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Crashing Issue

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Hello, and sorry for about posting too many stuff but it is just a horrible week for me.

I have a problem with my GTA 4 and the issue is that it keeps crashing on me when it says Loading - The Cousin Bellic.                                                                                                                 Here is my GTA IV Folder if you would like to see what's inside.

GTA IV Folder

Thanks.

Edited by Rareroblox

On 09/05/2016 at 4:05 PM, Rareroblox said:

Hello, and sorry for about posting too many stuff but it is just a horrible week for me.

I have a problem with my GTA 4 and the issue is that it keeps crashing on me when it says Loading - The Cousin Bellic.                                                                                                                 Here is my GTA IV Folder if you would like to see what's inside.

GTA IV Folder

Thanks.

This one is an oldie I think.   There are 2-3 GTA IV story missions that causes the game to crash immediately when loading into the world while having LCPDFR installed.

There is one towards the end of the game which I remember is 100% crash rate.  

But you are talking about the very first one I believe. Driving the taxi to your apartment right??  Which I recall sometimes crashing for me,  but not always.

 

Can you try to complete a few of the beginning missions without LCPDFR loading in.   And is it LCPDFR version 1.1 that you have?

 

I don't know if you can just disable LCPDFR from a 'ini' setting and load the game for a few missions.  Or if you have to play from a fresh copy of GTA IV.  This is the only thing I can think of right now.

 

I hope it is not anymore complicated then that.  I saw your system specs with Windows 10 and from that I'm a bit hesitant to give advice.  Gaming wise, it is another can of worms and I'm completely clueless on how to diagnose and help.   

 

Edited by KyneiZero
posted wrong version of LCPDFR

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On May 13, 2016 at 8:51 PM, KyneiZero said:

This one is an oldie I think.   There are 2-3 GTA IV story missions that causes the game to crash immediately when loading into the world while having LCPDFR installed.

There is one towards the end of the game which I remember is 100% crash rate.  

But you are talking about the very first one I believe. Driving the taxi to your apartment right??  Which I recall sometimes crashing for me,  but not always.

 

Can you try to complete a few of the beginning missions without LCPDFR loading in.   And is it LCPDFR version 1.0d that you have?

 

I don't know if you can just disable LCPDFR from a 'ini' setting and load the game for a few missions.  Or if you have to play from a fresh copy of GTA IV.  This is the only thing I can think of right now.

 

I hope it is not anymore complicated then that.  I saw your system specs with Windows 10 and from that I'm a bit hesitant to give advice.  Gaming wise, it is another can of worms and I'm completely clueless on how to diagnose and help.   

 

I am technically not at The Cousin Bellic Mission. I am really at Bouys Ahoy. I don't really want to restart doing all of the missions again cause I took like a year doing that.

On 14/05/2016 at 9:15 AM, Rareroblox said:

I am technically not at The Cousin Bellic Mission. I am really at Bouys Ahoy. I don't really want to restart doing all of the missions again cause I took like a year doing that.

I agree I wouldn't bother either.   It could be a different problem altogether.

Does it load into the apartment/safehouse and then crash,  or does it not even finish loading the world and Niko?

 

I have only one idea left to check and see if the mission is the issue.  And btw I listed the wrong LCPDFR version earlier.  You are running the latest v1.1 correct?

Look inside the /scripts folder in your GTAIV directory.  MOVE the file "LCPDFR Loader.net.dll" out of scripts.  (LCPDFR will not be loaded into the game)  If you want LCPDFR to run again just move the file back.

And see if the game consistently loads or crashes with and without LCPDFR loading at all.

 

Good luck!

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19 hours ago, KyneiZero said:

I agree I wouldn't bother either.   It could be a different problem altogether.

Does it load into the apartment/safehouse and then crash,  or does it not even finish loading the world and Niko?

 

I have only one idea left to check and see if the mission is the issue.  And btw I listed the wrong LCPDFR version earlier.  You are running the latest v1.1 correct?

Look inside the /scripts folder in your GTAIV directory.  MOVE the file "LCPDFR Loader.net.dll" out of scripts.  (LCPDFR will not be loaded into the game)  If you want LCPDFR to run again just move the file back.

And see if the game consistently loads or crashes with and without LCPDFR loading at all.

 

Good luck!

It crashes when it says at the black screen Loading - Bouys Ahoy and then the music stops for 1 second and then goes for another second and crashes. Keeps doing it. Yes, I am running v1.1. Where do I move the LCPDFR Loader.net.dll to?

Edited by Rareroblox

9 hours ago, Rareroblox said:

It crashes when it says at the black screen Loading - Bouys Ahoy and then the music stops for 1 second and then goes for another second and crashes. Keeps doing it. Yes, I am running v1.1. Where do I move the LCPDFR Loader.net.dll to?

Sorry for the late odd hour replies.  Quite a few evening shifts this month and I can only hop on every so often. (that's why I normally avoid posting support at all.)

I'm going to guess you probably have tried to move it already.   If not,  then the point is simply to move it out of scripts folder so that lcpdfr will not load when you start GTA IV.

