RP-X = Roleplay Expanded (StopThePed and CompuLite Modification) 1.3

this is the best description ive ever read, cant wait to try this out!

3 minutes ago, Samuel Olson said:

this is the best description ive ever read, cant wait to try this out!

Thanks! I hope you have fun with it. 

24 minutes ago, Valkatox said:

Thanks! I hope you have fun with it. 

at first glance this is really in depth, i wasnt even aware you could colorize the charges/menus in compulite! i'll leave a review once I've gotten used to and played with it some. 

7 hours ago, Samuel Olson said:

at first glance this is really in depth, i wasnt even aware you could colorize the charges/menus in compulite! i'll leave a review once I've gotten used to and played with it some. 

I was trying quite a few things to get the color to work, I didn't think it was possible at first. But it was really helpful in being able to do what I wanted when I eventually figured it out!
And thanks I'd appreciate it! I'm already working on the first update. 

Thank you for this great joob l like it am using it now and it's coool 

I absolutely love it! But maybe add consent on breathalyzer and drug swab test/sobriety test? Agree/disagree when asking them to sign. Some of the questions that are useful but not yet implement under vehicle operation violation are improper passing, unsafe lane change, improper turn, no front/back license plate. Can you add those in the next update? You doing a amazing job!

5 hours ago, Skenda said:

Thank you for this great joob l like it am using it now and it's coool 

Thanks bud! I'm glad you're liking it! 

2 hours ago, cooltheme said:

I absolutely love it! But maybe add consent on breathalyzer and drug swab test/sobriety test? Agree/disagree when asking them to sign. Some of the questions that are useful but not yet implement under vehicle operation violation are improper passing, unsafe lane change, improper turn, no front/back license plate. Can you add those in the next update? You doing a amazing job!

Those are some great ideas. I've just done an update now so I'll make sure to get those you've mentioned in for the next one. The one's I haven't just done in the 1.1 update that is.

Thanks again! 

1 hour ago, Valkatox said:

 

Those are some great ideas. I've just done an update now so I'll make sure to get those you've mentioned in for the next one. The one's I haven't just done in the 1.1 update that is.

Thanks again! 

What a coincidence! I just mentioned about the signing ticket and you put out an update!

5 minutes ago, Skenda said:

"Screenshot"

 

Cool stuff bud! Good arrest. 
I'm going to do another look at the sentences and fines at some point. I spent quite a bit of time researching the various charges but some sentences might be a bit too lenient or strict.

5 minutes ago, Valkatox said:

Cool stuff bud! Good arrest. 
I'm going to do another look at the sentences and fines at some point. I spent quite a bit of time researching the various charges but some sentences might be a bit too lenient or strict.

I like your style

l made onlly screan to show others how it look's

21 hours ago, Valkatox said:

Cool stuff bud! Good arrest. 
I'm going to do another look at the sentences and fines at some point. I spent quite a bit of time researching the various charges but some sentences might be a bit too lenient or strict.

dude can you add Arrest Warrant for suspect in options for Compulite?

29 minutes ago, Skenda said:

dude can you add Arrest Warrant for suspect in options for Compulite?

Hey bud.

I added a note about warrants in the description above as someone messaged me asking the same thing.
The warrant charge that's in the vanilla CompuLite doesn't make much sense. Basically if someone's got a warrant for Shoplifting then just add that to their charges when you arrest them. It doesn't mean they've shoplifted twice. Just the court system will show that charge when they've been to court.

As if you choose the vanilla "Warrant for Arrest" charge the person would say... get one to five years. Which is firstly a bit random and secondly if you arrest someone with a warrant for petty theft they could get five years, and someone with a warrant for aggravated kidnapping would get one year.

Hope that explained it a bit! 

For some reason my install isn't working. Does having the CompuLite Extra Realistic Charges installed have an effect on this?? No color menu or interactions for me.

8 minutes ago, GlimtechArms said:

For some reason my install isn't working. Does having the CompuLite Extra Realistic Charges installed have an effect on this?? No color menu or interactions for me.

 

Hey bud.

Yeah having another mod that changes the CompuLite charges won't work with this one as they use the same files.
I've just put in the original post up top where to install the files.

The mod is designed to work with each STP / CompuLite file as opposed to just focusing on one thing like a charge list.
Example being the drug items are designed to work with the narcotics charges. So they'll use the files of charges, citations, questions and items, etc. Which will conflict with other mods using those.

2 hours ago, Valkatox said:

Hey bud.

