LukeD I have no idea if this is where i should be posting the errors so here it is..........as of now i have removed the loadplugin morecontrolV from start.rphs because when i start it, theres an error saying that it cannot find it within the plugins however morecontrolV.dll and ini are both in the plugins folder. It acts like it doesn't even exist within the plugin folder, BTW the RPH .34 version works but the RPH .45 version doesn't work. the two pictures show whats what.