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Well that is part of the debate. These people did not have a court date or anyway of defending themselves against what they were accused of doing. They weren't convicted of a crime. There is also the issue of how effective these interrogation tactics are. How much accurate information was gained? When someone is being tortured they will say anything to make the pain stop. If your interrogator doesn't believe you when you say you don't know anything then you will just make something up to make them happy. Now this isn't to say that I have very much sympathy for the people this happened to because they were most likely doing stuff they shouldn't have been doing and probably deserve whatever happened to them. I just don't know how effective these techniques were at gaining valuable information.

Haven't heard that quote before but I would say that I use a lot of algebra. The only thing I think I use more than algebra is English.

That is where people are wrong. I have used or could have used more stuff that I learned in high school and/or college in the real world than I thought. Sure, there is some stuff that I have never needed to use (at least not yet), but part of it is just having the knowledge. I can't think of very many jobs that don't use at least a little bit of everything. I'll use law enforcement as an example since most people here are interested in LE and/or want to pursue a career in it. English is a pretty obvious one, every police officer writes tons of reports and having a well written report could make the difference when that case goes to court. Math, traffic crash investigations (even basic ones) require lots of math. Science, unless you work for a really big agency with lots of resources (even if you do) you will need to know some basic science behind forensic investigations. Knowing why you process certain fingerprints one way but other fingerprints a different way. Not to mention that when people don't know what to do or who can help them they call the police so having at least a little bit of knowledge in as many areas as possible will help you in so many ways even if at the time it seems like something insignificant.

Who says that school is supposed to prepare you for life? Yes, it does do some of that but that should be the responsibility of the parents. School cannot possibly teach you everything you need to know, some of it you just need to learn for yourself. I can tell whoever made this is probably either a senior in high school or just graduated, he thought that since he is done or almost done with high school he should now know everything and get hired by the perfect employer but something happened and he realized he doesn't know shit and/or didn't get the job he wanted and now he feels cheated. School is supposed to prepare you to go learn a job skill and/or move onto higher education. When you go and learn to be a mechanic or EMT or any other job there are simple things like math, English, science that you will need to know; that is what school is preparing you for.

My dream car has been a Ferrari F430 for the longest time but ever since the 458 Italia replaced the F430 I have really wanted the 458.

There could have been lots of reasons for why it took long. Sometimes the system runs slow, sometimes they are verifying your information is correct, or it could have been for about 100 different other reasons. I am not sure what database they use in Canada but I know in the US we use NCIC and for Florida we also had a state database called FCIC. Sometimes we would run a person and for whatever reason the database gives us a weird result and we have to recheck it a couple times. I've seen "matches" come back because the person we were running was born on the same month and day as someone with a warrant but the year they were born in would be like 15 years apart. Not sure why it does that but it gets really aggravating.

Yeah, if you are stationed at Fort Benning, Fort Bragg, or Fort Campbell then there are a bunch of cool schools you can go to. It is really easy to go because the training is at your duty station so your unit doesn't have to send you on TDY to go get extra training. A lot of guys at Fort Benning go through Airborne school even though they are not part of an airborne unit. I wouldn't mind doing Pathfinder school and even though I am in an airborne unit I am stationed all the way in Germany and my unit doesn't really need any Pathfinders with my MOS. Some of those guys might actually use that training, but I'm sure most of them will never need it. However Airborne School is actually a DoD school meaning that it is run by all the branches. Most of the instructors are Army guys but they have Air Force and Navy instructors as well (I had a couple in my company). I guess they could have Marine Corps and Coast Guard instructors but I never saw any while I was there. Lol, have them go up to a actual Ranger and say that. In the Army most people don't call themselves a Ranger unless they actually serve with the Ranger Regiment. Jump school is a lot of fun, it sucks like 80% of the time (especially during jump week) but when you are actually jumping it is so much fun. I enjoy marching/drilling occasionally but doing it all the time in basic training kinda made me not like it so much. Once you finish basic training and AIT you pretty much never march or drill. The closest thing I do to drilling in my unit is standing in formation in the morning before work for like 15 mins.

