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4 minutes ago, Macgregor said:

whats with all this train talk getting in the way of the police stuff

Hahaha might do a NSWPF Skin (JKs idk)

 

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14 minutes ago, Macgregor said:

whats with all this train talk getting in the way of the police stuff

 

 

I've been practising my arrest procedures on the Metro. I arrested two people at the same time (one was wanted for a drug warrant) & I ordered multiple single transports. First one arrived OK & the one for the guy with the warrant arrived at the pickup point on its roof. Oops. 

3 hours ago, PgUp said:

Speaking of second screens, has anyone seen a place selling cheap ish monitor brackets, I got no room on my desk so I either gotta have a second screen floating on the side or floating above my main monitor.
I found some brackets but they were like $150+ for some reason.. Thought that was a bit steep for what it is, and that's probably more than I'll pay to get a tiny little second screen just to see utilities, teamspeak and whatever while playing games. 

I got the one on the back of my desk for about $50 from Jaycar.  I also use a wall mount for the TV (hooked in to the computer) which was about $20-30 from Bunnings. Pic of my set up below.

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1 hour ago, Kyben said:

I got the one on the back of my desk for about $50 from Jaycar.  I also use a wall mount for the TV (hooked in to the computer) which was about $20-30 from Bunnings. Pic of my set up below.

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Not too shabby, actually
Well because I was so bored, and insecure with taking a photo of my real messy and cringey set up, I painted you a detailed diagram on paint. :smile:

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My set up... It err.. Probably needs work :sad:
I'd like to wall mount my TV, but I need to ability to swivel it to where I sit when on the PS4. 

PC sits on my desk, mainly because
A) if it sits on my floor, the desk is rool high up with no shelves down low, so cables won't reach
B) I'm too lazy to get down low when I need to insert a disc or unplug/plug something in.
If I could move the PS4 off the desk, I could move the TV over (or wall mount it, if there are mounts that can swivel {Finding it hard to look into the detail of your setup because it's a real tiny pic but I think that's a swivelly mount ya got there}) and PC to the right, or even off the desk too, and have the monitors central.

I'd like a scenario where I have my two PC monitors in the middle like you have, so I can have two monitors next to eachother. Also so my desk wouldn't be so cluttered.

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6 minutes ago, PgUp said:

Not too shabby, actually
Well because I was so bored, and insecure with taking a photo of my real messy and cringey set up, I painted you a detailed diagram on paint. :smile:

lol.png

 

My set up... It err.. Probably needs work :sad:
I'd like to wall mount my TV, but I need to ability to swivel it to where I sit when on the PS4. 

PC sits on my desk, mainly because
A) if it sits on my floor, the desk is rool high up with no shelves down low, so cables won't reach
B) I'm too lazy to get down low when I need to insert a disc or unplug/plug something in.
If I could move the PS4 off the desk, I could move the TV over (or wall mount it, if there are mounts that can swivel) and PC to the right, or even off the desk too, and have the monitors central.

I'd like a scenario where I have my two PC monitors in the middle like you have, so I can have two monitors next to eachother. Also so my desk wouldn't be so cluttered.

The reason the pic is so small is because I cropped out the mess on the floor.  The black box on the right is a Yamaha 7.1 amp and I have a sub under the desk (great foot rest) and a filing cabinet (I actually do a surprising amount of work at home, especially court stuff - no time at work) and the PC sits next to that but easy reach for putting discs in (...which I don't think I've done in years) and whatnot. The desk actually curves around the wall to the left and covers the window with a bookcase and a couple of built in drawers that I keep the printers and stuff in. Speakers wall mounted in front and behind the PC in addition to the one under the monitors.

 

Definitely go with two monitors same size next to each other. Ends up... weird otherwise, with different sizes or not next to each other - I rarely use the TV maybe for a movie while I'm browsing the internet or something. There's also a couch against the opposite wall so I might throw a movie or TV on and just sit there and watch, otherwise... just for really intense word processing stuff (if I'm doing stuff for court, for example, I'll use the TV for legislation, one monitor for a main text sort of thing and other monitor for whatever I'm typing up). Otherwise it's just there for spare screen space. The original plan was to throw the home security system up there (CCTV) but it's not fully set up yet.

 

If you got a mount like the one I have you could put the PS4 or even PC under the monitors. Keeps things clear too!

So if I was to join the nswpf I would have to save up 1,500 for the Charles Stuart university course and than pay for all prep stuff to help with my police exam and in the college 

dose anyone no where a Charles Stuart university is ? (Metropolitan area)

 

And than there is Queensland and if you wondering why I am planning to join both and hope to get into one the reason for that is because I was born in nsw live in qld most of my family live down there so I want to move back.

