With the final vote in the Senate soon approaching, I was curious to see how others felt about the legislation. 

 

I'm not a supporter. Any oil moved through this pipeline to the gulf will be going overseas, and the profits to Canadian oil companies. I don't see how it is anything but a handout to these oil companies. It barely creates any jobs, certainly not a number worth the cost of undertaking such a project. Not to mention the fact that constructing this pipeline would require the use of eminent domain to steal land from private citizens, something I'm very strongly opposed to. 

 

An amendment was proposed (unfortunately tabled by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell) that would have prevented a foreign company from seizing private property to build the pipeline. Source. I know Breitbart is a bad source but it works for cursory information. I'm highly disappointed that such an amendment won't be making it into a bill that has the numbers to pass, and prevent a filibuster. 

 

Anyway, your thoughts? 

 

edit: Here is the link: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/01/23/sen-rand-paul-democrat-amendment-on-property-rights-key-step-in-reversing-kelo/

 

My Breitbart comment should make more sense now.

Edited January 26, 201511 yr by SIR_Sergeant

Not to sound like a "tree-hugger", but building this pipeline would destroy some Native American lands and negatively impact the environment. Also, from what I researched, it is over 1,000 miles, which, if you think about it, would cost millions, if not billions, of taxpayer money. The United States is already at over a trillion dollars in debt, we do not need to pile that debt even more.

A random fact here: pipelines actually let out methane gas, which is 23 times more powerful than the greenhouse gas, the CO2. Which means it makes the global temperature raise even faster. And those pipelines have a -lot- of leaks. In 2012, on the American territory, those leaks let out more than 13 millions tons of methane in the atmosphere. In 2013, around 3000 leaks were spotted on the pipes going through the only city of Boston. But sadly pipelines cost less to oil companies than transporting the oil by train, for example (around $5 by barrel through a pipeline, for $10 to $15 by barrel by train). With the power of the different lobbies, and the influence oil companies have on the entire world and governments, I doubt they'll change anything if they want to do that.

I am a supporter of the Keystone Pipeline.

In no way do I support this, haven't we destroyed our environment enough already, we already have climate change to deal with.

I am a supporter of the Keystone Pipeline.

What about the project do you like or why do you support it? 

I usually don't care about the environment, but this, plus fracking in the Northeast, are just gonna major problems. So I don't support this. And the company is Canadian...

What about the project do you like or why do you support it? 

It would bring 42,000 jobs (temporary) and about $3.4 Billion to the American economy.

I usually don't care about the environment, but this, plus fracking in the Northeast, are just gonna major problems. So I don't support this. And the company is Canadian...

Fracking has definitely caused some serious issues nationwide. People shouldn't be able to light the water coming out of their faucets on fire.

 

Fracking has definitely caused some serious issues nationwide. People shouldn't be able to light the water coming out of their faucets on fire.

 

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It would bring 42,000 jobs (temporary) and about $3.4 Billion to the American economy.

And only 50 permanent, most reports seem to say. As to jobs created by extension, I don't know. Regardless of however much Gulf Coast refineries would benefit, I can't see a significant number of lasting jobs.

 

Do you have a source on the $3.4 billion figure?

And only 50 permanent, most reports seem to say. As to jobs created by extension, I don't know. Regardless of however much Gulf Coast refineries would benefit, I can't see a significant number of lasting jobs.

 

Do you have a source on the $3.4 billion figure?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/19/us/politics/what-does-the-proposed-keystone-xl-pipeline-entail.html?_r=0

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/19/us/politics/what-does-the-proposed-keystone-xl-pipeline-entail.html?_r=0

I wish the author had given a more detailed response. Oh well. I don't really have a response as I don't know where they derived the number from.