BC DESIGNS

This is old af but it's by Raz3r

I am working on converting several Seagrave base models. An Engine, Ladder and Rescue to be exact. I'll post it in my Discord when it is complete

I am working on converting several Seagrave base models. An Engine, Ladder and Rescue to be exact. I'll post it in my Discord when it is complete

It's good to have you back. You're a big reason why I started developing but if I am being frank, your attitude toward the community led to other developers to take the same stance. Unfortunately the community has devolved into a toxic mess of developers hating on developers and those who know less than them. I am not saying that you are 100% to blame by ANY means, but this community started to become a lot worse when you left the last time. I appreciate you taking the time to write this out and confront your past attitudes head on.

I see this as a good way to level the playing field and open the door to honest conversation amongst devs and a mutual drive to be better. For a long time I've told people that the LSPDFR community really needs a revival and a return to non-paid, high quality free mods. Too often people are out for a quick dollar to be made rather than a passion for developing mods. This shift in attitude on your part could be a huge factor in turning the tide of the community as a whole. You've gained a ton of my respect back that you'd previously lost and I'm grateful to have you around.

With love,
-BC

All is forgiven. What is done is done and there is no sense dwelling on it. What matters most is how you choose to move on from it and what image you decide to create for yourself from here on out. You're an outstanding dev who makes good work. Focus on that and improving all the things you mentioned above and you'll be the best damn dev out there. Reputations can always change

Look brother, 
Anyone whos been apart of this community for any reasonable amount of time should understand the pressures devs and creators have. theres a ton of ungrateful individuals here, a line up of people who couldn't mod a rock who criticize work of devs and mod creators and those who feel like they should get more and more not realizing the hard work and effort that goes into QUALITY content thats put out for FREE on websites such as LSPDR and alike. 
I have held on to just about every pack you have put out because in my book, you were among the top creators such as JCOOKGRIME, The echowolf team, BlueGhost and others to name a few. You and i have had a few conversations in the past and to be fair, i can understand ( to a degree ) your reasons for responding in the way you did and such. To say that they are unforgivable is unreasonable and unfair. Again, theres a level of pressure on you guys. As such, your apology is accepted and i hope that you can continue to put out quality packs and vehicles for those of us in the community who understand in part the hard work and effort you put into your work. Lessons have been learned and all we can do now is move forward! 
 
Welcome back brother

Yeah, negative reviews, some are like it's such a small detail and you're the only one complaining and others may be like a common problem that everyone is having.  I understand it takes a long time to mod these plugins, vehicles, whatever.  I don't create like you all do but I can see from reading past responses from Authors that it takes a long time to do it and sometime you need to pay for the software to do that on.  After all that you get bad reviews on what you spent all that time and money on.  It can be very discouraging.  It works fine on my system why not yours?  Everyone hates negative things against them but it could be a learning curve.  Now you know what people think about your creation.  Can you fix what is wrong or are their complaints, Umm, mediocre?  I don't think I really criticized anybodies uploads on here on my complaints.  If so then I didn't mean it that way.  I think a lot of authors try to fix the complaints, neg reviews if they can.  Or they just got tired of the game and moved on and never heard from again. 

Hello everyone,
 
As we approach a year since I left this website for the 500th time, I want to take this opportunity to apologize to the entire LSPDFR community. There are a few individuals that I owe much more significant apologies to, and I have contacted them separately.
 
I deeply regret berating and disrespecting the users on this website. I now recognize that a significant part of a pack author's responsibility includes taking feedback and providing support to all users, regardless of the problems they face. I realize I should have helped those that needed assistance, rather than abusing them and trying to make them feel bad about themselves. The reasons for the actions I've taken cannot be explained in any other way aside from complete immaturity and an inability on my part to take any legitimate criticism, and for that I sincerely apologize. In addition, it was extremely unfair of me to expect that everyone else would have the same level of GTA V modding knowledge that I do. We all start at the same place, and I once asked the same questions too. We cannot grow and learn without asking questions. There are no such things as stupid questions. Each question is valid in its own way, and I should have answered them respectfully and to the best of my ability. 
 
I must also apologize to the LSPDFR community as a whole for uploading packs, then removing the packs, then uploading again, then removing again. I realize how this has impacted those that care about my packs or just wanted to try them out and how this appears to the average user. I am fully accepting of the title "Tactical Crybaby" - because it is undoubtedly true. I am truly grateful to those that have uploaded my packs to other websites such as Launcher Leaks. You kept my packs available for the people that wanted them while I was having a temper tantrum in the corner.
 