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38 minutes ago, WestTigersNRL1 said:

So if I was to join the nswpf I would have to save up 1,500 for the Charles Stuart university course and than pay for all prep stuff to help with my police exam and in the college 

dose anyone no where a Charles Stuart university is ? (Metropolitan area)

 

And than there is Queensland and if you wondering why I am planning to join both and hope to get into one the reason for that is because I was born in nsw live in qld most of my family live down there so I want to move back.

I didn't even know you had to go to UNI haha I wanted to move to the US and work with the FBI but i gotta aim High or the US Navy

 

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2 hours ago, WestTigersNRL1 said:

So if I was to join the nswpf I would have to save up 1,500 for the Charles Stuart university course and than pay for all prep stuff to help with my police exam and in the college 

dose anyone no where a Charles Stuart university is ? (Metropolitan area)

 

And than there is Queensland and if you wondering why I am planning to join both and hope to get into one the reason for that is because I was born in nsw live in qld most of my family live down there so I want to move back.

 

I believe all of the NSWPol training and the pre-entry course are able to be paid for through HECS or whatever it's called these days, so there's not up front payment. It starts being added on to your tax after you begin earning a certain amount. 

 

You may want to check out the CSU website for locations. Not all of the campuses run the NSWPol courses. 

2 hours ago, AussieGaming said:

I didn't even know you had to go to UNI haha I wanted to move to the US and work with the FBI but i gotta aim High or the US Navy

 

To join join the FBI you need to be a US citizen which I believe is quite involved. You also need to relinquish your Australian citizenship which is a pretty big thing. Unless you're a dual citizen.  I believe the armed services are the same over there. 

 

 

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I feel like... The CSU campus for Police training is in Goulburn?.. From what I've heard through word of mouth and from watching Recruits recently. 

You gotta have your Aquatic Life Saving Cert, Typing cert (that might actually mash in with the next one, or they mightve removed this req.) and they replaced the ATAR of xx / Cert 4 or higher in any field entry requirement with a pre-uni type course, forget the name, but that's basically what it is. 
You also need to hold your P2 license (perhaps be in your last year of P2)

 

Don't do it if it's not something you're not willing to fail, the course is made to filter out people not fully serious about it. It goes for about eight months (I think), and I believe the first half is very physical. 
Not to deter you, but go in with a "I'll either come out a cop or in a body bag" attitude.

 

Take my word with a grain of salt though, because some things might not be accurate. Their website is a pain in the ass to work, it's not real organised and all info is in different spots, not where it should be, all over the shop, but I feel most/all this info is on their website. 
I looked into it heaps, and realised that my psychological fear of water (nearly drowned as a child) would stop me in my tracks before even getting past the aquatic life saving certificate requirement.. Dream job hopes and dreams shattered.  :sad:

 

 


 

2 hours ago, Kyben said:

To join join the FBI you need to be a US citizen which I believe is quite involved. You also need to relinquish your Australian citizenship which is a pretty big thing. Unless you're a dual citizen.  I believe the armed services are the same over there. 


Yeah, citizenship takes something like five years of living there to acquire [claim you're a refugee you'll get citizenship quicker, lmao]. I feel like the FBI is more of an "invitation" to join, not a "apply here we'll take anyone" organisation. I don't know much about the US and FBI though. 

I don't find it too fascinating, Hollywood hypes the role. You're basically a glorified local detective, but at a Federal level. Exact same job and roles except higher profile cases.

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I'm learning about saving vehicles into slots.

 

What vehicles do you have in what slots? I'm trying to get it right early so the right cars are in the right slot to do the right job in my NSW universe.

1 hour ago, PgUp said:

@WestTigersNRL1 

I feel like... The CSU campus for Police training is in Goulburn?.. From what I've heard through word of mouth and from watching Recruits recently. 

You gotta have your Aquatic Life Saving Cert, Typing cert (that might actually mash in with the next one, or they mightve removed this req.) and they replaced the ATAR of xx / Cert 4 or higher in any field entry requirement with a pre-uni type course, forget the name, but that's basically what it is. 
You also need to hold your P2 license (perhaps be in your last year of P2)

 

Don't do it if it's not something you're not willing to fail, the course is made to filter out people not fully serious about it. It goes for about eight months (I think), and I believe the first half is very physical. 
Not to deter you, but go in with a "I'll either come out a cop or in a body bag" attitude.

 

Take my word with a grain of salt though, because some things might not be accurate. Their website is a pain in the ass to work, it's not real organised and all info is in different spots, not where it should be, all over the shop, but I feel most/all this info is on their website. 
I looked into it heaps, and realised that my psychological fear of water (nearly drowned as a child) would stop me in my tracks before even getting past the aquatic life saving certificate requirement.. Dream job hopes and dreams shattered.  :sad:

I don't find it too fascinating, Hollywood hypes the role. You're basically a glorified local detective, but at a Federal level. Exact same job and roles except higher profile cases.

