Preface: I have seen there has been a lot of discourse in different LSPDFR discords about vibe coding and the AI disclosure. I recently updated an older mod and had to fill out the AI disclosure. To be honest, I was a little confused. The wording was vague. There is no clear distinction between the 3 different tiers(minor, moderate, substantial). The suggestions below aim to improve that. Also some additional thoughts.

There are 4 main ways a developer can use AI to aid in their development of a mod: Ideation/Design work, Implementation(the actual methods/code), Debugging, Marketing(Description and Images).

Currently, the first 3 ways are represented with 1 option and the last option (Marketing) is represented with 2 options. This feels lobsided and where I think the disconnect is happening.

As an example: If the AI did a substantial amount of debugging which in turn changes a lot of code, I would think one would have to choose "substantial" for mod and mod content. Therefore, my mod would be slapped with the "Made with AI" tag. This gives users the impression in this scenario that I vibe coded this out with Claude Code and posted it on the forums with no thought behind it.

How I would improve the system?
My theoretical new disclosure system would look like this:

This gives each aspect of script development its own disclosure giving the user a clear picture of how the developer uses AI and whether the AI is an aid or the developer.

If this new system feels too invasive, I would understand that. However, I think the hesitation in telling the truth comes from what the consequence is if you did use a lot of AI; the dreaded black tag, "Made with AI". Many devs nowadays use AI as an aid within development. This system hurts those devs just as much as the devs who are using Claude Code to build plugins ("AI Slop").

If this system does not get implemented, I would maybe suggest changed how the tag is phrased.

Edited Monday at 11:10 PM4 days by ApparentlyRohan

Thanks for your thought out post, it is appreciated.

I am skeptical to make too many changes to our disclosure system in terms of the categories, I feel that the categories you have listed are a little biased towards Script Modifications in particular, whilst our AI disclosure system is designed to suit all types of mods - we probably aren't that far off models and more being AI generated. Not to say we won't, I just think we need to look at this more.

We do have a description of what we consider Minor, Moderate and Significant use of AI here: https://www.lcpdfr.com/forums/topic/155394-marking-ai-content-on-your-files/ - did you manage to find this when you were looking?

It's clear that some content is not being correctly tagged, and we aim to increase enforcement i.e. including but not limited to harsher penalties. I feel like we probably have to document better objectively what we're expecting before considering stronger enforcement, however. It does need some extra consideration that we do not penalize harmonic AI use like you describe.

We are very open to feedback here, this is something a little new, and the current system is not perfect, so refinements and changes seem inevitable. I think some other sites have just settled with AI used yes/no and filters based on the sole boolean, so we are trying to do something a little more expressive than that.

Thank you for your response.

I was unaware you can develop vehicle models with AI 😂😂

Yes, objectivity is what is needed. It seems more difficult to have 1 general AI disclosure that is able to fit so many different styles of mods. Making a charges xml modification is super different from making a plugin which is super different from making a car model. Each has its own level of nuance. I do not know if that can be captured in 1 general disclosure. That is my only concern with the current approach.

I remember reading the page you linked. However, when uploading my mod, I forgot it existed. Maybe add a tooltip or link to that post next to the AI disclosure section when uploading the mod?

Edited Tuesday at 01:58 AM4 days by ApparentlyRohan