether or not high school prepares you for life is an opinion when it comes to American education. The education system is broken, it works for some, doesn't for most.

That is where people are wrong. I have used or could have used more stuff that I learned in high school and/or college in the real world than I thought. Sure, there is some stuff that I have never needed to use (at least not yet), but part of it is just having the knowledge. I can't think of very many jobs that don't use at least a little bit of everything.

 

I'll use law enforcement as an example since most people here are interested in LE and/or want to pursue a career in it. English is a pretty obvious one, every police officer writes tons of reports and having a well written report could make the difference when that case goes to court. Math, traffic crash investigations (even basic ones) require lots of math. Science, unless you work for a really big agency with lots of resources (even if you do) you will need to know some basic science behind forensic investigations. Knowing why you process certain fingerprints one way but other fingerprints a different way. Not to mention that when people don't know what to do or who can help them they call the police so having at least a little bit of knowledge in as many areas as possible will help you in so many ways even if at the time it seems like something insignificant.

That is where people are wrong. I have used or could have used more stuff that I learned in high school and/or college in the real world than I thought. Sure, there is some stuff that I have never needed to use (at least not yet), but part of it is just having the knowledge. I can't think of very many jobs that don't use at least a little bit of everything.

 

I'll use law enforcement as an example since most people here are interested in LE and/or want to pursue a career in it. English is a pretty obvious one, every police officer writes tons of reports and having a well written report could make the difference when that case goes to court. Math, traffic crash investigations (even basic ones) require lots of math. Science, unless you work for a really big agency with lots of resources (even if you do) you will need to know some basic science behind forensic investigations. Knowing why you process certain fingerprints one way but other fingerprints a different way. Not to mention that when people don't know what to do or who can help them they call the police so having at least a little bit of knowledge in as many areas as possible will help you in so many ways even if at the time it seems like something insignificant.

I do agree that you use the basics of education, but you don't need to know the expanded information to be successful in life. Of course basic math, english, etc is important. That's common sense; what I mean is slope intercept form, or the orbital diagram, or whether if the word "the" is a verb. There's a quote that I always love to cite, "Yet another day has passed and I haven't used Algebra once". I don't need to learn how to "solve for x" in order to be successful. 

I do agree that you use the basics of education, but you don't need to know the expanded information to be successful in life. Of course basic math, english, etc is important. That's common sense; what I mean is slope intercept form, or the orbital diagram, or whether if the word "the" is a verb. There's a quote that I always love to cite, "Yet another day has passed and I haven't used Algebra once". I don't need to learn how to "solve for x" in order to be successful. 

Haven't heard that quote before but I would say that I use a lot of algebra. The only thing I think I use more than algebra is English.