y is gta 4 so hard to mod/make mods for compared to gta sa? in gta sa u can find literally anything but in gta 4 its harder or cant be made is it like a legal issue? im just tryin to understan stuff better

Edited December 28, 201114 yr by ESU_Boxer

Firstly, both are two seperate game bro...!!!

With different engines and different game codes...!!!

And GTA SA is 7yrs old so it is almost like an opensource with people trying to edit it as much as possible, but gta4 is a pretty new game so it will take some time.!!!

Also,SA has become dust collector.

But IV's almost all mods are perfectly working till date.Because its not easy for everyone to achieve the quality IV demands.

This game is designed for consoles.

Firstly, both are two seperate game bro...!!!

With different engines and different game codes...!!!

And GTA SA is 7yrs old so it is almost like an opensource with people trying to edit it as much as possible, but gta4 is a pretty new game so it will take some time.!!!

cc thx for the help i just keep wonderin cus stuff has been bounced around, hey are both rockstar tho, i understand the different codes and the old/new of the game

This game is designed for consoles.

wat do u mean it was made more for like ps3 and xboxes and stuf?

Also,SA has become dust collector.

But IV's almost all mods are perfectly working till date.Because its not easy for everyone to achieve the quality IV demands.

wat do u mean?

For mage25's comment,this game is simply not properly optimized for PCs and hence,strains the system a lot more than needed.

For my comment,SA downloads sections have EVERY type of mods-made by rookies (untested and vain),made by a-bit experienced peeps (ok mods) and made by pro modders (HQ ones).While IV demands quality and flawless work,so till date its not been easy for everyone to do that.

There are also a couple more factors as far as car mods go:

• SA can use 3ds max, which is MUCH more common than ZModeler for games (In fact, I am pretty sure that Rockstar used 3ds max for pretty much all GTA models, and just exported in a specialized format; it is incredibly common in industry).
  
• I'm pretty sure that SA models can't be locked, so you can base a mod off another mod more easily.
  

OTOH, there is no LCPDFR for SA, so there's that.

There are also a couple more factors as far as car mods go:

• SA can use 3ds max, which is MUCH more common than ZModeler for games (In fact, I am pretty sure that Rockstar used 3ds max for pretty much all GTA models, and just exported in a specialized format; it is incredibly common in industry).
  
• I'm pretty sure that SA models can't be locked, so you can base a mod off another mod more easily.
  

OTOH, there is no LCPDFR for SA, so there's that.

Actually the dff file can be locked to prevent anyone from making changes just like the wft file of GTA4 bro...!!!

And instead of LCPDFR, I suppose I saw thread containing SAPDFR for GTA SA.

Actually the dff file can be locked to prevent anyone from making changes just like the wft file of GTA4 bro...!!!

And instead of LCPDFR, I suppose I saw thread containing SAPDFR for GTA SA.

Thats right.I more often see the SAPDFR threads at GPM.

This game is designed for consoles.

So was SA, look how that modding scene turned out.

Nope IV wasn't released in the best condition, but give R* credit, they have worked on it and got it to a very good state, unlike some companies I can name that would just release one patch then a

Edited December 29, 201114 yr by celticfang

But,SA was (like all other GTAs) poorly optimized for PCs.

Source? III/VC/SA all used the same (Renderware) tech, that was pretty much a cookie cutter engine, I remember running games based on it on a pretty awful system and the Renderware games working on a PII 600 (which was for early/mid 2000s, dire to say the least)