Wait what? Ranger patch? What is that? Are you referring to the Ranger tab or is this some weird AF thing? I'm not sure how the AF does it but in the Army anyone can go to Ranger school, it isn't restricted to certain MOSes. As a 35F I could go there (but fuck that lol) earn and wear my Ranger tab. Hell, you could be a 92S (Laundry specialist, yes that is an actual MOS) and earn your Ranger tab and be the most badass, hardcore 92S in the whole army.

If it helps kids do better in school then I guess I am for it. However, I also think having to wake up early does teach kids how to manage their time and prepares them for the real world. At my job I have to wake up and be in formation at 0630 every morning, do PT, and be at work by 0900 and usually work until 1700 (5PM). If I want to be productive and not be tired as hell at work then I have to go to sleep earlier whether I want to or not. Unlike school, you cannot just put your head down on your desk and sleep. I think the issue is more of kids not going to sleep by a reasonable time, if you went to bed by 9PM or 10PM you would be getting a full night of sleep. When I was in high school I enjoyed having class end at 1:55 every day and when I was a senior we got to leave at 1PM. It was an awesome schedule, but it got way better when I went to college. Only 3-5 hours of class a day Tuesday through Thursday, yes please! I miss college so much, 4 day weekends every week and it was so laid back.

Nice video, but that is like only a select few of what Security Forces do. You should make a video showing more of what they actually do like at 0:07. Also at 6:06 I'm pretty sure that is a US Army guy shooting a Mk. 19, actually a lot of the end of that video looks like Army guys. Don't worry, I'm just messin with the Security Forces. I make fun of my own MOS all the time too. Just to even it out here is one for me.

Based on a quick search I just did, I found that the reason black and white is a common police car design is because it was a way to recognize a patrol car from far away. This makes sense to me seeing that back before we had all the fancy police lights and decals most agencies had little to no markings on their cars, just a simple light that sometimes was only facing front. Look at most of the police cars from the 1940s and 1950s, they had little or no decals to identify them as police cars and had one, maybe two lights mounted on them.

I live on a military installation so I'd say it is pretty safe. Plus Stuttgart likes to boast that it is one of the safest places in Germany, haven't actually looked up the crime stats for different places in Germany but I don't hear about too much crime going on in Stuttgart so I take their word.

I don't understand what you are trying to say. Are you referring to Veterans Day which is on November 11th? Different countries have different names for it; Armistice Day and Remembrance Day.

The whole argument about how "knives are just as dangerous so why don't we ban knives too" is a load of BS in my opinion. For one, attacking someone with a knife is not as easy as using a firearm. Just recently there was a man in NYC who tried attacking some NYPD officers with a hatchet; luckily for the officers they were able to shoot him before he harmed anyone. If that man had a gun they might not have been able to stop him as quickly because he could just pull it out and start shooting, he wouldn't have to run up to anyone. Using a firearm is much quicker than using a knife against someone. Secondly, knives serve a purpose and are used as a tool. Now people such as myself who believe in stricter gun laws are not saying we need to ban all guns. Just like knives are used as a tool so are firearms. Firearms are used for personal protection, hunting, and sports. I am not saying those firearms need to be banned. I am saying the weapons that serve no purpose other than to be able to lay down as much fire as possible and penetrate armor need to be banned. I don't need a sniper rifle that can go through three cinder blocks like a hot knife through butter. I don't need an assault rifle with a 100 round drum magazine and neither does anyone else.

I was not trying to say that all the weapons come through crooked gun dealers. My point was that many of the weapons in Mexico come from the US and that it is extremely easy for us to get access to these weapons. There are people who go make purchases at legitimate gun stores and the owners do everything they are supposed to but they still end up in Mexico. I know why the 2nd Amendment was written, I took history class when I was in school too. Notice how all those conspiracies took place back in the 50s and 60s for the most part? That is because back then we did not have policies put into place stating that intelligence agencies such as the CIA could not collect on US citizens. Notice how none of the conspiracy theories went into the 1980s? That is because in 1981 Executive Order 12333 (the policy I just mentioned) was put into effect by President Reagan.

No offense taken. I have no issue with what you have stated, you are entitled to your opinion. I was just stating my view on it based on my experience and knowledge on the subject.

