Every time I attempt to assist someone in an issue through this site, I have a mandatory writing I put after the relevant message, This is to remind people when helping them modify contents of files, not to reupload them. This text is getting removed by moderators even though it provides necessary information too prevent users from publishing violations. I even include areas such as the EU where you may risk even more from articles such as 51 and 57. Can I have some advice what information I am allowed to place and not. This is not an aggressive complaint but I am shocked that not even valid information is considered invalid or threatening. Only one comment has been given to stop but that was a mistake by me for putting the wrong word in a sentence. For people asking why I do it it’s to prevent people reuploading stuff I give them to avoid me being blamed or just to protect the rightful author or authors. 

Honestly, all you're doing is confusing users with legal jargon that has nothing to do with what you're trying to help with. There's no need to have a disclaimer with every post. If you really want that information included, put it in your signature instead of in the post. 

Also, telling people about what sanctions may come from violating the rules borders on backseat moderation, and some of the info you're telling them is inaccurate. Leave it to the moderators to inform users of that.

19 minutes ago, Will said:

Honestly, all you're doing is confusing users with legal jargon that has nothing to do with what you're trying to help with. There's no need to have a disclaimer with every post. If you really want that information included, put it in your signature instead of in the post. 

Also, telling people about what sanctions may come from violating the rules borders on backseat moderation, and some of the info you're telling them is inaccurate. Leave it to the moderators to inform users of that.

It’s in hidden content and it’s labled as irrelevant so people don’t get confused or annoyed by its presence. It is simpally there if people do not know the rules which if they break such as me giving them modified versions of cars and the re upload them I can get in trouble. This is the same crap I’ve been dealing with only on this site, other forums actually like that and it prevents me from getting into trouble for someone else’s mis doing. Please don’t reply to stuff like that actually read my post and it says all the reason it’s good to do it including this 

Can people aswell please relisize it’s not confusing as it’s labled as irrelevant and as hidden content. This is to stop me getting into trouble for someone’s else’s wrong doing. I would give someone I’m helping a modified version of a car eg a fix and they might re upload it and I would get in trouble for giving them that in the first place. There’s is nothing in this site that states it takes responsibility for that or prevents me getting in trouble. 

16 minutes ago, RyanBleazard said:

It’s in hidden content and it’s labled as irrelevant so people don’t get confused or annoyed by its presence.

 

No, you've had it in bold which is the exact opposite.

 

16 minutes ago, RyanBleazard said:

It is simpally there if people do not know the rules which if they break such as me giving them modified versions of cars and the re upload them I can get in trouble.

 

It isn't your job to inform users of the rules. If you're worried about people sharing stuff you shouldn't be sharing in the first place, then don't share it. You're breaking the very rules you're informing them of if you're sharing anything without authorization.

 

16 minutes ago, RyanBleazard said:

This is the same crap I’ve been dealing with only on this site, other forums actually like that and it prevents me from getting into trouble for someone else’s mis doing.

 

This isn't those other forums, so that's irrelevant. See above about getting in trouble for other's misdoings.

 

16 minutes ago, RyanBleazard said:

Please don’t reply to stuff like that actually read my post and it says all the reason it’s good to do it including this 

 

Ok.

 

47 minutes ago, RyanBleazard said:

Every time I attempt to assist someone in an issue through this site, I have a mandatory writing I put after the relevant message, This is to remind people when helping them modify contents of files, not to reupload them.

 

"Mandatory" - Mandated by whom? No one here is requiring you to include that text. See above regarding sharing modified content (hint: you shouldn't be doing it in the first place.)

 

47 minutes ago, RyanBleazard said:

I even include areas such as the EU where you may risk even more from articles such as 51 and 57.

 

Article 57 is related to medications, so not sure how that's relevant. Article 51 is the "Field of application" for the "EU Charter of Fundamental Rights" so again, not sure how that relates.

 

To quote your actual disclaimer:

 

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You MUST have an approved Permit or supplement with eligible proof the Author or Secondary Assisting Manager has given you jurisdiction permission or full permission to do the contents provided in the supplement.

 

This makes almost no sense in the area of modding. All you need to say is "don't share this without permission."

 

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If ignored, This can lead to a Publishing Violation Which sanctions can be issued, or permanent account termination or temporal suspension.

 

This is backseat moderating. You have no control on what sanctions are applied and are not at all privy to the operating procedures of the LCPDFR.com staff team.

 

 

TL;DR: Stop making a big deal out of this. Just help people without trying to sound like a know-it-all lawyer while simultaneously giving completely false information.

