Xander6478

Given the current global crisis and the ongoing events in America that have sparked protesting and riots across the world I do not think this thread is any way even remotely appropriate.
 
I don't think it's acceptable, even in the forum section dedicated to this kind of discussion, to watch youtube videos/news articles and post a derogatory topic about what you think US police are "allowed" to do.
 
I'm closing this to prevent any backlash or drama. Please think before you post.
 

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Well said @c13
 
I've been around since 2011. This was a problem then and it  always will be. Hopefully this will shed some more light on the obvious.
 
As much as I love looking at everyone's gallery posts that inspire me to launch my game, once I get in, I'm bored. It's the same thing over and over and over. I limit myself to the calls I take in game because they're truly boring as hell. My favorite call is a random callout pack where you respond to a domestic, arrive on scene, and both parties agree to leave the property. It's realistic, and it doesn't require 438 keybinds to get the job done.

Totally agree with this, I hope people take this as a guide and not an attack to new people trying to model or make scripts. Began modelling myself 4-5 months ago and I still haven't released a thing since I want to take time on my cars. I don't want to release something that's complete trash and I'm not happy with. It'd be nice to see more people taking this stance in taking pride in what they make. Thanks for starting this topic.

Totally agree with this, I hope people take this as a guide and not an attack to new people trying to model or make scripts. Began modelling myself 4-5 months ago and I still haven't released a thing since I want to take time on my cars. I don't want to release something that's complete trash and I'm not happy with. It'd be nice to see more people taking this stance in taking pride in what they make. Thanks for starting this topic.

Totally agree with this, I hope people take this as a guide and not an attack to new people trying to model or make scripts. Began modelling myself 4-5 months ago and I still haven't released a thing since I want to take time on my cars. I don't want to release something that's complete trash and I'm not happy with. It'd be nice to see more people taking this stance in taking pride in what they make. Thanks for starting this topic.

Like @Xander6478 and @Pacific Pig said. I totally agree with this. I don't understand why people always take criticism as an attack on their work and just brushing it off their shoulder like it's nothing when it's actually an issue. I don't know how many times a vehicle with issues has been released and the author just says "Your hating" or like "Stop hating" and it's ridiculous.

Totally agree with this, I hope people take this as a guide and not an attack to new people trying to model or make scripts. Began modelling myself 4-5 months ago and I still haven't released a thing since I want to take time on my cars. I don't want to release something that's complete trash and I'm not happy with. It'd be nice to see more people taking this stance in taking pride in what they make. Thanks for starting this topic.

Like @Xander6478 said I totally agree with this, people always seem to take criticism as an attack. I myself made a model once  just to try it asked for help and got it, I made something that was ehh and not the greatest so I didn't release it because I knew it need work and didn't wanna just throw it out there. Honestly I hope people don't freak out about this topic and we can get some actual good discussion out of it.

Totally agree with this, I hope people take this as a guide and not an attack to new people trying to model or make scripts. Began modelling myself 4-5 months ago and I still haven't released a thing since I want to take time on my cars. I don't want to release something that's complete trash and I'm not happy with. It'd be nice to see more people taking this stance in taking pride in what they make. Thanks for starting this topic.

Totally agree with this, I hope people take this as a guide and not an attack to new people trying to model or make scripts. Began modelling myself 4-5 months ago and I still haven't released a thing since I want to take time on my cars. I don't want to release something that's complete trash and I'm not happy with. It'd be nice to see more people taking this stance in taking pride in what they make. Thanks for starting this topic.

This is a bit of a rant, but I feel like it's something that needs to be said for anyone who uploads models or scripts.
 
I want to point out that our community guidelines encourage constructive criticism. This means comments on how to improve a vehicle or script, not hateful comments such as "this is shit." If you don't want comments that you think are mean (when they are really pointing out problems with it), then put effort into your uploads.
 
I asked a number of people from both sides of modding, and these are common issues listed:
 
Models:
-Big one: Complete lack of credits. More people worked on the parts used than just "you". All files should have every credit listed from the parts you used to create your content. That's even in the community guidelines.
-The credits section is included on the file page for a reason. It should be more than just "Included." It takes 5 seconds to copy and paste them.
-If you don't know who made something, find out or don't include that part. "Unknown" isn't acceptable.
-Stolen parts. If someone just gives you a part on discord with no credits and he isn't the original author, it's probably stolen.
 
IMPORTANT NOTE- It's not the job of the community to handle those issues, it's the job of moderators. If you see it, report it and move on to prevent drama
 
-Throwing a lightbar on a car and releasing.
-Way out of scale lights and other equipment, such as laptops, spotlights, etc
-No LODs, meaning the added parts disappear more than a few feet away from the car
-Lack of any additional equipment. Police cars have more than just a lightbar and pushbars. Partitions, weapons, center consoles, lighting control systems, laptops, etc. A vast majority of police cars have that and it ruins realism if a car only has lights.
-No VCF being included. Properly setup VCF's are needed for the ELS coronas to be the correct color at a distance.
-Miscolored textures. If a pushbar is green or purple, fix it.
-Clipping equipment. Nothing should be sticking through the windshield.
-Multiple radios and siren controllers. Those are extremely rare if ever used.
-Red and Blue DRL's. Not physically possible in real life.
-Super basic flash patterns that have no effort put into them.
-Calling it a real life agency when it looks nothing like it. If some one searches for that agency, they already have what they want in their mind. Putting "Fictional" in the title doesn't fix that.
 
 
Problems on scripts:
-The exact same stolen vehicle callouts across 50 files, and especially scripts that only contain those. Mainly when it is copied exactly from tutorials and the only difference is the type of car.
-People committing crimes while standing in the middle of the street.
-Outlandish events that never happen day to day, ie: Major shootouts, stolen monster trucks, tanks, emergency vehicles, etc. Even pursuits are fairly rare for most officers.
-Stolen code from others
-Callouts riddled with errors
-Unrealistic premises. For example, a mugging should be over in a few seconds and shouldn't be called in until after it's over. You shouldn't get the call, respond for 2 minutes and still find the suspect holding someone at gun point.
 
There's dozens of discords of talented people who would be happy to help. Don't be afraid to ask them. Modding is a learning process. You're not going to be good over night, it takes time and most importantly, you can always improve. Picasso didn't sell his first drawing he did in grade school, you should probably not release your first ever model or plugin either.
 
Mainly, take some time to objectively ask yourself if you would download it if you didn't make it or if you didn't have a bias towards that agency.
 
This leads me into the topic title. Just because "It's his first time" doesn't make some one immune to criticism. People should be encouraged to improve. I spent hundreds of hours on my first vehicle uploads. I sought the guidance of people with way more experience than me who I trusted. If some one points out issues to the car or script, they aren't a "hater". They aren't a "shithead who would struggle to put 2 match sticks together". They actually do care that some one can improve. I personally want to see as much quality stuff put into the downloads section as possible. But that means actually taking time on something, which is something very few people have been willing to do over the last year.