It is after midnight here and I do not feel like digging up all the resources but I did a very quick search and here is one source that should give you some satisfaction. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/atf-68000-guns-in-mexico-traced-to-us/2012/04/26/gIQAtSz9kT_story.html Police officers need those weapons to counter what the criminals have. One of the most famous cases of law enforcement being outgunned by the bad guys is the 1997 North Hollywood shootout. I am sure you have heard of it so I won't bother explaining it, but it shows that law enforcement needs to be able to match what the criminals are bringing to the table. Now this would sound like a perfect reason for civilians to have the same weapons for the same reason but I would say no. Civilians are not expected to go out and stop armed bank robbers or other criminals with high powered weapons. A civilian just needs to protect himself/herself and they do not need an assault rifle for that. Also I think it is unfair to use a Switzerland as a comparison. Many people like to use the UK or Australia as examples of countries that have strict gun laws and low gun violence, but pro-gun people would say "that isn't the same because it is a different country". I would say the same thing about Switzerland. I am stationed in Germany and have been to Switzerland. I can tell you that the culture is much different here in Europe than it is in the states, so things that work over here would not necessarily work back in the states. I never said that gun laws are the only solution. I believe it will take a combination of things to help stem firearms getting into the wrong hands. And I never said I want to take guns away from law abiding citizens, I encourage everyone to be familiar with a firearm and to keep at least one in the home for personal protection. I just think that owning assault rifles is unnecessary. There is a local gun store/range in Tampa that sold (I'm not sure if they still do or not) a .50 sniper rifle. What in the hell would a law abiding citizen need with an anti-material sniper rifle? My point is that handguns and shotguns are the best self defense weapons out there, so why does anyone need assault rifles, sub-machineguns, or anti-material sniper rifles? And I don't believe that the US is the only one to blame when it comes to the violence in Mexico but we have played a large part in it. Of course the US is not the drug cartel's only source of weapons, but the ease of access to military grade weapons in the US doesn't help.

Why? What advantage does an assault rifle have at close range over handguns and shotguns? Personally I would rather have my Glock 23 with me if someone was breaking into my house. Just because an intruder is using a certain gun doesn't mean that gun is better. I don't care if an intruder breaks into my house with an AT-4 (shoulder fired anti-tank rocket), I'd rather have my Glock.

Hey man, you brought it into this topic. I was only addressing it. Gun laws won't stop gun crimes but it will deter them. That is also why I believe the punishments for committing those crimes should be harsher so that the people who do break those laws. And by the way all the weapons trafficking in Mexico comes from the US. Mexico makes it very hard to get weapons so they all come to the US to buy their weapons because it is so easy here. So if anyone is to blame for all the gun violence in Mexico it is us.

As a member of the military I am technically part of the US government, so I am a liar and criminal? There are some politicians who actually commit crimes and are criminals but the majority of them are not. Just because you don't like the way they are doing things doesn't make them criminals. If everyone in the government is a criminal then please tell me what charges you have on them because this would be news to me.

Government and criminals are nowhere near the same. People who actually believe that those are two things are similar need to look up the definition of "criminal". While I support every person's right to own firearms (and it is something I encourage). I think there needs to be certain restrictions on what kind of firearms people can buy. Nobody needs an assault rifle. Nobody needs a huge .50 anti-material rifle. The fact that those weapons are freely available to people concerns me. I believe there should be tighter requirements to own firearms, more thorough background checks, and harsher penalties for people who break gun law or commit a crime with a firearm.

Local police don't have more power than a sheriff's deputy or trooper. I'm not sure what you mean by power, but they all have the same arrest powers. You must live in a county with few unincorporated areas because a lot of counties in Florida the S.O. is the primary law enforcement agency in the area and usually handle more called than the city PDs. What you actually do : '' target='_blank'>>

My point exactly. You must be talking about a different kind of turnstile than me. My point is that unless you go all out on the security features there will be very little that will stop a determined gunman from getting into a building.

Not sure what kind of train systems they have in Russia but here in the U.S. and many other countries we have turnstiles and if someone wants to get past them without paying they just jump over them. I doubt a turnstile would have slowed a gunman down, he would have just hopped over it and continue on his way. Are these facts or are you just making big assumptions?

Couldn't tell ya, I don't wear women's watches and haven't really looked for at any. I'm sure you could look through their website in the women's section and find something that you like.