K9s Ain't Pets! (no K9 ambient spawn fix) 1.0.0

Great idea !

Question:  If we change the shepherd to another dog,   for example   A_C_Pug    would it not already be listed there in that pathway?   Essentially, you would have two ambient spawns with the same breed.  Does this cause conflict, potential crashing issues?   

Would it be easier to just set the  <Probability value="1.000000" />   to    <Probability value="0.000000" />  ?

Legit question,  as I have no idea and never tested it.
 

2 hours ago, BlueLine Vibes said:

Question:  If we change the shepherd to another dog,   for example   A_C_Pug    would it not already be listed there in that pathway?   Essentially, you would have two ambient spawns with the same breed.  Does this cause conflict, potential crashing issues?   

Would it be easier to just set the  <Probability value="1.000000" />   to    <Probability value="0.000000" />  ?

Legit question,  as I have no idea and never tested it.
 

I've had it changed to rottweiler for months now, shepherd dog is often seen in Sandy Shores with no crashes there whatsoever, you can check the dog replaced with no issues.

I've been tweaking this .meta file for a while along with the .ymt to generate custom npcs (custom scenarios, like hwaycops for my custom stations) and when made correctly it causes no issues.

Great YT channel!

Edited March 26, 20251 yr by OutCast

Good grief. I just did this manually yesterday. This is an excellent idea.

need a pittbull

Amazing work

25 minutes ago, STEVETHEGAMER said:

Amazing work

Thanks! Great YT channel as well

Edited March 26, 20251 yr by OutCast

6 hours ago, OutCast said:

 

I've had it changed to rottweiler for months now, shepherd dog is often seen in Sandy Shores with no crashes there whatsoever, you can check the dog replaced with no issues.

 

I've been tweaking this .meta file for a while along with the .ymt to generate custom npcs (custom scenarios, like hwaycops for my custom stations) and when made correctly it causes no issues.

 

Great YT channel!

Alright cool,  ya just wasn't sure if you had two mentions of pug for example if it would cause issues.   Also wasn't sure if just modifying the probability would do anything if I set it to 0

Cool idea actually,  something so simple can make a big difference. 

Edited March 26, 20251 yr by BlueLine Vibes

Thank you Outcast 

12 hours ago, BlueLine Vibes said:

Alright cool,  ya just wasn't sure if you had two mentions of pug for example if it would cause issues.   Also wasn't sure if just modifying the probability would do anything if I set it to 0

Cool idea actually,  something so simple can make a big difference. 

In the end they are just calls, the game calls the label (thru the region .ymt) and inside the label is the model, problem is when the game tries to command the model to do stuff it hasn't been animated or have scripts around it, then it might crash, but in this case every dog is just a remodel from each other and some labels share multiple models being picked randomly, like:

Lowering to 0 also works, and it's less invasive in case you have doubts. That's also been tested tho with a skater ambient spawn issue of another mod of mine.

Edited March 27, 20251 yr by OutCast

I changed the model that the K9 vest uses (German Shephard) to Golden Retriever and it made the Retriever spawn with the vest. I then removed the option for the German Shephard to spawn and it's now working fine. I wasn't sure if setting it to another animal in the meta file would make the game crash or not, but it seems that you have no choice.

3 hours ago, Joe C Wilson said:

I changed the model that the K9 vest uses (German Shephard) to Golden Retriever and it made the Retriever spawn with the vest. I then removed the option for the German Shephard to spawn and it's now working fine. I wasn't sure if setting it to another animal in the meta file would make the game crash or not, but it seems that you have no choice.

That's strange, I've tried the same and works fine to me (I posted a pic at the mod introduction with the retriever without any vest), are you using the same k9 mod (German Shepherd / Malinois - K9 Dog  by martinct) or another k9 model mod? 

Also looking at the mod files, the vest is a component that belongs to (is part of) the shepherd model only instead of being independent (like a hat, in another .rpf), which makes me think that there must be another k9 model mod ppl are using or a secondary mod that is customizing it.

If reducing the prob to 0 is fine to you, I'm happy that is working. 