I also owe a special apology to the users and staff at GTAPoliceMods. It was incredibly unfair for me to disparage your website and call it a "rip-off LSPDFR". The effort that went into creating the website and the "FivePD" mod is unimaginable to me, and I have nothing but respect for it. It is truly a community comprised of most established and respected modders - and I was jealous that I didn't have anywhere near the skill needed to participate there.
 
Finally, as it appears that my stance toward users and departure(s) led other developers to do the same - I must also apologize for this. This was never my intention, and I had never thought that my actions would lead other developers to do the same. Even back when I held my original attitude, I never wanted to hurt the community to its core by changing the environment to a toxic pile of garbage. This further drives home the point that it is so important for me to recognize my mistakes and learn from them, and to do everything I can to set a good example now and in the future.
 
For the past year, I've done my best to take a step back and get some perspective.
 
I've looked back on my comments and review responses, and I cringe. My responses were so angry and so hate-filled for no legitimate reason. I would disregard feedback - only to realize later that the feedback was completely legitimate. I would often send off an angry response, only to realize later that the reviewer was absolutely correct. Even the one-star reviews for installation issues held a large amount of truth. I am incredibly ashamed of my actions and wish I had done everything differently from the very start; yet I was not mature enough to do so. 
 
I do sincerely hope that throughout my tenure on this website, you've found my packs to have grown in quality and stability. Regardless of what you think of me personally, I hope that you've found some enjoyment or use - any use - out of the packs I create. My intent is to one day return to public uploads here - between my new experience as an IT professional, the virtual help desk I created, and the lessons I've learned - I hope that I can for once contribute to and interact with this community in a positive way.
 
Please let me know your thoughts. I want to know your honest opinion, even if - especially if - that opinion is a giant middle finger to me. 
 
From the bottom of my heart, thank you all for being with me (or against me) thus far, and I hope you'll continue to stay with me through whatever comes next.
 
Tactical Donut

From a personal standpoint, only time will tell with the legitimacy of your apology. While your packs were good, one of the biggest issues I had was the constant removal of your packs, as you mentioned. I would have loved nothing more than to recommend them, but it's hard to do so when they were being removed every other week purely because of a bad review/someone not using their eyes. It kinda felt like you had the community held hostage to the point where only good things could be said otherwise all your content would get removed again. I appreciate the apology put forward and I hope that you will stick to your word going forward and see this as a learning experience.

Best of luck! 🙂

You are welcome. All the best to you! 🙂

You intrigued my interest in what you said in the past.  Now I'll go do some research on what all the bad things you said.   Just Kidding!  What's in the past is in the past and it's awesome that you step up and do whatever you think needs to be done to correct it.  I really don't remember anyone offending me personally.  I probably asked dumb questions in the past trying to learn how to mod this game.  This is the first game I really heavily modding.  But I really wanted to play it and I eventually learned a lot.   A lot of common questions have already been asked on here and a little internet research you might find the question and the answer so you don't have to ask on here.  How do you politely say, look it up, this question has been answered a million times.  Just answer it and move on is the best you can do.  I won't say how old I am, though I did say in a recent post, but I have said dumb regrettable stuff in the past and for me, just getting older made me wiser.  It made me try to think before I speak.  Just comes with maturity.  I still may say some regrettable stuff but not as much as I used to.  😀   I don't think you said anything bad to me. If so then I can't remember.  Another mature quality, try to forget who offended you and move on.  I don't have time to hold grudges.  I recently downloaded and installed your LAPD/LSPD mega pack and that is nice.  I only use a couple of your vehicles for now but it's nice to see another mega pack like that.  Before it was Osc4r but there are some problems still with some of his vehicles.  So it's nice to see another similar pack come out.  I say, please don't leave us again and it will all be fine and forgiven.    😀👍

This is an aspect that I had not even considered and thus I owe an additional apology for. I've amended my original post. 
 
Please believe me when I say that even what I held my original attitude, immaturity, and pettiness, I did not want other developers to take the same stance I did, and it is unfortunate that it ended up that way. 

