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Before i became a LEO, i carried mine (concealed) but I always felt it would deter crime. I have open carried it before, and (when i was younger of course) it would deter fights etc. If another kid at high school or college wanted to come up and start crap, they didn't when I had a gun. That sort of thing. I suppose if someone is hell bent and shooting something up (school, mall, whatever) if they saw a gun they'd be a first target. As far as robberies go, that would be the opposite, atleast in terms of one on one "I pull a gun give me your wallet" type deal. People like that are cowards, and they will go to people who aren't armed. As far as open carry, as a LEO, it gets people scared, I think nothing of it when i see someone walking in walmart with a holstered gun. As a person, they have their right to defend themselves, whether it be open carry or concealed. I see both sides of the issue.

Yea, Also... no I don't have it. I worked as a computer repair tech before becoming a police officer. I've worked on a few with Windows 8, Like someone said earlier, it makes simple tasks on 7, more complex. So, maybe saying it takes functionality away is wrong, but i know for sure it takes simple things longer. Getting into control panel, device managers, everything like that. I've heard (from other reliable sources) that advanced functionality is limited compared to 7 and XP. So from my personal experience I just hate the UI, going from XP to 7 was an easy transition. From working on the 8s (that needed repair) to the one I built with 7 on it, was a lot more difficult. I'm sure you can learn it all though, the internet has all the info on there. I just prefer 7's layout, and like i said I believe it gives you more control over your system. Even if its just passively restricting things. I guess it's hard for me to explain. Either or, its no VISTA so you probably won't go wrong either way.

I wouldn't, even with the (8.1) upate. It was an OS built to work on tablets. It takes away a TON of control from the user. If you arent an advanced user, it might not be a big deal. For someone who wants full control of their computer, I'd stay with 7. All games/programs I've seen are still compatible with 7, so i Wouldnt chance. My next build im using Win 7 still. Just my opinion

I have a 1911 as my personal carry gun. However, my department uses Glock 40s, both are very reliable guns. The glock will fire in damn near any condition and I've heard of guys that havent cleaning it in years and it still fires. I personally would get a 1911, I have a Remington R1 enhanced stainless steel. It's sorta expensive but its a beauty to look at and shoot. i've gotten many compliments because of it.

Like the other guy said, one stick of ram is a bad idea. If it happens to go bad... your in trouble. Get 2 4gb sticks. Also, Liquid cooling, like you said.. I use it and i overclock, if you don't intent to OC you probably won't need it. depending on how much money you can save, I'd really try to get an intel CPU (I'm an intel guy, but the corei7s are amazing) It looks decent though. Im a huge supporter of building on your own, but your getting charged a huge amount for labor here too. It's much cheaper to actually order the parts off newegg and build yourself, but if you don't have the no how, this is the next best thing. Looks decent, for sure though, 2 stick of ram man.

GTX 560ti 750W PWS. Runs it on max about 40fps High about 50-55

There is a way, I read a guide on how to do it awhile back, I'd just try googling it. By the way, North Yankton is a mimic of North Dakota! Look closely at the police vehicles then at NDHP vehicles. (almost identical) plus the weather mimics it exactly haha.

Yes, Thank you very much! It's awesome how much more stable it is now, and all the new features! It's great. I hope R* takes notice of the great work you guys have done here! Your donations should spike this month! Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to you all!

I'm more of an INTEL guy, but from what i can see those are compatible with each other, and they have pretty good specs. I would consider getting a slightly largers Power supply. 500W is pretty low these days, id go with atleast a 700W. At the bottom is the link for your CPU, I would definitely buy it from newegg instead of amazon. I couldnt find the exact specs on amazon, so i got it on newegg. Hope it helps, if you have any more ?s qoute me and ill answer them! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113280

You'll definitely see the biggest improvement in RAM. That's for sure. Good luck!

RAM man, it is DEFINITELY your RAM. I have a 560 ti (slightly better) and i run it on high no problems. I have 8gb of ram, the thing is, with how GTA was optimized you need RAM definitely atleast 6gb of ram. Youll notice a huge difference. As for a new Card, The 660 Ti would be a great choice, i believe its right around $200. Ram is extremely inexpensive these days. If you need any help lemme know! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231455 I have this exact Ram, and it works great. Like original said, 8gb is great, if you have to buy both i think 6 would suffice however, if you can afford 8 though, go for it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121660 That's the card I'd buy, you even get two free ($60) games, i have the same card just in 560 form. All under $300 ;) hope it helps!

Opening up this thread again, but i was literally reading this with thoughts on recommending it to you. I own mine, been runing for 2 years strong and havent had an issue. It won't max out the newest games, but it runs everything on high with no problems. GREAT CARD FOR THE MONEY!