11 minutes ago, OutCast said:

 

That's strange, I've tried the same and works fine to me (I posted a pic at the mod introduction with the retriever without any vest), are you using the same k9 mod (German Shepherd / Malinois - K9 Dog  by martinct) or another k9 model mod? 

 

Also looking at the mod files, the vest is a component that belongs to (is part of) the shepherd model only instead of being independent (like a hat, in another .rpf), which makes me think that there must be another k9 model mod ppl are using or a secondary mod that is customizing it.

 

If reducing the prob to 0 is fine to you, I'm happy that is working. 

I didn't edit the meta file properly, so it was my fault. I had to remove the Shepard completely as the vest was attached to the K9 model made by martinct.

1 minute ago, Joe C Wilson said:

I didn't edit the meta file properly, so it was my fault. I had to remove the Shepard completely as the vest was attached to the K9 model made by martinct.

That's nice to hear that is working now, what was exactly the issue? because you are not the only one having this. What do you mean with removing the shepherd completely? in the meta file 

17 minutes ago, OutCast said:

That's nice to hear that is working now, what was exactly the issue? because you are not the only one having this. What do you mean with removing the shepherd completely? in the meta file 

Under Shephard, I only edited the name above where it says variations to Retriever, and it made the Retriever wear a vest. I then edited the ambient model set name to Retriever and it went away.

7 hours ago, Joe C Wilson said:

Under Shephard, I only edited the name above where it says variations to Retriever, and it made the Retriever wear a vest. I then edited the ambient model set name to Retriever and it went away.

If you changed      

    <Item type="CAmbientModelSet">
      <Name>ANIMAL_DOG_SHEPHERD</Name>     to       <Name>ANIMAL_DOG_RETRIEVER</Name>
      <Models>
        <Item>

         <Name>A_C_shepherd</Name> 

         <Variations type="NULL" />
         <Probability value="1.000000" /> 

        </Item>

Think like it as a box, the box is labeled shepherd and inside is a certain retriever dog model. If the game tries to find the shepherd box and it doesn't exist it will crash.

Also, there is already a <Name>ANIMAL_DOG_RETRIEVER</Name> and there should be 2 now. To find the correct one you want to fix it's just above this line:

<Item type="CAmbientModelSet">
            <Name>ANIMAL_DOG_SMALL</Name>
            <Models>
                <Item>
                    <Name>A_C_Poodle</Name>
                    <Variations type="NULL"/>
                    <Probability value="1.000000"/>
                </Item>
                <Item>
                    <Name>A_C_Pug</Name>
                    <Variations type="NULL"/>
                    <Probability value="1.000000"/>
                </Item>
                <Item>
                    <Name>a_c_westy</Name>
                    <Variations type="NULL"/>
                    <Probability value="1.000000"/>
                </Item>
            </Models>
        </Item>

Edited March 28, 20251 yr by OutCast

1 hour ago, OutCast said:

 

If you changed      

 

    <Item type="CAmbientModelSet">
      <Name>ANIMAL_DOG_SHEPHERD</Name>     to       <Name>ANIMAL_DOG_RETRIEVER</Name>
      <Models>
        <Item>

         <Name>A_C_shepherd</Name> 

         <Variations type="NULL" />
         <Probability value="1.000000" /> 

        </Item>

 

Think like it as a box, the box is labeled shepherd and inside is a certain retriever dog model. If the game tries to find the shepherd box and it doesn't exist it will crash.

 

Also, there is already a <Name>ANIMAL_DOG_RETRIEVER</Name> and there should be 2 now. To find the correct one you want to fix it's just above this line:

 

<Item type="CAmbientModelSet">
            <Name>ANIMAL_DOG_SMALL</Name>
            <Models>
                <Item>
                    <Name>A_C_Poodle</Name>
                    <Variations type="NULL"/>
                    <Probability value="1.000000"/>
                </Item>
                <Item>
                    <Name>A_C_Pug</Name>
                    <Variations type="NULL"/>
                    <Probability value="1.000000"/>
                </Item>
                <Item>
                    <Name>a_c_westy</Name>
                    <Variations type="NULL"/>
                    <Probability value="1.000000"/>
                </Item>
            </Models>
        </Item>

Thank you. I will try to test this and get back to you soon.