It's good to have you back. You're a big reason why I started developing but if I am being frank, your attitude toward the community led to other developers to take the same stance. Unfortunately the community has devolved into a toxic mess of developers hating on developers and those who know less than them. I am not saying that you are 100% to blame by ANY means, but this community started to become a lot worse when you left the last time. I appreciate you taking the time to write this out and confront your past attitudes head on.

I see this as a good way to level the playing field and open the door to honest conversation amongst devs and a mutual drive to be better. For a long time I've told people that the LSPDFR community really needs a revival and a return to non-paid, high quality free mods. Too often people are out for a quick dollar to be made rather than a passion for developing mods. This shift in attitude on your part could be a huge factor in turning the tide of the community as a whole. You've gained a ton of my respect back that you'd previously lost and I'm grateful to have you around.

With love,
-BC

It's good to have you back. You're a big reason why I started developing but if I am being frank, your attitude toward the community led to other developers to take the same stance. Unfortunately the community has devolved into a toxic mess of developers hating on developers and those who know less than them. I am not saying that you are 100% to blame by ANY means, but this community started to become a lot worse when you left the last time. I appreciate you taking the time to write this out and confront your past attitudes head on.

I see this as a good way to level the playing field and open the door to honest conversation amongst devs and a mutual drive to be better. For a long time I've told people that the LSPDFR community really needs a revival and a return to non-paid, high quality free mods. Too often people are out for a quick dollar to be made rather than a passion for developing mods. This shift in attitude on your part could be a huge factor in turning the tide of the community as a whole. You've gained a ton of my respect back that you'd previously lost and I'm grateful to have you around.

With love,
-BC

You are exactly right with this. It was incredibly petty of me to - as you say - hold the community hostage. Although I cannot predict the future, I want to assure you and all other LSPDFR users that I am absolutely 100% committed to contributing to this website in a positive way, with zero strings attached. Feedback is such an incredible tool for authors like me and it is deplorable that I suppressed all forms of criticism because of my immaturity. 
 
Thank you for your comment.

Oof, please send me a screenshot of your game dirrectory
 

I had the same issue. I did a fresh reinstall of LSPDFR and it fixed it for me.

I totally agree with you on that! The problem is, as I mentionned earlier, that many of the native features of LSPDFR had to be scrapped in order for BejoIjo's plugins to work. Just to mention a few: all the awesome animations G17 made when you placed someone in the back of a car, frisked them, arrested them or held them by the arm, the stats (arrests made, persons frisked, and tickets issued with STP don't register into your stats, which is a damn shame), and so much more..
 
I don't blame BejoIjo for that.. I just find it very unfortunate that you have to scrap some of this great stuff in order to reach more depth. Oh, and.. G17 showed multiple times that they weren't very supportive of BejoIjo's work, so I don't think that's what they wanted (i.e., his plugins becoming essential and keeping LSPDFR alive).

I think they could be more room for, new features, new callouts made by LSPDFR Officials, not 3rd Party Plug-ins, i see there is a ton of potential for more stuff added to this..

For example
1- a Newer and better computer system..
 
2- a larger police stations with larger Jail System, to hold more prisoners, and they would stay in there longer.

I worked in law-enforcement for 22 years, retired of course and the town i worked for was was not a large city and the Jail cells was larger and we could hold about 150
prisoners. for holding until they was transported to a more permanent holding facility..

3- maybe add a booking area, where when you transport the prisoners to the station you bring them to the booking department, fingerprint them, and take their photo.
And then log them into the Computer for booking.
 
Our department was not too large, if you worked the day shift they was officers who would do all the booking, 9-5 type deal.
If you wokred the night or 3rd shift each officer when they made an arrest, that officer would do all the booking process then go back out on the street after, same as a DUI Arrest , most people are not aware of it but, when a police officer  in my town made a DUI arrest it took 2 to 4 hours to do all the paper work, so that officer was off the streets on his/ her shift doing paper work until he / she was finished, like i said that could take any where from 2 to 4 hours just for the paper work alone..
 
4- maybe a way for an officer to direct traffic, not sure it is possible the peds are nuts to begin with in moving their cars they will run over people just to keep moving so lol.

5- maybe a way to control or temp make street lights all the lights turn red.
 