 

The NSW entry and recruit process is interesting. You complete the University Certificate of Workinh Essentials (replacement for education entry requirements) which is done externally with a trip or two to a CSU campus for exams. Takes about 12 weeks I believe. 

 

After that you actually apply. Assuming you get in you either go to Goulburn for six months or you do about 9 months external study with some residential components and then do a 2-3 month stint at Goulburn which will be all your physical and OST. 

 

My understanding is that they are very supportive and do help you through the courses. It's only if you simply aren't trying and aren't making progress that you don't pass. The course is designed in a way that you start at point A and they take you to point B. If you don't allow them to (through applying yourself) then you obviously won't succeed. 

 

Be mindful that Recruits was a reality show as much as a documentary style thing. It had entertainment factors. 

 

Totally agree on the FBI thing. It's much the same as the AFP. It's much less involved than even the local detectives. You sit at the desk and basically request inquiries conducted by other operational support and intelligence teams. Very little actual legwork. 

 

I imagine teams in the FBI do a greater range of duties where the AFP often farm work out to state counterparts. 

 

That said there are obviously other more 'on road teams' in all organisations. 

 

I reckon being in a small American police department would be awesome. Some town of 10,000 with 5 cops or something. Same here really, would love country service... just still more freedoms over there, not that that's necessarily a good thing. 😉

1 hour ago, Kyben said:

I reckon being in a small American police department would be awesome. Some town of 10,000 with 5 cops or something. Same here really, would love country service... just still more freedoms over there, not that that's necessarily a good thing. 😉

 

Scrap that, 1 man department (me) with an old crown vic... goals haha

18 minutes ago, SkillfulCorpse said:

 

Scrap that, 1 man department (me) with an old crown vic... goals haha

 

Speaking of small police departments, I must remember to see if someone's modelled the General Lee.

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2 hours ago, Kyben said:

My understanding is that they are very supportive and do help you through the courses. It's only if you simply aren't trying and aren't making progress that you don't pass. The course is designed in a way that you start at point A and they take you to point B. If you don't allow them to (through applying yourself) then you obviously won't succeed. 

 

Be mindful that Recruits was a reality show as much as a documentary style thing. It had entertainment factors. 

 

True, but I liked the show to see what actually (somewhat.. bits and snippets) went on in training. There was definitely entertainment placed there (otherwise it would've been bone dry and no one would've watched it). But I did like seeing what went on, ignoring the "drama" placed in there. 

point A to point B thing, that's how all training works, even ADF. Without going into back stories, that's how both pop and some of my mates that have gone their own way and joined the defense force described it. 

I think the NSWPF does the same thing as the ADF, as in if you fail a segment, you don't fail and get kicked out, you back class, or defer if something comes up and you have to leave.

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6 hours ago, Kyben said:

 

I believe all of the NSWPol training and the pre-entry course are able to be paid for through HECS or whatever it's called these days, so there's not up front payment. It starts being added on to your tax after you begin earning a certain amount. 

 

You may want to check out the CSU website for locations. Not all of the campuses run the NSWPol courses. 

 

To join join the FBI you need to be a US citizen which I believe is quite involved. You also need to relinquish your Australian citizenship which is a pretty big thing. Unless you're a dual citizen.  I believe the armed services are the same over there. 

 

 

Yea I researched the FBI you have to have Dual Citzienship as can pick the International Branch so you can work for the FBI in like the Australian Branch etc

4 hours ago, PgUp said:

@WestTigersNRL1 

I feel like... The CSU campus for Police training is in Goulburn?.. From what I've heard through word of mouth and from watching Recruits recently. 

You gotta have your Aquatic Life Saving Cert, Typing cert (that might actually mash in with the next one, or they mightve removed this req.) and they replaced the ATAR of xx / Cert 4 or higher in any field entry requirement with a pre-uni type course, forget the name, but that's basically what it is. 
You also need to hold your P2 license (perhaps be in your last year of P2)

 

Don't do it if it's not something you're not willing to fail, the course is made to filter out people not fully serious about it. It goes for about eight months (I think), and I believe the first half is very physical. 
Not to deter you, but go in with a "I'll either come out a cop or in a body bag" attitude.

