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1 hour ago, TheDivineHustle said:

Citizens are protected (to an extent) by their first amendment rights to insult police officers without legal rebuttal, but aren't police officers also protected under the first amendment to respond freely?

I'm more than sure policy prohibits swearing back OTJ. It disgraces the agency. How strict would the department enforce such policy may vary, but I'm confident a video recording with a cop and a civilian shouting obscenities at each other would result in something baaad for the cop.

 

On the other hand, a public servant shall be protected by the law. Again here in Russia offending a public official with regard to his official capacity is an offence. Moreover such official has the right to sue the foul-mouthed civilian and claim compensation -- just like any regular citizen.

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    because that is a right guaranteed by the first amendment. Im not a lawyer or an expert (or a cop), but from my limited knowledge, as long as he isnt threatening anyone, he can call them whatever he w

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    OfficerFive0 is correct.  Even if the person is screaming at you and saying the worst things imaginable, it's still Freedom of Speech.  If there was someone following the officer to his work, to his h

On 8/24/2017 at 4:47 PM, CHR1570PH3R said:

Whats this other one I have been watching where on traffic stops they tell the police they are not driving, they are travelling which doesn't require a licence and so on? If they are behind the wheel and the vehicle is moving then they are bloody driving in my opinion lol

America has our fair share of sovereign citizens. These fuckers claim that they are not American citizens despite being born & raised in the nation, rather they are "free inhabitants" of the land of (whatever the fuck). Their idea is that they are exempt from any and all laws and regulations, and they claim that no law enforcement officer has any sort of power over them. This makes them exceptionally dangerous, as they're willing to use lethal force to enforce these ideas. Their basis comes from the Articles of Confederation, the document that governed America before the Constitution was ratified in 1789. The AoC is completely null and void, but they still abide by their principles. What you described is either a sovereign citizen or a cop block retard. Sovereigns love to use flashy words and phrases in hopes of confusing the officer (a car is a conveyance, their house is their domicile, they do not drive, they travel, etc.) 

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1 minute ago, TA120 said:

America has our fair share of sovereign citizens. These fuckers claim that they are not American citizens despite being born & raised in the nation, rather they are "free inhabitants" of the land of (whatever the fuck). Their idea is that they are exempt from any and all laws and regulations, and they claim that no law enforcement officer has any sort of power over them. This makes them exceptionally dangerous, as they're willing to use lethal force to enforce these ideas. Their basis comes from the Articles of Confederation, the document that governed America before the Constitution was ratified in 1789. The AoC is completely null and void, but they still abide by their principles. What you described is either a sovereign citizen or a cop block retard. Sovereigns love to use flashy words and phrases in hopes of confusing the officer (a car is a conveyance, their house is their domicile, they do not drive, they travel, etc.) 

That is unbelievable, and they actually get away with it most of the time.

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1 hour ago, CHR1570PH3R said:

That is unbelievable, and they actually get away with it most of the time.

It depends. If they carry themselves out in a manner in compliance with the law, they won't be bothered despite their pants on head retarded beliefs. But they go so far as to make homemade license plates, homemade drivers licenses & other documents, etc. Basically anything associated with the U.S. government (or state or local), they refuse. It's pretty common for an officer to arrest a sovereign, and then the sovereign places a multi-million dollar lien on the officer's house. The issue with sovereigns is that they truly believe what they preach, and they're willing (and have before) to use deadly force against officers. Cop blockers on the other hand are just dickheads that enjoy fucking with cops, when in reality they more than likely do not "know their rights" and end up in cuffs anyway.

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