I added a note about warrants in the description above as someone messaged me asking the same thing.
The warrant charge that's in the vanilla CompuLite doesn't make much sense. Basically if someone's got a warrant for Shoplifting then just add that to their charges when you arrest them. It doesn't mean they've shoplifted twice. Just the court system will show that charge when they've been to court.

As if you choose the vanilla "Warrant for Arrest" charge the person would say... get one to five years. Which is firstly a bit random and secondly if you arrest someone with a warrant for petty theft they could get five years, and someone with a warrant for aggravated kidnapping would get one year.

Hope that explained it a bit! 

arrest warrant charges was also a REALLY big concern of mine and speak of the devil, i came to this comments section to ask about it too  hearing this, that actually makes a LOT of sense and i cant believe i didnt think of that myself when i was using other charge packs. you really have gone deep with this and it shows. keep up the good work!

16 minutes ago, Samuel Olson said:

arrest warrant charges was also a REALLY big concern of mine and speak of the devil, i came to this comments section to ask about it too  hearing this, that actually makes a LOT of sense and i cant believe i didnt think of that myself when i was using other charge packs. you really have gone deep with this and it shows. keep up the good work!

I used to use the warrant charge myself quite often until it became apparent that it wasn't really making much sense.

I'm planning to make a few versions so that people can customize things. Such as a gender based pack. Where if you play as a guy then you'll be called sir along with officer. And ma'am for the other. Plus one where you'll be referred to as deputy instead of officer, and so on.

So I might make a version with a 'warrant' charge that doesn't give a sentence if people really want one.
But I think it's much more realistic and immersive if you can actually see what the suspect received for their warrant rather than... "oh he got ten months for that eluding charge when he ran from you. But we can't tell you what he got for that felony warrant he was wanted for".


Anyway I'm glad you're enjoying it bud! I'll have a new update out in the next few days. I've been researching some things and I'm currently working on "Field Sobriety Consent" at the moment... here's a sneak peak! (Work in progress so it might change quite a bit) 

Hey Valkatox

love your mod!!! I almost lost the motivation to even talk because other mods just didn't seem to do it right. Yours feels like a real conversation.

Appreciate your manuals too how to do the roleplay thing.

Just adding some minor things to your list which I noticed today. I'm aware your mod is new and not everything is implemented.

And since you asked for new things here you go:

I stopped a ped with a stolen vehicle today.

I could find the charge in CompuLite for the stolen vehicle but I couldn't talk to him about if he is aware that he drives a stolen vehicle.

Since the vehicle was reported stolen in this case the question "does the owner know you're driving" wasn't required but I also couldn't find it.

Last one for today : I stopped a walking ped which was tested positive for some drugs but the only drug charges I found is for possession and driving.

But he only had an empty baggie that was tested positive. At time of padding him, he was not in possession of any drugs. Theoretically he could have been drugged by someone else.

Not sure how the charges work in real, whether when one will be automatically charged for possession or under influence in public.

8 minutes ago, thofue said:

Hey Valkatox

love your mod!!! I almost lost the motivation to even talk because other mods just didn't seem to do it right. Yours feels like a real conversation.

Appreciate your manuals too how to do the roleplay thing.

 

Just adding some minor things to your list which I noticed today. I'm aware your mod is new and not everything is implemented.

And since you asked for new things here you go:

 

I stopped a ped with a stolen vehicle today.

I could find the charge in CompuLite for the stolen vehicle but I couldn't talk to him about if he is aware that he drives a stolen vehicle.

Since the vehicle was reported stolen in this case the question "does the owner know you're driving" wasn't required but I also couldn't find it.

 

Last one for today : I stopped a walking ped which was tested positive for some drugs but the only drug charges I found is for possession and driving.

But he only had an empty baggie that was tested positive. At time of padding him, he was not in possession of any drugs. Theoretically he could have been drugged by someone else.

Not sure how the charges work in real, whether when one will be automatically charged for possession or under influence in public.

Hey thanks for the comment!
I'm glad you like it so far and I'm also glad to see you've read the manuals too. I'm going to improve them in the week I think. I actually forgot to put them in the folder with the most recent release! Whoops...

That's actually a very good point with the stolen vehicle. That's something I've overlooked. I'll be sure to add some questions along those lines for the next release!