I’m sorry but I can’t respond to that all. I can respond to some obvious things you just said though, the information is in fact valid and it’s mandortory for ME, no one else read the rest of the sentence! An approved permit means any way to have 100 percent proof so it isn’t faked easily. I understand it’s a lot for a site but like I said it’s irrelevant and it’s hidden. It’s use is so if people can look at all information required they CAN. Not to inform them for crap they don’t need. Article 51 and 57 have so many different ticket dates so they can mean different scenarios. Another thing is the ones in bold previously is by accident. Another thing is I’m just mentioning other forems to compare the enforcement they provide which every forum should have, including this one no matter what site or what for it’s needed.   

8 minutes ago, Will said:

 

No, you've had it in bold which is the exact opposite.

 

 

It isn't your job to inform users of the rules. If you're worried about people sharing stuff you shouldn't be sharing in the first place, then don't share it. You're breaking the very rules you're informing them of if you're sharing anything without authorization.

 

 

This isn't those other forums, so that's irrelevant. See above about getting in trouble for other's misdoings.

 

 

Ok.

 

 

"Mandatory" - Mandated by whom? No one here is requiring you to include that text. See above regarding sharing modified content (hint: you shouldn't be doing it in the first place.)

 

 

Article 57 is related to medications, so not sure how that's relevant. Article 51 is the "Field of application" for the "EU Charter of Fundamental Rights" so again, not sure how that relates.

 

To quote your actual disclaimer:

 

 

This makes almost no sense in the area of modding. All you need to say is "don't share this without permission."

 

 

This is backseat moderating. You have no control on what sanctions are applied and are not at all privy to the operating procedures of the LCPDFR.com staff team.

 

 

TL;DR: Stop making a big deal out of this. Just help people without trying to sound like a know-it-all lawyer, while simultaneously giving completely false information.

Also to say that i said i can hand out punishments is wrong. I never said that! Your just making false statements to prove a point that has been disproven anyways but you just don’t understand it so I have to correct you. Don’t reply to this forum if you can’t understand it! Please it would help a lot of corrections and time. 

39 minutes ago, RyanBleazard said:

This is to stop me getting into trouble for someone’s else’s wrong doing. I would give someone I’m helping a modified version of a car eg a fix and they might re upload it and I would get in trouble for giving them that in the first place. There’s is nothing in this site that states it takes responsibility for that or prevents me getting in trouble. 

 

This part was added after I responded. There's nothing to prevent you from getting in trouble from that because you shouldn't be sharing that content in the first place. Adding your little legal disclaimer does absolutely nothing for you; we won't recognize that as a defense as we are not a court of law. Sharing anything through private means is done at your own risk, and if someone shares it publicly, they would be the ones answering for it anyway. You most likely wouldn't even be involved even if you were the one who sent it to them.

 

16 minutes ago, RyanBleazard said:

I understand it’s a lot for a site but like I said it’s irrelevant and it’s hidden. It’s use is so if people can look at all information required they CAN. Not to inform them for crap they don’t need.

 

And as I said, you can put that stuff in your signature instead. It is not at all related to the post or the topic at hand. See our guidelines: 

• Only post things that contribute to the discussion at hand

16 minutes ago, RyanBleazard said:

Article 51 and 57 have so many different ticket dates so they can mean different scenarios.

 

If that's the case (which I seriously doubt), then quoting out-of-date legal information isn't really helping anyone, is it? 

 

16 minutes ago, RyanBleazard said:

Also to say that i said i can hand out punishments is wrong. I never said that! Your just making false statements to prove a point that has been disproven anyways but you just don’t understand it so I have to correct you. 

 

I never said you were able to hand out punishments, so you're the one making false statements. I said that you do not have knowledge of what punishments would be handed out, so you shouldn't be telling people their account may be terminated.

 

16 minutes ago, RyanBleazard said:

Don’t reply to this forum if you can’t understand it!

 

I'm the Community Manager, meaning I'm in charge of the staff team and moderation procedures. I'm not entirely sure who else you'd like to respond.

When you said I can put that in my signature it doesn’t matter as people can’t be reminded or even see it half of the time or care about it. When you said it’s not a court of law i never said it was and regardless I put it their that’s right it’s not defence but it does help people stop doing it to get a reminder that they can get in trouble rather than we both getting in trouble. I never shared it publicly aswell I have every right to share it individually as he or she knows the credited owner originator. And I know after I say this you will find something wrong with it, which then I can disprove which then you will disprove which then i will disprove etc.. Please understand what I’m trying to say I’m not saying a thing about law when it comes to the reason behind it but rather to remind people not to do it cos if they do we both get in trouble if the find out I shared it with them which is fine to share it but if the publish it it’s my responsibility if they publish it which is bull crap. 

Again: You wouldn't be the one getting in trouble if they released it publicly, they would. If they shouldn't be releasing it, then you probably shouldn't be sharing it. Since you want to argue this, how about I say this again. You are breaking the Community Guidelines by including irrelevant information in a support request topic. Keep all posts related to the discussion at hand or your post will be removed with warnings issued for repeated violations.

 

Either put it in your signature or not at all.

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