Hey guys, what do you think of this computer I'm going to build (second build by myself). Pretty set on intel over AMD, but any other suggestions of things I'll look at. I got a pretty good budget as you can tell. CPU: Intel 3930K hex core I believe running at 3.2Ghz (overclockable to 5 from what I've been reading) Liquid cooled by a Corsair hydro H100i Mobo: Asus p9X79 (LGA 2011) Case: Corsair Carbike 400R Mid tower SSD: Corsair neutron 240gb (I'll run windows 7 on here, and other stuff) HDD: Seagate hybrid (like a SSHD i guess, read its about 2-3 times faster than a regualr HDD) 1Tb (I'll throw steam games on here) Video Card: EVGA GTX 760 2gb PS: Rosewill Lightning 800W Modular RAM: Gskil Sniper 16Gb (i forget the speed, i believe its 2133) What do you guys think, the whole thing will be a little under 2 grand. I', still debating on dropping down to a Ivy bridge i7 (quad core) over the hex, and save about $200 but idk, go big or go home.

It isn't a gaming labtop, but you should have no problems running it on Medium settings without EMB. If you can run it SP your should be fine MP as long as you have a decent internet connection. Like someone said, www.systemrequirementslab.com makes it very easy to see if you can or can't run it. I don't see a problem though. Congrats

This looks awesome, this might not be the right place but should i uninstall everything and start clean? Will this overwrite other LCPDFR files or...... Thanks!

The same goes for me, it gets heated.

Totally, you are from a different place with different rules, and a much different situation. Its like growing up with your parents liking a football team, and you follow suite. It's how people are raised and where they grow up. I can understand and respect that. Here, there is just to much crime involving violence and firearms to disarm our police now. Like you said, for as long as you can remember cops weren't armed, here its the opposite, since our founding our police have been armed, so changing either for your country or mine wouldnt make much sense. I see where its hard for you to see the justification of that shooting, as I find it hard to believe you guys get through with no guns in your everyday patrol officers. So i understand where your coming from.

Fair enough, i agree with what your saying, I have to apologize for my earlier posts. Things got heated, but im glad we're in agreement. I remember the instructors at the academy telling stories of having to write a report everytime they drew their gun, honestly not a bad policy, unfortunately today they would be writing way to many reports.

This situation is one of the very grey areas, because yes.... He hadn't shot anyone, he probably didn't even mean to crash into that vehicle. Morally i won't answer, because everyone WILL have a different answer. By law i believe it was justified. If it would have been me, I don't think I would have shot, There is a lot of discretion. The law can't account for every single situation that is bound to happen, so this is where discretion comes in. Some cops have good discretion, some don't . This is... unrelated, but an officer in my state dealt with a situation where... at first glance, it looked like he was a horrible person. He was called to a suicidal child (Idk the exact age but it was less than 10) upon arriving the kid had a knife to his throat, and was telling the officer he was going to kill himself. The officer tazed the kid. When i first heard about it, i thought "He tazed a child that young? Then you think critically about it? He probably saved that kid from injuring himself, and the officer. We don't know what the kid was planning to do, maybe nothing, but maybe if that officer would have stepped closer, he would of actually cut himself. Again, its unrelated obviously, but it shows the grey area, and the discretion that has to be used. I think he probably saved that kid from serious harm that he could have done to himself, It would be unlikely a child could actually kill the officer, but the main thing is he may have actually saved that kids life. So you allow him a 5 second taze, and save his life. But at first glance, its kind of a WTF moment. It's situations like these, people just don't understand. You are correct, if his escape was impossible, shooting would not be justified. My scenario was pulled just out of my head, but yes your right. Say it was a small county, a town of maybe 500, two sheriffs deputies on scene and thats it. His escape would be likely if the sheriff just pulls up. But yes you are right, if the suspects escape is impossible, it would not be a good idea to shoot. In this case, he was trying to escape, was it likely that he get away from the 20 officers behind him? No, it wasn't . I won't say LAPD doesn't know what they're doing though.