As for the testing positive for drugs with the baggie - 
The traces of the drug in the baggie. I believe that even a trace amount of a drug can still amount to a possession charge. 
I'll look into it some more but here is a quote from a website that mentions trace amounts of drugs = "Two out of three drug offenders arrested by state and local law enforcement possess or sell a gram or less at the time of arrest. Furthermore, about 40% of arrests for hard drug are for trace amounts – a quarter of a gram or less" and "Finally, this study shows that 71% of drug arrests are not for hard drugs, but for marijuana. The majority of those arrests are also for tiny quantities: 28% for trace amounts and almost 50% for a gram or less."
 
But if the person was walking around and high on drugs I'd suggest a "Public Intoxication" citation and if they're not in a fit state perhaps see about getting them a taxi home. If they refuse then I believe legally they can just walk away.
I was actually watching a Youtube video just before of a traffic stop. And they were both high on something. One person was arrested for possession of what was found in the vehicle and the other person was told to walk home... even though he was obviously high himself.

I might include some 'scenarios' in the manual files. Sort of suggestions as to what the player might want to do in certain situations.
I don't like telling people how to play or anything. Just it might be interesting to read and might help someone decide on how to play out a situation.

Thanks again for the comment and I'm glad you're liking the mod so far! 

I just did a quick update to 1.2 just now.

I moved the "Read the person their Miranda Rights" option to the top of "Speaking with an Arrested / Detained Suspect".

Sorry about that for anyone who has already downloaded 1.2.

it's a minor change but it's now in a more appropriate section. And at the top as you'll likely be using that option often, so it will save you having to scroll down the list.

Oh this sounds good, downloading now will check it out!

caspita se è come leggo e come penso, hai finalmente sconvolto il gioco, questa volta una sosta di un veicolo o di un ped durerà come nella realtà, penso che ci vorrà ancora più tempo per integrarlo, ma fantastico, se Capisco correttamente .

Lascerò una recensione non appena la collaudo un po 'nel gioco, l'impatto è dal 5 al 5, ci stiamo avvicinando alla chiamata al simulatore e non solo al gioco, ottimo lavoro @ Valkatox

if there was a way that the ped that has just committed for example a grand theft auto or an aggression , for questions and answers would be more engaging , first I stopped a ped , which after having accident another with the vehicle and got out of the car and attacked him , as stop the ped I have not found much to ask questions , maybe if you can expand this part , also because there are many callouts related to the fight in progres , and if you could then add the answers to "what are they accused?  ",  and the answer if yes or no if it must appear before the judge , they asked when I told him I would only issue a quote , keep it up good work @Valkatox

Okay checked it out, and it's great!

My only complaint, is I can't find anywhere to ask the suspect if they have something that will poke, stick or harm me if I search them? Is it in there somewhere and I'm just not seeing it?

But overall, amazing job this is perfect and a lot better (more organized and fluid) than an alternative i tried.

1 hour ago, mctosh said:

Okay checked it out, and it's great!

 

My only complaint, is I can't find anywhere to ask the suspect if they have something that will poke, stick or harm me if I search them? Is it in there somewhere and I'm just not seeing it?

 

But overall, amazing job this is perfect and a lot better (more organized and fluid) than an alternative i tried.

Thanks I'm glad you like it!

Well there is a question of "Do you have a weapon on you at all" which is under the "Speaking about weapons" category.
I think I might make one asking if they have a firearm and then one that asks the poke / stick / harm question. Maybe change the order around too as it's at the bottom of the question list. And that would more likely be used than say.... speaking to a gang member / prostitute.

But I'm glad you like it so far. I'm still working on it and working on making it more fluid (especially in terms of putting things in order of what might be used more as just mentioned).
That and doing more things like investigating which will have different outcomes. EG - Does / does not have a prescription or is / is not law enforcement, etc. 

I'll get another update out sometime this week! 

2 hours ago, Siracusa said:

if there was a way that the ped that has just committed for example a grand theft auto or an aggression , for questions and answers would be more engaging , first I stopped a ped , which after having accident another with the vehicle and got out of the car and attacked him , as stop the ped I have not found much to ask questions , maybe if you can expand this part , also because there are many callouts related to the fight in progres , and if you could then add the answers to "what are they accused?  ",  and the answer if yes or no if it must appear before the judge , they asked when I told him I would only issue a quote , keep it up good work @Valkatox

Hi and thanks for your comments!

That's definitely something I'll add for sure. Maybe a "Suspect Questioning" section which will have different sections depending on the crime you're asking about.
Such as "Why were you fighting", "Who was the aggressor" and such. And someone might say they were defending themselves while the other person admits they are guilty. So the guilty person goes to jail while you can let the other person go.

But very good ideas! I'll be sure to add it, thanks again!