I know we had a way to do that if we was in a high speed pursuit, we was able to turn all the traffic lights red with the press of a button on our console in the car, it would send a signal to the control box and turn all the lights red for about 30 seconds,  i believe the fire department was able to do that as well..
any way the most improvement they could do is more call outs, and maybe ones with audio speaking PEDS instead of having to press the Y key every time....
Almost like a cut scene. any way as far as it is now it's pretty good.. it does crash from time to time but still it's pretty stable..
Some times it will last 5 min before all the plugins unload and you got to reload all the plugins again, some times it would run 1 or 2 hours with out that.
How ever it just may be my fault and have too many plugins installed or something  conflicting, not sure..
 
Donny

 

The community around police modifications is what kept them alive, and in my opinion which has caused them to have thrived, and without a doubt will continue to do so for many years to come.
 
The contributions have increased over the years, and it encouraged others to play the modifications in the way they wanted to.
 
Most people like myself only bought a PC just for the modifications itself, and the power of the community is what made the decision for me to get one which is amazing.
 
Think of LSPDFR/LCPDFR/RDFR as a framework giving the ability to play, but in addition to the framework, creators share their contributions adding hundreds of hours of gameplay to the base modifications.
 
There is no need to focus on "other features" if the community is already doing that for us.
 
There's not too many new things I can think of that we already haven't implemented.
 
Example A) We evolved from Albo's Siren Mastery to the Emergency Lighting System by Lt. Caine, and now Dynamic Lighting System by TheMaybeast.
 
Example B) We evolved from having backup units in a patrol car, the ability to call for a roadblock to a helicopter, and even boats from LCPDFR to now Ultimate Backup by BejoIjo in LSPDFR to which we can have spike strips, and the ability to customize our backup units how we please.
 
Now with RDRFR I can't imagine what people will introduce to us next.

I know, this may sound a bit dramatic, but I can't help but wonder why the enormous potential of this mod seems to be going to waste. LSPDFR was initially released in 2015, which was 6 years ago.. but still, it lacks so many features compared to LCPDFR, of which the last version, version 1.1, was also released 6 years after its initial release. It feels as though LSPDFR has great, very polished foundations, but no "house" to give it a purpose. We have a great characters system, awesome appartements, some very polished animations and police related functions, but.. ultimately, they're all very situational.
 
LCPDFR had "complex" traffic stops with multiple dialogue options, partners, a hardcore mode, an interesting variety of callouts, lightning control and even an integrated ALPR system! All of this made LCPDFR a very interesting and fun experience!
 
Sure, you can rely on plugins like BejoIjo's or Rich's (love your stuff man) to fill that empty space but it often means you have to scrap some of those great but limited functions I was mentionning earlier to make it all work, like in BejoIjo's case.
 
Anyways, I guess my main point is.. isn't it time to change focus and to actually start to create gameplay value on top of those great foundations we have?
 
And to be clear, I'm not criticizing the frequency of updates nor the investement of the devs in this project, which is more than sufficient in my book (we're all adults, we have more going in our lives than just video games), but the way development seems to focus (in my opinion, as always) on less important features.

I think its more a difference in philosophy.  It seems with LSPDFR that the intention is to provide a stable and robust foundation for plugins to build on with the API.  In that regard they have done a tremendous job, I also think having to constantly contend of Rockstar's updates breaking shit takes away from what time the Dev team does have to expand the API and add additional foundation features.
I agree that in some ways LCPDR was more complex, but LCPDFR was never as stable as LSPDFR is.  I also think that a lot of that complexity was necessary to include in the base mod because it was a crap-shoot to get other modifications to alongside LCPDFR with the terrible port that was GTA IV.  

I forced 2-3 pursuit calls before the game crashed
 
 
So you're saying something like this isn't normal if I'm understanding correctly:
 
[7/2/2021 4:11:59 PM.564] at oWRTucoIGuOUToaPnMVPBcUgjvJd.fjjvDxgheIioYALivpoTQOfjGmIFb(zdVALJOReSsVcMsBbTLeJrTaHoGr ) in E:\GTA V\LSPD First Response\LSPD First Response\Engine\Scripting\AI\StrictCooldownFail.cs:line 39
 
 
RagePluginHook.log

No I'd just accepted a call out, it seems like whatever spawned as a result of the call out caused the crash. It's been happening on an off for the last couple of days. I installed a police pack but can't recall the name. Not many mods overall which is why the crashes are strange.
Just to add, I'd also added [ELS] Los Santos PD Mega Pack 1.1

Removed Chill Callouts still Crashing when picking an Officer