It depends on the totality of the circumstances. To make it very easy, A suspect walks into a bank, shoots 20 people dead. Takes the money walks out.Upon seeing cops, he drops his weapon, turns away, and RUNS. The police are allowed to shoot him. He shot 20 people (obviously a danger to sociecty and has no value towards human life). So to answer your question hoenstly, It depends on the totality of the circumstances. It's hard to judge black or white, in this area it's a lot of grey area. Our job description does include a clause of "Would have to be willing to use deadly force if the situtation requires it" So in a sense, the answer is yes and no. Could police shoot a shoplifter who drops a gun and runs out, No. Could they shoot a bank robber who just killed 20 people a minute ago, while his back is turned, unarmed. Yes, I believe they could. I'm not a judge, I can give you my best opinion on the matter, but in a court of law is where the decision will be made. In this case, I would say it will be upheld, we don't know a lot of things about this case, We do know he used deadly force against a civilian, then tried escaping. LAPD have a bad reputation, I won't argue that, but they (out of all police, excluding maybe chicago and NYPD) have the most experience in dealing with these situations. All i ask is people to look at it from a neutral point of view, You don't have to agree with me, but sitting behind a computer ripping them apart and informing them of everything they missed, is irrelevant. So, i think i answered all your questions, and if you have further questions feel free to ask. I'm by no means an expert on the matter (When i say that I mean i'm not considered an expert in a court of law) but I have been through classes on use of force, and a whole seperate class on deadly force in particular. So, the bank robber that killed 20 people, and leaves dropping his weapon (to where we can assume he is no longer a threat) BUT still tries escaping, can be legally shot. Even behind the back. The rational here is what could he do if he does escape, he could go rob another bank, and the same thing over. There is a limit to what extent the law can be so particular to, like i said, there is a lot of grey area here. A lot of decisions made on the fly, but in the end, we don't need to critizise officer shootings until they are done and over with. (Investigated) Everyone has their opinion, and I'm not some Nazi who will only accept my belief as the right one, I stated earlier we need checks and balances, but sitting behind a computer ripping apart officers who had to make a split second decision, one that will impact them for the rest of their lives is ignorant and selfish. I've read about the effects shooting someone has on police officers, When I was in the academy i read "On Killing" by Dave Grossman, Thankfully I've never had to take a life, but I'd imagine it's a very bad feeling, and long lasting feeling. I can honestly say in my opinion 90% of cops are good, and willing to uphold the law. Theres the bad 10 % but even out of those 10, I feel very few would be willin to go cowboy on someone. It's against human nature to take the life of another human. It's like a psychological thing. Police officers don't join up going "I hope i get to shoot somebody".

Actually, I am, I'm far from behind a desk. I'm not too worried about a heart attack, I've been in much more stressfull situations than dealing with the un educated public on how to do my job. If it was common sense then why is it not in the LAW. Shooting someone in the back gives the same ending as in the front, it makes no difference when you're dealing with the public's safety and our own officers. This is exactly why there is so much police stress, people like you. People who can never been anywhere near a situation, but sit back and let everyone know what they did wrong, and inform us of the laws we enforce on a daily basis. I take pride in my job, and in doing it well, I sure you hope you atleast enjoy critizising the people that might just show up to your house someday for something. There's no sense arguing with someone who won't take the time to do a little reading. As you said, Good day.

Actually, you're quite wrong. A cop can use deadly force against an individual he has probable cause to assume he has a weapon. Or has used a weapon. You are ignorant if you think we wait for them to aim a gun at use before we shoot. Action is faster than reaction. We react to things the suspect does. There's no way in hell I'm going to wait for someone to point their gun at me before I shoot. It's how we were trained. Also, as I've said, read a fucking law book. It's justified under law to shoot an escaping suspect who poses a great danger to society. This guy struck a civilian vehicle while running from police. So instead of telling us (the actual LEO's) who have trained for this, and some of us even been in situations like this. You should actually seek the training and knowledge we have before telling us we're wrong. You can argue morally whether it was right or wrong, but legally this is justified. You will see that when no charges are brought against the officer. You are the typical person critizising police actions, yet you have "all the answers", put yourself in that situation, ever had a real gun aimed at you? It scares you shitless, you dont WAIT for them to fucking aim it at you. You react to force used against you. It's quicker for a suspect to pull a gun and shoot then it is for a cop to mentally react and then pull his gun and shoot. He used deadly force on a civilian vehicle, and still tried to escape afterwards, he was shot for it, and while it may not have been the ideal outcome, it was certainly justified. So don't tell me, (and other LEOS) when we can, and can't fire our weapons for our safety and the public. We've actually been trained, not some know-it-all who reads shit on the internet. As someone up above stated, I seriously hope some of you people are never my backup, you'd do more harm then good by critizising every action we do.

Im honestly done, There is no point in arguing with a civilian set on his views. Regardless of whether its right or wrong morally, in the lawbook this was justified. As you will find out if you actually follow this. Goodnight.

James Holmes surrendered. He gave up, This guy tried backing out his crashed vehicle, and then tried to escape on foot. Cops didn't take the chance that he would escape. Holmes surrendered. There is a difference. Even if he was injured, even after a car crash, he still did not surrender, and they didn't take the chance that he would escape and cause more harm.

You're right, it shouldnt be what if's, but these decisions are made split second. There wasn't time to sit down and debate facts. A fact was this person was a danger to society, and there was a good chance, that he was STILL a danger to society. Even if he didn't show it at the time, he was at one point, using deadly force. Those officers used discretion and assumed he could use deadly force again.