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I understand your point of view. I was once there my self before I started modeling and making different things. So I do understand what your saying and the purpose behind it, but I must speak from the perspective of a modeler. The thing with this community is this, it has become very selfish. People (those who don't contribute) way out number those who do. When I see comments DEMANDING the release of a model that has been shown off in the gallery, it makes me angry. Those people don't understand the hard work and time it takes to make the models that have since been released on here. Not every model that is shown off has to or is going to be released. There has become this idea that "if you showcase it, why not release it?" Or "your just showing it off to look cool." I can honestly say that kind of thing makes me not want to release models. Unfortunately thats only one of the problems. The other is the SEVERE lack of respect for peoples; models, parts, dev items, ideas, etc. people go out and abuse the things they are given, either releasing them without permission, claiming them as their own, or ripping models. It has become such a huge problem that no modelers want to release anything. Just because someone post a pic of a model that isn't released or won't be released, doesn't mean their trying to be rude or get publicity. Their doing it because they like to show off their work of art. Unfortunately their are growing issues within the community. Not with the community it's self but the people who want to do this kind of thing.

Got some cool game play videos. I do plan on getting more and maybe even do a stream.. Check them out below OFFENSIVE RUSH DEFENSIVE RUSH

Check out some of the game play I collected from earlier today. (I know there is lag but thats EA's servers for you) ENJOY!

Here are some of the patrol vehicle I see regularly....

Wow cant believe this thread is over 2 years old and still going strong! Thats awesome. Love seeing all the beautiful cars from all over. Keep em coming

Good points yet again, we can't see his hands. In either video, nor do we know what led to the different events. I think we could all say that in a normal situation the cameras wouldn't have come out. Something must of sparked the interest of these people to record. Waiting till the end for your final opinion definitely will be the best option.

I completely agree with that you said 100%. If there is wrong doing than hopefully it will be found and the right actions what ever they may be are taken. I also agree with your statement that yes it is still very early in this investigation to tell really what happened. Videos are good and bad in ways that they offer better support to what someone might be claiming, but they also can distort what really happened 5, 10, even 15 minutes before they started rolling. I hope for a clear and transparent investigation like the mayor has said we will be getting. We need to rebuild the trust with officers and the community because those who are unaware and uneducated on different things tend to be scared of what they don't know. We'll all have to sit back and see what happens.

It seems like this is becoming a more common thing, I don't know what to think. Is it the media coverage? Is it happening more often? What is the deal? Recently there was another officer involved shooting resulting in the loss of a life. For those who may not of heard of it here's a story: http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/06/us/baton-rouge-shooting-alton-sterling/index.html Things are still very early so its going to be hard to form opinions right now. However I want to get peoples first impressions in the early stages because those tend to be the most raw form before they are changed with different news reports and such. Ill go ahead and give mine, please bare in mind that I am just a neutral party simplify stating what I think about the event and such events in the past. So here goes nothing... First off let me start by saying I am a very hard facts type of guy, I like reading actual reports, viewing video from the event, and reading news stories (however don't let the news sway me too much because I know the nature of their job.) I like seeing solid proof of such things if they are brought up. For example the JFK shooting, people often talk about the ballistics when it comes to that event. For me I will believe something if it can be shown in writing in the form of a report of formal document. That's just the type of person I am. So with that being said my opinion of things right now is going to be very different than say a few months down the road when the investigation closes. Okay let me get to the point... I will say, I've seen the video(s). Right now I believe there are only two, one being from someone outside maybe 2ft away and another from a different angle in a vehicle. However with the vehicle video, when the first shot is fired the camera ducks behind a door or under the dash so its hard to get a good view of anything after that. With the other video with the bystander standing back, there is an officer in the way so its hard to see key areas that would drive some of my opinions, especially when the idea of a weapon coming into the mix. Here's what I know so far, and that's why I would like to see what other people have heard/read/seen. Alton was stopped after officers responded to a 911 call of a man with a weapon outside the food mart where the event took place, a confrontation took place, and he ended up on the floor in a struggle with two officers. From what ive heard either one or both were wearing body cams. In the video you can hear and officer yell "GUN GUN GUN GUN" and see the officer blocking the camera draw his weapon and aim down on Alton. From what I've heard there was a weapon present on his person, but whether he was going for it or making any kind of movies to it, I'm not sure. You can hear the officer give him commands then shots are fired, when the camera angles back toward the struggle you see one officer on the ground with his weapon aimed at Alton, who is clearly bleeding from the chest. The video cuts out shortly after the officers call shots fired and what happens next is unknown to me. According to reports the 911 call stated that someone was "brandishing a firearm, not pointing it at anyone" so I would guess the officers are already on high alert with reports of a fire arm being present. According to the store owner, who says Alton was a nice man and had permission to be at the store had never been in any fights or caused a problem. A taser was reported to have been used before the final line of drawing the firearm and resulting in deadly force. So here's my two cents about the situation. Keep in mind I am not a law enforcement officer nor am I knowledgeable of the laws governing use of force in that state or the local policies in place for that department. I am only knowledgeable in different use of force policies in my area which are some what universal I would assume. So Alton is taken to the ground, there's the first use of force I have seen so far, what justifies him being taken to the ground I'm unaware of but I believe we will soon learn that. I would assume that at this point the officers want to place cuffs on Alton. Whether he was under arrest at that point or he was simply going to be detained I am also unaware of. I do know that with reports of a firearm being present in the situation it would've been normal to pat someone down for weapons. Could this have led to the confrontation or was it something else? During the struggle an officer yells gun, at that point a fellow officer draws his weapon and gives Alton commands not to move. I feel this is pretty universally understood that if an officer sees or feels a weapon on you that their weapons are gonna come out. For those who want to say "why didn't they use a taser?" apparently according to the owner that option was exhausted already. So what led to the shooting? Well who really knows at this point, obviously there was a weapon present on his person because it was taken off of him after shots were fired. Was excessive force used? Well I think the only time that could come into question would be when he is taken to the ground. In the video angle in the vehicle as well as in still photos from the event, the officer takes Alton to the ground almost in what looks like a body slam type of way. In the video you see him hit the hood of a silver vehicle parked in the parking lot before falling to the ground with the officer on top. At this point I would assume cuffs were going to be put on. Also I would assume this is when the weapon would've been seen, or maybe the officer felt the weapon and Alton got scared and put his hand on it to keep the officer away. I'm hoping for those who will follow this investigation that good things will come of it. I would like to see the officers held accountable for their actions if there is found to be wrong doing. However I hope that with the conclusion of the investigation if the Justice Dept finds that no wrong doing was done that the public will accept that and instead of cause a problem. Similar to that in Ferguson, that instead we learn from this event. Put measures in place to prevent them, and we educate those who wish to have it so we can all be better citizens to our nation, our community, and ourselves. Please, please, please comment with your options and findings. I love to hear from others. Remember knowledge is the best weapon. Arm yourself to be the best. Also, I will not post the link to any of the videos due to their graphic content. Feel free to post them in the comments below. Thank you, Downcoldkiller Please keep in mind, any fowl comments, or offensive content will be reported and removed. Don't shame anyone for their opinion. You never know, someone might not agree with yours.