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But if non developers see this I want them to know what makes a developer special isn’t the fact he can manually write code it is his ideas that make him or her special. Like LSPDFR was a very novel idea and that’s why it’s so popular not because cyan could write code. Non devs don’t even know what it took to write it lol but they see the awesome idea he had and turned into the greatest mod on the net. The coding aspect is just a divider amongst each other. Whether someone read it from a book and wrote every line or in today’s world someone leveraged the LLM to cut down on keystrokes. If you do this someone else will just find a way to get their mod out there. Another site will populate that you can’t contest with because only rockstar owns the rights to the game itself. So I get the we could stop all AI but it’s not feasible without forcing another actor onto the stage and I nor you want someone competing with LSPDFR.

Like I originally said, I didn’t want to debate or argue. Just clarification. Which you provided. I appreciate it. Moving forward I’ll keep in mind how it will be perceived and ask if I’m ok with the perception of any work I do. Thank you.

Writing it is as simple as knowing what directives you need then knowing what classes and objects you intend to use then using the documentation for shvdn or rph that was translated after that it’s the logic to get it to fire using ontick and start etc. so if someone knows how to write the code and just has AI do the mundane parts it sounds as if you didn’t write every single line yourself you didn’t make the mod. I get people just using AI entirely. What I’m saying is it clumps those who leverage it with those who rely on it entirely. I could literally prompt the entire LLM to write the script lol and get it to work flawlessly because I know to avoid certain things like gta v’s native hex codes because I understand how the engines work. GTA V used hex code, ragepluginhook deciphered them then a documentation manual with the wrapped naming conventions associated with the output of the hex gave modders the ability to inject their own variant. Or I could have it build my skeleton and I handle the logic because it’ll be easier since it has nuances. And yes everyone starts from somewhere for those of you who started before AI it was textbooks and meetups the former being a “sort” of AI since it’s coming from a an external source “a book” from someone who happened to know it. They’re both external sources lol. And I’ve met tons of developers who were carrying those gigantic three ring binders as referencing tools. So we make fun of the person that leverages AI, which has a vast and very quick library recall over the guy that wants to manually comb through possibly 1000 pages of text to find the same thing that the LLM would find in a second and I find that hilarious. But, my point is I either write the entirety of the file or be clumped with prompters who can’t figure out why it’s crashing their game or what even makes it work. Same could be said for someone who reads it out of a book. Someone already wrote it. You didn’t just know how to write the code at birth. And you yourself likely referenced a ton of pre-written material that was later transferred to the web. If you used any textbook you are the same as someone using AI because it also got its references from a textbook uploaded to the internet.

I don’t applaud myself on remembering every single syntax or method as these can be easily found in hard cover books and the internet (heck the compiler tells you now) and autocomplete is AI lol copilot etc is embedded in these softwares. I prize remembering structure which is why I can use cs cpp py Lua Swift etc. I’m not upset I get it - people who don’t understand code let alone the structure are able to do something once seen as “genius” level only and it kills the narrative that developers had. But it was never their ability to write code it was their ideas that made them genius. Again thank you, and if you could expand on and maybe educate non dev’s about the difference between letting an LLM write the whole code compared to leveraging that would be great. After all transparency is a two way street. And right now it’s a one-way mirror observing and interrogating those who use it professionally.

Do you see this as bad - leveraging an LLM that has library recall at a level that’s faster than combing through documentation to use a wrapper instead of raw hex code from gta v’s engine? I mean that’s what your ragepluginhook does and then you just assign it a name and then provide the documentation. You read 0x7 etc then rename it once you see it deals with say health of player or shooting a gun etc. If I could write every line of code but it takes me 3 months whereas, an LLM that I can leverage takes me 3 days you’re saying out of ethics just write it or I’m lazy? I’m not saying you are explicitly saying this - I’m inferring. Thanks! I like what you’ve built and I know how it works. Which is why an LLM is perfect because I know that there is documentation for the verbiage to use in files. The documentation is the translator for the hex code you “deciphered” from gta v’s engine by hooking and sniffing (hacking). So when I saw this I thought hmm what’s the message here? Write every line of code for “ethics” or is it to prove who has the ability to actually code? I’m not looking to argue or debate just clarity. Thanks! I guess what I’m saying is it causes a misconception for those who can code who like the rapid building and not writing every single line that gets repetitive. Like directives for c# why do I need to write out using system.windows.forms on every single file that I write that may be I have 10 files in one project? And the misconception is that some non developer (I dislike this word - developer) thinks well he cheated but you kind of have to know the structure to get something to work. Else you get unintended behavior from game or a CTD every single time.