Would you guys be interested? I could help I know a bit of code! Would the admins and owners be okay with it let me know! Long time lurker!

This has been discussed already.

This has been discussed already.

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As great as this would be, it's been said G17 just doesn't have the resources or funding to carry this out.

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As great as this would be, it's been said G17 just doesn't have the resources or funding to carry this out.

I was thinking of like a community project.

Not many people in this community are game or mod developers. A majority of people play this game as they want careers in law enforcement or area's like that. Not many have the time or even the skills to undertake a project of such size and believe me, it would take a lot of time to get even near a playable state.

Edited October 5, 201411 yr by BenJ30

Not many people in this community are game or mod developers. A majority of people play this game as they want careers in law enforcement or area's like that. Not many have the time or even the skills to undertake a project of such size and believe me, it would take a lot of time to get even near a playable state.

Well I have the time and I want this to be one of my first projects. I just want the communitys permission to do such a thing.

You don't need permission to make your own game, or were you trying to name it as First Response?

Edited October 5, 201411 yr by HOLLISTUPID

You don't need permission to make your own game, or were you trying to brand it as First Response?

Yeah I was gonna give all profits to them of course this more for my portfolio.

I'm sure if you get permission the people within the community are going to want to know your plans for such a game. How is it going to be made, what game engine, is it going to have realistic physics, will it be moddable? All these questions would need answering before people would probably consider joining a project. Occasionally you'll get people around here promising to make a game which is pretty much Standalone LCPDFR and most don't go anywhere.

Edited October 5, 201411 yr by BenJ30

Well I have the time and I want this to be one of my first projects. I just want the communitys permission to do such a thing.

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 11:54 PM

Basically: LCPDFR isn't even CLOSE to being remotely anything that could be its own game. If we did make our own game, the result would be worse in many ways than doing a GTA IV mod. GTA provides for us a relatively stable, highly advanced engine that handles almost everything that happens ingame. LCPDFR really just is a little tweak on it to change a few behaviors here and there. When we have the suspect cuffed, RAGE actually handles the cuffing by playing the animation developed by someone at Rockstar. When you fire a gun, the gun, its model, the damage done, the health of the target, the flinching of the guy it hits, the animation if you miss - that's all Rockstar's doing. LCPDFR is really a minor thing compared with the scale of the game we piggyback on. And here's the thing - we didn't have to develop that game. By building it on GTA IV, we can gain access to a super-advanced engine with decent-quality low-resource-load content (e.g. Rockstar's car models are superior in detail per polygon to every single GTA car mod I've seen; modders are just not as good at keeping poly counts down) produced to professional standards. We gain access, in short, to tens of millions of dollars and thousands of man-hours of work. And it costs us just 20 dollars per person who wants to play LCPDFR. And the best thing is, we don't even have to pay it - you guys willingly pay the 20 dollars for IV or EFLC, and we then know that you have that incredibly advanced game we can use.

Basically, LCPDFR is massively subsidized by every single person who buys GTA IV or EFLC for console, and every single person who buys it for PC and does not use LCPDFR. If we were to develop our own game, we'd lose that - you'd have to pay a ton of money for a worse experience.

That's why we won't do it. 

 

I responded asking if anything would be different if they were provided the tools necessary to create an LCPDFR game, this was the response;

 

Er, no. The only way to make a game exactly compatible with the current script is to exactly clone GTA IV. The script isn't some Platonic ideal; it's designed to work with GTA IV, and only GTA IV.

And I'm not sure you know what you're talking about with "given all the resources to make a game" - again, that's both tens of millions of dollars, AND years of work by extremely talented programmers, designers, 3D modelers, artists, voice actors, producers, etc. All of them worked on it full-time, as GTA was their day job. You can't just be "given" that - a 3-person team is in no way capable of producing something like GTA IV in pretty much any length of time. It's just not possible. Furthermore, you cannot be given years of your life; if the team wished to make a game as good as GTA, it would be their primary job.

A game the quality of GTA is simply not possible from the dev team. A game a quarter the quality would basically require it to be their main job, and would take years. It would then cost a lot of money, because they have to pay the bills during those years of work, and the market isn't nearly as big as for IV. And the end result would be much worse, quite likely.

That's why "make it into a game" is never, ever going to happen. It's not "push a button". 

 

Edited October 5, 201411 yr by CriminalKillaz

Well I was thinking maybe UE4 or Unity. Free to play. Modable. And obviously realistic. 

Well it seems no one likes the idea but if you are add me on skype at De_timmy ;(

I'm not sure about those engines like but I'm guessing you'd have to pay to use them. You're not earning money of the game as its a Free to Play, you want the game to be realistic meaning more time developing it. So where are you going to get the funds to make all this possible. 

 

These are all questions people would ask you and you need to have answers rather than just wanting to make a standalone game.

I'm not sure about those engines like but I'm guessing you'd have to pay to use them. You're not earning money of the game as its a Free to Play, you want the game to be realistic meaning more time developing it. So where are you going to get the funds to make all this possible. 

 

These are all questions people would ask you and you need to have answers rather than just wanting to make a standalone game.

Funds are not a issue for me.

It just seems that your idea is a spur of the moment thing with not much planning behind it. You have to take into consideration so many things when developing a game and all you've really considered is getting permission from the Developers.

It just seems that your idea is a spur of the moment thing with not much planning behind it. You have to take into consideration so many things when developing a game and all you've really considered is getting permission from the Developers.

I have already developed a game. I ditched it due to boredom of the subject. Im not new to game development trust me on that.

Yeah but you don't make a game by yourself, especially one of this size. You need others who are experienced in making a game, meaning you need to research the different areas of a development team and the programs and things they do. Unless you are good enough to make a game by yourself doing the coding, texturing, modelling etc. 

Yeah but you don't make a game by yourself, especially one of this size. You need others who are experienced in making a game, meaning you need to research the different areas of a development team and the programs and things they do. Unless you are good enough to make a game by yourself doing the coding, texturing, modelling etc.I mad

I have a team. But anyways like you guys said bad idea moving on i guess.

I think if you have an experienced team at your command, enough resources and financial support as you claim, you should give it a try. Of course, the results may not be comparable to a game as stable as GTA IV itself since it was developed by a seasoned and well-known company with 900+ employees throughout the world, but since you will be focusing on JUST a fraction of original GTA IV-like features comprising of and limited to police role-playing elements (which means not having to work on story and side-missions like Rockstar studios had to do), I can actually see potential. BUT, like I said, only in the case where you have the resources and the experience you claim to have.

I think if you have an experienced team at your command, enough resources and financial support as you claim, you should give it a try. Of course, the results may not be comparable to a game as stable as GTA IV itself since it was developed by a seasoned and well-known company with 900+ employees throughout the world, but since you will be focusing on JUST a fraction of original GTA IV-like features comprising of and limited to police role-playing elements (which means not having to work on story and side-missions like Rockstar studios had to do), I can actually see potential. BUT, like I said, only in the case where you have the resources and the experience you claim to have.

Well now we have an experienced team.

Starting soon, We just need someone who can do animations.. And someone who can scratch model.

Everything else is handled