 

Take my word with a grain of salt though, because some things might not be accurate. Their website is a pain in the ass to work, it's not real organised and all info is in different spots, not where it should be, all over the shop, but I feel most/all this info is on their website. 
I looked into it heaps, and realised that my psychological fear of water (nearly drowned as a child) would stop me in my tracks before even getting past the aquatic life saving certificate requirement.. Dream job hopes and dreams shattered.  :sad:

 

 


 


Yeah, citizenship takes something like five years of living there to acquire [claim you're a refugee you'll get citizenship quicker, lmao]. I feel like the FBI is more of an "invitation" to join, not a "apply here we'll take anyone" organisation. I don't know much about the US and FBI though. 

I don't find it too fascinating, Hollywood hypes the role. You're basically a glorified local detective, but at a Federal level. Exact same job and roles except higher profile cases.

Nah Application but its 15 pages long a 1 week interview and 1 year training

 

Darkmyre Fan here Bruh

 

 

 

12 minutes ago, AussieGaming said:

Yea I researched the FBI you have to have Dual Citzienship as can pick the International Branch so you can work for the FBI in like the Australian Branch etc

Nah Application but its 15 pages long a 1 week interview and 1 year training

 

I believe the only way to have dual citizenship is to be born with it (ie: born in America with Australian parents or vice versa, or one parent of each heritage, though I think they've phased that out). You can't generally apply for and have both. They do have locally engaged staff (LES) here, however they're admin/office staff. I've worked with the FBI Legal Attache in Canberra before and they're actually FBI Agents who are on deployment, much the same as the AFP have officers posted around the world. They serve more of a political/relationship/capacity building role than anything else, though they do engage with foreign agencies with some work (eg: people smuggling investigations, etc where the home country holds a stake in what's going on). You'll find that postings between developed countries (Australia, America, etc.) are far less focused on investigations and far more focused on politics. Lesser developed countries will involve more work and capacity building/supervision. 

 

I think where @PgUp was going with his comment was more of a 'you can apply, but unless you know someone, you probably won't get in'.  I would think with the sheer number of people they have though, it's probably no harder to get in than a state/territory police force; just difficult to actually break in to a decent role within the organisation. There'd be a lot of vetting as well, background checks and the likes.

 

As for the training stuff, I may have used a bad analogy.  What I meant was; you're expected to get to a point by yourself. Once you've shown you can get there (entry requirements), they will help you get to the next point (completion of training).  I believe it's competency based, like most things now. You get trained, get an assessment or scenario to show you're competent; if you aren't, your mistakes are explained to you, you're given revision time and time to prepare to have a second shot. If you're not able to demonstrate you're competent on the second shot, you fail.  I'm not sure if you then 'out' (as was portrayed on the show) or if you then have to reattend simply to recomplete the failed components or what.

 

Edited by Kyben

4 minutes ago, Kyben said:

 

I believe the only way to have dual citizenship is to be born with it (ie: born in America with Australian parents or vice versa, or one parent of each heritage, though I think they've phased that out). You can't generally apply for and have both. They do have locally engaged staff (LES) here, however they're admin/office staff. I've worked with the FBI Legal Attache in Canberra before and they're actually FBI Agents who are on deployment, much the same as the AFP have officers posted around the world. They serve more of a political/relationship/capacity building role than anything else, though they do engage with foreign agencies with some work (eg: people smuggling investigations, etc where the home country holds a stake in what's going on). You'll find that postings between developed countries (Australia, America, etc.) are far less focused on investigations and far more focused on politics. Lesser developed countries will involve more work and capacity building/supervision. 

 

I think where @PgUp was going with his comment was more of a 'you can apply, but unless you know someone, you probably won't get in'.  I would think with the sheer number of people they have though, it's probably no harder to get in than a state/territory police force; just difficult to actually break in to a decent role within the organisation. There'd be a lot of vetting as well, background checks and the likes.

 

 

Luckly my Grandpa was born in Ohio but died (WW2 as far as my Nan tells me) but yea i've always wanted to work for the US Navy, FBI, NSWPF or be a ASNSW Paramedic

 

Darkmyre Fan here Bruh

 

 

 

48 minutes ago, AussieGaming said:

Luckly my Grandpa was born in Ohio but died (WW2 as far as my Nan tells me) but yea i've always wanted to work for the US Navy, FBI, NSWPF or be a ASNSW Paramedic

Definitely worth looking in to whether you can do the dual citizen thing then. Good luck with it, super handy to have (I have dual UK citizenship - Hello Europe!... well, until all that shit went down earlier in the year... x_x)

 

On a side note, not sure if any of you follow my Youtube stuff but I got a new response video out this morning. Shameless self-plug!

 

I'm considering what I'll do next but leaning towards the stolen car/baby episode... or perhaps a fire one, depending on what sort of releases we get before I start filming again. ;)

This one will also be remade. Quite a bit of sloppy filming work and some dodgy editing as well but it's something for now!

 

 

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