Hi,

 

having spent all day again trying to mod my lcpdfr, and a couple of days just getting it to run, a big thankyou for the help you have given me and by searching these support topics.

 

I have just about everything I need I've got C++ 2005, 2012, 2012 for display, Direct x, SDK and .net4.5.2... Windows wants to update it but that just cocked everything up 4 days ago.

 

I have a disc, not steam. What I have noticed when installing various options to get it to run:

 

1: if I install with dsound, it crashes a lot. Also Games for windows runs.

2: if I try to install D>D> met police pack and ELS V8 It will not run

 

If I re-install with xliveless.asi :

1: It doesn't crash, I can get D>D> met police pack to work and ELS V8 is installed but lost the sirens, seen various threads and still working on it.

2: Games for windows live does not run, the game still saves and loads a lot quicker. But you cannot play online... not that I want to

 

The stage I'm at having install twice now, and switching from one backup to another, didn't help much when switching for the dsound.dll etc, I'm really reluctant to try and do it all again just for British cars etc. But they did handle better, is there anyway of improving the American cars handling? is there a mod?

 

any suggestions as to how to get the sirens going in ELS V8? I will try to re-install ELS if I get a good suggestion but I'm wasting so much playing time

Hi,

having spent all day again trying to mod my lcpdfr, and a couple of days just getting it to run, a big thankyou for the help you have given me and by searching these support topics.

I have just about everything I need I've got C++ 2005, 2012, 2012 for display, Direct x, SDK and .net4.5.2... Windows wants to update it but that just cocked everything up 4 days ago.

I have a disc, not steam. What I have noticed when installing various options to get it to run:

1: if I install with dsound, it crashes a lot. Also Games for windows runs.

2: if I try to install D>D> met police pack and ELS V8 It will not run

If I re-install with xliveless.asi :

1: It doesn't crash, I can get D>D> met police pack to work and ELS V8 is installed but lost the sirens, seen various threads and still working on it.

2: Games for windows live does not run, the game still saves and loads a lot quicker. But you cannot play online... not that I want to

The stage I'm at having install twice now, and switching from one backup to another, didn't help much when switching for the dsound.dll etc, I'm really reluctant to try and do it all again just for British cars etc. But they did handle better, is there anyway of improving the American cars handling? is there a mod?

any suggestions as to how to get the sirens going in ELS V8? I will try to re-install ELS if I get a good suggestion but I'm wasting so much playing time

were there any other files in the car folder you downloaded? If there were any els files included u would need to put those in the els file for it to work some cars have them.

The pack from double Doppler came with install read me and had its own els folder. Basically it's was a question of copying the common and els files. A new els.in into the root folder. Then using sparkIV transfer the.wtd .wtf? Into the game root folder.i have done this process about 3 times. Should I install elsV8 before any cars. I know I need it to run els c compatible cars, but does it matter which way round it's installed. I'm wondering if it's the els folder contents that may be a problem.

Edited January 24, 201511 yr by carpless

Ok, its crashed and will not load.

1. I'm installing with xliveless.dll

2. the ELSV8 has dsound.dll in the package. O know I can't have both so I haven't installed it. When GTA4 starts it states, lcpdfr has encountered a problem please see lcpdfr.log   Can't find it.

 

The only thing I though was the advanced hook.dll from ELSV8 or the Script hook.dll from ELS may be the problem, so I've put the originals back in... it started went into what looked like a trainer senerio and crashed, so I have reverted but now will not load at all.

 

Any suggestions, should I be loading with dsound.dll? Any preference?  

 

Found it. while I'm waiting I'm going to restore to original state with just the basic lcpdfr loaded with xlive.dll

Edited January 24, 201511 yr by carpless

so how did this turn out? once you get this working what i would do is MAKE SURE that ANY mod you install DO NOT use their version of advanced hook. the LCDPFR version is the most current one. most mods are older and use a very outdated version. so keep that in mind when you start downloading things. what i would do if your game wont load is to uninstall lcpdfr. leave ELS alone and once you re install lcpdfr it will replace all old files that the ELS may have had. i am using dsound myself. i hope you get this working.

so how did this turn out? once you get this working what i would do is MAKE SURE that ANY mod you install DO NOT use their version of advanced hook. the LCDPFR version is the most current one. most mods are older and use a very outdated version. so keep that in mind when you start downloading things. what i would do if your game wont load is to uninstall lcpdfr. leave ELS alone and once you re install lcpdfr it will replace all old files that the ELS may have had. i am using dsound myself. i hope you get this working.

 

I think one of the mod packs had a script.dll in it two... should I keep the most recent one? I.e.: the Lcpdfr one. Also I know it had another copy of dsound.dll, so should I keep the most recent one of those as well?

 

trouble is that in most of the folders are modified folders that are already in the latest Lcpdfr, Like slot control, in the els foder of the car pack, there must be the same file in the ELS folder... again which one to keep?

 

 

Just re-installed with xlivless.... not crashed for over 1 hour... also had to change config.ini so that x on my controller would allow me to join a pursuit. E didn't seem to want to work.... Great now to try the mods 1 at a time.