And if the game no longer crashes,  then we have a pretty good idea that whatever is being loaded by the game for that mission does not like LCPDFR being loaded as well.(but try putting the file back,  run this test 2-3 more times to be sure)

 

Continuing on that thought,  the game auto loads your main save and the current mission.  I can't think of anything other than having a different mission as your save.  =So warning.  I have tried to replace my save game before and it didn't go well.  You can not just copy someone else's save file and replace your file.  There is something related to user id, or another savegame file check that occurs(I could be wrong about this, testing from over 2 years ago.)   

 

So if your issue seems to match up with what I posted so far.     I have one more idea to share.

(This is a strong warning, I run Windows 7 and this technique works for me.  I don't think Win 10 would affect this simple process.  But good luck to you and hopefully you get it to work.)

 

Take a look at the "LCPDFR Install (ASI Loaders)" folder inside the GTAIV folder.  You should see 2 files inside that,     dsound.dll & xlive.dll.

Only one of those files should appear in your main GTAIV folder.  And "i think" the files affect whether GFWL loads at startup.  There shouldn't be any issues changing this if you play only singleplayer GTAIV.

When I change mine around,  a different save profile/game is loaded. My dsound.dll one is midgame and with xlive loaded it is only 3 missions in.

 

I see dsound.dll in your GTAIV folder.  Move the file out to a temp folder or where ever you like.  Copy xlive.dll into GTAIV.

Start the game and it will likely begin a new game,  and so just play 2-3 missions and save/quit.  Start GTAIV again to make sure that it doesn't crash at the load screen from this new mission.  If it works okay,  make sure not to progress in the missions with the xlive.dll playthrough.    (If you want your completed savegame back,  just delete xlive.dll and put dsound.dll back.)

 

And I do wish someone else can also post some info about this.  Save games are a little tricky with GTA IV and I don't want to mess up your progress.

 

From your picture,  you are missing the ASI Loader folder!!   I hope that is updated now because LCPDFR v1.1 normal copies that,  but people often remove it after installing.

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On May 17, 2016 at 5:34 AM, KyneiZero said:

Sorry for the late odd hour replies.  Quite a few evening shifts this month and I can only hop on every so often. (that's why I normally avoid posting support at all.)

I'm going to guess you probably have tried to move it already.   If not,  then the point is simply to move it out of scripts folder so that lcpdfr will not load when you start GTA IV.

And if the game no longer crashes,  then we have a pretty good idea that whatever is being loaded by the game for that mission does not like LCPDFR being loaded as well.(but try putting the file back,  run this test 2-3 more times to be sure)

 

Continuing on that thought,  the game auto loads your main save and the current mission.  I can't think of anything other than having a different mission as your save.  =So warning.  I have tried to replace my save game before and it didn't go well.  You can not just copy someone else's save file and replace your file.  There is something related to user id, or another savegame file check that occurs(I could be wrong about this, testing from over 2 years ago.)   

 

So if your issue seems to match up with what I posted so far.     I have one more idea to share.

(This is a strong warning, I run Windows 7 and this technique works for me.  I don't think Win 10 would affect this simple process.  But good luck to you and hopefully you get it to work.)

 

Take a look at the "LCPDFR Install (ASI Loaders)" folder inside the GTAIV folder.  You should see 2 files inside that,     dsound.dll & xlive.dll.

Only one of those files should appear in your main GTAIV folder.  And "i think" the files affect whether GFWL loads at startup.  There shouldn't be any issues changing this if you play only singleplayer GTAIV.

When I change mine around,  a different save profile/game is loaded. My dsound.dll one is midgame and with xlive loaded it is only 3 missions in.

 

I see dsound.dll in your GTAIV folder.  Move the file out to a temp folder or where ever you like.  Copy xlive.dll into GTAIV.

Start the game and it will likely begin a new game,  and so just play 2-3 missions and save/quit.  Start GTAIV again to make sure that it doesn't crash at the load screen from this new mission.  If it works okay,  make sure not to progress in the missions with the xlive.dll playthrough.    (If you want your completed savegame back,  just delete xlive.dll and put dsound.dll back.)

 

And I do wish someone else can also post some info about this.  Save games are a little tricky with GTA IV and I don't want to mess up your progress.

 

From your picture,  you are missing the ASI Loader folder!!   I hope that is updated now because LCPDFR v1.1 normal copies that,  but people often remove it after installing.

I took out the LCPDFR Loader.net.dll and it is still not working, it is still crashing

2 hours ago, Rareroblox said:

I took out the LCPDFR Loader.net.dll and it is still not working, it is still crashing

That sucks.  Hoping it was one of the older issues that has been found.

So it could be GTA IV and Windows 10 issue. But you were able to play it before right? And I mean the basic GTA 4 game story mode and no mods/lcpdfr installed. 

 

I'm out of ideas.  Any troubleshooting and repetitive testing that I'm willing to do,  I don't expect others to go through the same.  Plus I don't think it will work(so you'll prob just waste half a day reinstalling).  I'm not sure how to continue even with the support guides on this forum, because I don't how much of it applies to Windows 10.    

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