DivineHustle

Of course, I completely understand what you're saying. My comment was more so directed towards the guy that said he doesn't support law enforcement; but I'd also like to mention that, in the United States, a vast majority of Americans have a favorable view of law enforcement. If you were to conduct a line-up of those that have an unfavorable view of law enforcement in the United States and look at how many of the participants have criminal records and other various law violations, I think it's safe to say that a very tiny percentage of Americans (that have no law violations) would find it "...difficult, or even impossible for some people, to support the police as a whole and view the police as a whole as a good entity."

The key word here is "many". "Many", of our law enforcement officers' are indeed trigger-happy, careless, and corrupt. "Many" isn't necessarily the same as "majority", in which the issue would be much more significant and dire if a majority of our law enforcement officers' fit any of the words I've posted previously; that's not the case though. I don't find it logical to judge an entire group of people based on the actions of a few. You (hopefully) wouldn't see a black person mug someone and think that all black people are thugs. So why would you take a bad officer and think that all Police are crooks? I don't support our government, but I support our law enforcement to the fullest. You actually reminded me to put my Blue Lives Matter sticker on my car today.

Thought I was going to have to jump into the discussion for a second. You’ve said everything so I’ll just hit “like” on your comment. Well said!

I agree. I will say that it did make me chuckle at first, but there are millions of Americans that would believe this and share it across social media in a paraphrased fashion. It’s also a double-standard. It’s funny to make fun of something Trump did/would say, but if we were to crack a joke about black people or gay people, suddenly it’s not funny. If that’s the illogical implication that you got from my post, then sure.

This isn’t funny at all, because there are a lot of morons out there that would actually believe this to be true. Websites like this are literally the source is fake news across the globe.

War may not be funny, but suggesting we trust in the judiciary system is. Why would I have trust in a system that’ll allow a rapist a small sentence with parole, but sentence a substance abuser to upwards of 15 years?

Of course , I was just being a bit jocular to lighten the mood some.

Oh let me guess, you’re going to call me a POG next? Lol

PTSD is very complex and has a wide variety of differentiating circumstances from person to person. I don’t see how you’re logically comparing shooting a home intruder versus deploying overseas. I’m not going to get PTSD from shooting a man who may have had intentions on raping my wife, or my children, or murdering us cold blooded. Defending your home isn’t the same as deploying overseas, your argument is a fallacy. It depends entirely on the circumstances of the situation. Sometimes eleminating the threat is de-escalating the situation. I’m not going to get into a debate about this because it’s a subject that clearly neither of us have much knowledge on, though I do have a little more than you do. I don’t care if you don’t believe that I’m in the Army. You’re free to believe in whatever you like man, I’m not here to brag or be pretentious about that. It’s something that I’m very prideful about, but it doesn’t make me better than people that decided not to join. Lol, you’ve clearly never met the US Army Infantry my friend. These guys are eager to deploy and eliminate threats. It’s almost crazy. Of course there are those that have issues when they come back, and even while they’re overseas. But I guarantee you that a significant majority of these guys (based on what I hear at my unit) don’t think twice and wouldn’t think twice. That type of mindset is what’ll get you killed overseas, is what my Battalion Sergeant Major said to us during a formation a while back. You do what you need to do to come home safely. If you’re not in that mindset, you’re in for a rude-awakening. Most of us aren’t happy and excited to kill people, but we won’t hesitate to do so for each other and to come back safely. If the mission is accomplished and all of our guys are safe, we’re up. That’s the reality of it. You wouldn’t understand because you don’t have the same mindset that we do. Maybe if you were deployable within the next few weeks you’d be able to relate more.

If you’re in my home, you’re a threat. If you’re a threat, I’m taking your life and I won’t think twice about it. You’re right, taking a life may have a series of (negative) effects on someone, but that’s not the case for me. I’m not killing someone that’s innocent, I’m killing someone that had intentions to harm me and my family. I wouldn’t hesitate to pull the trigger to save my own life or a loved ones life. And I guarantee you that most Americans feel the same on that. I’m also not an average Joe. As cheesy as it sounds, I’m a soldier. I don’t have the same mindset as an average Joe that can’t be deployed to Afghanistan within the next few weeks if needed.

It should be up to me to decide how I defend my family. And I will my friend.

Yes that’s absolutely correct. If a criminal threatens me or my family, I’m taking their life, because screw them and they don’t deserve to be on this planet with the rest of us that have some sense.

You got it all twisted my man. You’ve got it twisted like a vanilla and chocolate swirl ice cream machine. Twisted like the way Mars Inc. claims the caramel is on their Twix chocolate candy. We can all look at the sky and see that the sun is rising. And even if we can’t see it rising, there’s an overwhelming level of scientific evidence that shows that the sun rises and sets. My point is that just because you look out your window and see something doesn’t necessarily make it factual or true, or imply that it could be that way everywhere across the world. You may not have an outright ban in the literal sense, but realistically speaking, guns are practically banned there. A fighting chance is better than no chance. Millions of armed Americans that know how to use their weapons versus a tyrannical government. Obviously the government is going to have the upper hand, but then we get into the whole American Revolutionary War thing and how that worked out for the tyrannical government. I also guarantee you that Americans wouldn’t march down our own neighborhoods and take away our own rights and oppress our own families and people. The government would have to use some sort of force, and I’m sure a majority within all potential forces would agree that they wouldn’t oblige. We, US Soldiers, take an oath to defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. If the government is our domestic threat, then it’s our duty to bring it down, which is why the 2nd Amendment is there. I’d also like to remind you that a vast majority of American law enforcement believe that more gun owners will reduce shootings against Police.... who’d a thought. I would highly suggest you refresh on American history, friend.