Edited January 25, 201511 yr by carpless

I think one of the mod packs had a script.dll in it two... should I keep the most recent one? I.e.: the Lcpdfr one. Also I know it had another copy of dsound.dll, so should I keep the most recent one of those as well?

trouble is that in most of the folders are modified folders that are already in the latest Lcpdfr, Like slot control, in the els foder of the car pack, there must be the same file in the ELS folder... again which one to keep?

Just re-installed with xlivless.... not crashed for over 1 hour... also had to change config.ini so that x on my controller would allow me to join a pursuit. E didn't seem to want to work.... Great now to try the mods 1 at a time.

whoohoo :D glad it's working finally. But yes from now one look at the date of those important hooks and always take the one with the latest date.

*&^&^&(&%^%)^ it was all going so well!

Installed ELS V8 without the advancehook and script.dll as they were older than what is with the game. The standard cars loaded but no bar lights, but it all ran well. So I thought well the standard cars may not be ELS compatible, so I continued to install Double Dopplers Met police pack V4. (with sparkIV)

As I'm running with xliveles, I didn't copy the dsound.dll. All loaded well but lost sirens and light from the xbox left thumb, no problem, pressed 1,2,3,4, no sirens. pressed G just got that air horn. Pressed J and on came the bar lights, accelerated and before I could try the sirens again it all crashed.

As there is a dsound.dll with this pack I'm wondering if its all made to run with Dsound and not xliveless? No answer from Double Doppler on that one so as I type just copying my backup dsound.dll version and starting again.

*&^&^&(&%^%)^ it was all going so well!

Installed ELS V8 without the advancehook and script.dll as they were older than what is with the game. The standard cars loaded but no bar lights, but it all ran well. So I thought well the standard cars may not be ELS compatible, so I continued to install Double Dopplers Met police pack V4. (with sparkIV)

As I'm running with xliveles, I didn't copy the dsound.dll. All loaded well but lost sirens and light from the xbox left thumb, no problem, pressed 1,2,3,4, no sirens. pressed G just got that air horn. Pressed J and on came the bar lights, accelerated and before I could try the sirens again it all crashed.

As there is a dsound.dll with this pack I'm wondering if its all made to run with Dsound and not xliveless? No answer from Double Doppler on that one so as I type just copying my backup dsound.dll version and starting again.

well two hours later.... I have installed it all again with dsound, installed ELSV8 and the Met vehicle pack, this time I've run the GTAiV direct x update instal in the original folder, not sure if it did anything, then I also (although the latest game patch attempts to remove Rockstar Game social Club) I did sign into it, and also automatically signed in to GFWL. this time it all ran, lights work and sirens, also did one stop no crashes yet, don't mind the od one halfway thru game, I know this can happen.... Looks like I'm stuck with GFWL and dsound.

again thanks for all the suggestions, I was just wondering if there is anywhere to post a step by step guide to install all of this, with advice about keeping advancehook etc, so others may save some time. I appreciate that every Pc is quite different but it might help. I'm happy to pen something but do not want to break any rules?

Just saving it all before installing Met Police officers Pack (uk)

Edited January 26, 201511 yr by ineseri

*&^&^&(&%^%)^ it was all going so well!

Installed ELS V8 without the advancehook and script.dll as they were older than what is with the game. The standard cars loaded but no bar lights, but it all ran well. So I thought well the standard cars may not be ELS compatible, so I continued to install Double Dopplers Met police pack V4. (with sparkIV)

As I'm running with xliveles, I didn't copy the dsound.dll. All loaded well but lost sirens and light from the xbox left thumb, no problem, pressed 1,2,3,4, no sirens. pressed G just got that air horn. Pressed J and on came the bar lights, accelerated and before I could try the sirens again it all crashed.

As there is a dsound.dll with this pack I'm wondering if its all made to run with Dsound and not xliveless? No answer from Double Doppler on that one so as I type just copying my backup dsound.dll version and starting again.

well two hours later.... I have installed it all again with dsound, installed ELSV8 and the Met vehicle pack, this time I've run the GTAiV direct x update instal in the original folder, not sure if it did anything, then I also (although the latest game patch attempts to remove Rockstar Game social Club) I did sign into it, and also automatically signed in to GFWL. this time it all ran, lights work and sirens, also did one stop no crashes yet, don't mind the od one halfway thru game, I know this can happen.... Looks like I'm stuck with GFWL and dsound.

again thanks for all the suggestions, I was just wondering if there is anywhere to post a step by step guide to install all of this, with advice about keeping advancehook etc, so others may save some time. I appreciate that every Pc is quite different but it might help. I'm happy to pen something but do not want to break any rules?

Just saving it all before installing Met Police officers Pack (uk)

I honestly am working on a step by step guide and then I'll have one of the mods check it out so us newbs can use it :D

I've found that this problem can be solved by disabling ELS AI.  If that works, try the following:

• Change ASI loader
• Disable ClearRandAiExtras
• Reduce ClearRandAiExtras distance
• Disable Cruise Lights
• Disable ELS on NON-ELS vehicles