I agree with you, but I think it’s safe to say that the founding fathers weren’t stupid. They had the intelligence to be able to recognize the fact that, with time, technology would develop. They knew that weaponry would also develop, which I’m sure is why they didn’t specifically mention muskets with the 2nd Amendment. If the government can have the latest weaponry, the citizens (to an extent) should also be able to have some of the same weaponry. What’s the purpose of the 2nd Amendment if the government has assault rifles and we have blunderbusses? Looking out the window isn’t based on fact but one individual perspective. Americans overwhelmingly realize that doing what y’all did in France isn’t the logical solution here. Like I’ve said previously, a minority of Americans want an outright ban, but a vast majority agree to more “common sense” laws. No need to get into the ad-hominem man. We just know how our own country works better than others, and we actually value our Constitution and liberties.

It’s funny because you continue to say the same thing each time a topic like this is created, and the facts literally say otherwise. A lot of the arguments that you continue to bring up have already been proven to be fallacies, a lot of them logical fallacies. While you continue to face palm about an issue with no simple or easy solution, I’ll continue to face palm as a minority of Americans along with people overseas continue to make statements containing completely unviable suggestions.

1) We can play the “what if” game all day about anything. We can’t make decisions based on the probability of (highly) unlikely hypothetical situations. Why would I eat if there’s a chance that something could be wrong with the food? Why would I drive if there’s a possibility of me getting into a wreck? Why would I get a job if I could lose it and have to find another anyways? The system wouldn’t be as simple-minded as throwing a gun into a classroom and hoping for the best. There’d be clear procedures, specific regulations, teacher trainings, parental and law enforcement involvement, etc. It’s the same as officers having guns on their waists or in their vehicles. What happens if someone tries to grab their weapon from their waist or their vehicle? Maybe we should disarm the police to prevent that from happening. 2) That is false. More guns don’t equal more crime. Whether or not guns should be banned isn’t up for debate, It’s already been decided on. Guns won’t be banned and the American people don’t want a ban on handguns or assault weapons. Most Americans actually believe that more guns would help reduce mass shootings. What’s also interesting is the fact that Americans as a whole don’t even believe that the gun control situation is the biggest issue facing the country. That’s also a terrible source that you’ve provided. I visited the website just now and I don’t see how you can take anything they post seriously, because it’s biased as hell man. Each article I read they’re just making a mockery of the right-wing and Donald Trump. A neutral and professional news source would give us the information and not make snark/ad-hominem attacks on the side. For me personally, assuming you got your charts from this source, that entire argument is rendered invalid due to the partisan that the site clearly shows, unless you can provide an additional source. If you’d like my sources, I’m happy to grab them from the last debate. 3) I understand your point man but it’s still a relatively retarded concept, in my opinion. Putting up a sign isn’t going to prevent anything, whether it’s accidental or intentional. The only person that would obey a gun-free zone is a law-abiding citizen that probably wouldn’t do anything stupid or illegal to begin with. The gun-loving folks are supported by the Constitution, the US Supreme Court, and the rest of the country. You are in the shrinking minority. That’d be because most Americans believe that more guns will decrease the number of mass shootings. The shooting happened in a gun free school. Everyone was at the mercy of the shooter. If he wanted to keep slaughtering he could have done so and nothing would have been done until the Police arrived. In a location with a gun owner, they can at least attempt to put a stop to it. Depending on the Police for everything will get you killed. A few weeks living in Baltimore taught me that. So now why do you think that criminals leave the city to get their weapons where laws are more relaxed, and then return to the city where laws are more strict? Because law-abiding gun owners can’t defend themselves due to the strict laws. Criminals don’t have to be concerned with getting blasted by a home owner during a burglary or intrusion. I also saw you say earlier that lawmakers aren’t stupid. I dissent, lawmakers are completely foolish. It’s exactly why our congress can barely hit the double digits for approval ratings. The number of individual Americans that own guns isn’t necessarily relevant. It’s the number of homes with a gun present, which is about 48% and growing. I can provide my sources if you’d like to see them. I’m on my phone which is why I didn’t post them originally.

Definitely sad and unfortunate. Condolences to the families that lost loved ones. School shootings? No, there’s only been 4 others this year.

Well, statistically speaking, Americans aren't losing faith in law enforcement at all. American faith in law enforcement is actually at a record high and it's continuing to increase. Our law enforcement aren't perfect, and no one should expect them to be because they're human, but I'm not really worried about it. I'd say we've got other things to be worried about right now. I'm on my phone but I'll take the time to go and grab the statistics if you like. Well you can't really compare a religion of murder, oppression, and destruction to a government force who's purpose is to protect and serve.

I'm happy for you brother but that was painful for me to read, my man.

Trying to think of how prohibiting people from purchasing lights and sirens would impede on any sort of liberties/freedoms. None come to mind at all. But just because we say that something is illegal doesn't mean that people are going to oblige. I say leave it how it is and deal with it case by case. That's the easiest and more viable solution.

Good that no officers were hurt!

Because there's no way in hell that Rockstar just has no idea about any of this. They've never heard of LCPDFR or LSPDFR. They've never heard of this website. They just don't know that there's an entire community based on it. Of course not... lmao The only reason I still play GTA and even bought it again for PC was for LSPDFR. If LSPDFR didn't exist, my GTA 5 would probably be back behind the TV stand or something.

Rockstar still hasn't offered Y'all any jobs yet?

Absolutely horrible. Condolences to the family. Blue lives matter! Thank you for your service to our communities good sir.

The electoral college is a much-needed part of our system.