Policing Redefined 1.0.0.2

Mods great, very excited for its ongoing development and future releases. One unusual issue I have recently noticed, and it is possible something I did when playing with the customizable settings, and it's not a bug (that I can tell), however when I call for a firetruck, only one firefighter is in it. I swear when I first added the mod it was 4, now its one. Not sure if off hand anyone can explicitly direct me to that custom setting (I have looked through them all). But would like to have my 4 man fire crew back.

Thank you

8 hours ago, Migg said:

Hi I need some help! 

 

installed this today and obviously removed ultimate backup as well as stoptheped. 

 

I am encountering a weird issue though. When i leave UB and STP installed the game will launch but obviously there are some major issues due to both being installed.

 

When i do remove both UB and STP the game wont load at all. Gets frozen on a black screen attempting to unload LSPDFR for some reason. I already tried launching the game with no plugins loaded but once i try to go on duty I get a crash.

 

Obviously, i can give some sort of log if you want but was curious if this sounded like a similar issue to you at all?

It is possible that its caused by some incompatible plugin (plugins that depend on STP/UB). You can try launching the game with no STP/UB and with PR, but disable loading of FR on start-up. Only load FR once you are in story mode to see the error in the console. You can also join our discord and provide a .log.

8 hours ago, Migg said:

Hi I need some help! 

 

installed this today and obviously removed ultimate backup as well as stoptheped. 

 

I am encountering a weird issue though. When i leave UB and STP installed the game will launch but obviously there are some major issues due to both being installed.

 

When i do remove both UB and STP the game wont load at all. Gets frozen on a black screen attempting to unload LSPDFR for some reason. I already tried launching the game with no plugins loaded but once i try to go on duty I get a crash.

 

Obviously, i can give some sort of log if you want but was curious if this sounded like a similar issue to you at all?

Try Launch LSPDFR again. Maybe it work fine again.(Same issue, but at the second time launching LSPDFR everything works fine) 

If you have Compulite, Remove it.

2 hours ago, Chris B. said:

Mods great, very excited for its ongoing development and future releases. One unusual issue I have recently noticed, and it is possible something I did when playing with the customizable settings, and it's not a bug (that I can tell), however when I call for a firetruck, only one firefighter is in it. I swear when I first added the mod it was 4, now its one. Not sure if off hand anyone can explicitly direct me to that custom setting (I have looked through them all). But would like to have my 4 man fire crew back.

Thank you

You need to bump up the "pax" attribute of fire units in your XMLs and set the "pax_chance" attribute to "100". PR doesnt enforce it (unlike for EMS, coroner...) because some people requested to have less than four firefighters. More info on backup configs can be found here:

https://policing-redefined.netlify.app/docs/user-docs/configuration/backup

Edited October 28, 2025Oct 28 by MarcelWRLD

On 10/26/2025 at 10:46 PM, 1ADAMTWELVE said:

whenever im in pursuit and i call for backup, they spawn 100ft in front of me, facing the wrong way, and almost always causes a collision. where can i edit the spawn distance for pursuit backup as i didnt see it in the "backupsetting" xml?

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35 minutes ago, 1ADAMTWELVE said:

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Known issue

I'm getting an error and crash when going on duty.

RagePluginHook.log

I’ve noticed that backup units always drive exactly to the spot where they were called and then just stay there. This often causes them to crash into other vehicles. It would be great if their behavior could be adjusted a bit for example, stopping nearby instead of right on the marker.

13 hours ago, MarcelWRLD said:

It is possible that its caused by some incompatible plugin (plugins that depend on STP/UB). You can try launching the game with no STP/UB and with PR, but disable loading of FR on start-up. Only load FR once you are in story mode to see the error in the console. You can also join our discord and provide a .log.

I believe you're right! I didn't quite solve the problem as i did not find the cause but  I was able to get it worked by just keeping UB installed and changing the keybindings so that there is no conflict and that is working for now until i have the energy to diag further lol. The issue definitely seems to lie within some other plugin that evidently relies on UB.

Sidenote: is there a way for me to dismiss backup that has arrived on scene once they are already there? I know with UB you could look directly at them and hold U and they would leave. Trying to get all the backup units from a pursuit to leave the scene while i process it.

feature idea: knocking on car windows to get people's attention. just an animation and sound is all i need, but itd be cool if there was head tracking etc

We need the partner option

21 hours ago, Migg said:

I believe you're right! I didn't quite solve the problem as i did not find the cause but  I was able to get it worked by just keeping UB installed and changing the keybindings so that there is no conflict and that is working for now until i have the energy to diag further lol. The issue definitely seems to lie within some other plugin that evidently relies on UB.

 

Sidenote: is there a way for me to dismiss backup that has arrived on scene once they are already there? I know with UB you could look directly at them and hold U and they would leave. Trying to get all the backup units from a pursuit to leave the scene while i process it.

Yes, by default Ctrl + B brings up the manager menu

19 hours ago, Bumble Bee said:

feature idea: knocking on car windows to get people's attention. just an animation and sound is all i need, but itd be cool if there was head tracking etc

Suggestions should be posted through our discord, I can't keep track of them here.

8 minutes ago, CoolGamer82110 said:

We need the partner option

That is already a thing, Ctrl + B by default will bring up the manager menu which includes partners.

Will AI backup be improved in the next update? I noticed that on narrow or crowded streets, or when I call for panic/group backup, AI backup will ALWAYS aggressively crash into things. (Specifically a combination of: running over dead peds laying on the ground, going over the sidewalk, hitting a building, hitting other vehicles, hitting each other). 

Would it be possible to make incoming units slow down as they approach and park behind other units that came before them? Rather than all units trying to rush to the center of the scene and crashing into things.

Another thing is the pursuit backup. They always spawn directly in front of the suspect's car like a roadblock and end up being left behind because they are spawned facing the opposite direction and need to do a U-turn. 

Otherwise, everything been working flawless. 

2 hours ago, OfficerBill12 said:

Will AI backup be improved in the next update? I noticed that on narrow or crowded streets, or when I call for panic/group backup, AI backup will ALWAYS aggressively crash into things. (Specifically a combination of: running over dead peds laying on the ground, going over the sidewalk, hitting a building, hitting other vehicles, hitting each other). 

Would it be possible to make incoming units slow down as they approach and park behind other units that came before them? Rather than all units trying to rush to the center of the scene and crashing into things.

Another thing is the pursuit backup. They always spawn directly in front of the suspect's car like a roadblock and end up being left behind because they are spawned facing the opposite direction and need to do a U-turn. 

Otherwise, everything been working flawless. 

Are you using the newest version? Because the newest version has massively improved backup responses.

In general the problem are narrow streets and locations with high population: GTA driving AI can be unfortunately incredibly stupid.

Also do you use any mods that affect traffic AI?

Edited October 29, 2025Oct 29 by MarcelWRLD

11 hours ago, MarcelWRLD said:

Are you using the newest version? Because the newest version has massively improved backup responses.

 

In general the problem are narrow streets and locations with high population: GTA driving AI can be unfortunately incredibly stupid.

 

Also do you use any mods that affect traffic AI?

Yes, I'm using the latest version. For AI driving mods I have MTFO and Rich's Enhancements. Not sure if those may be the primary causes rather than PR.

21 minutes ago, OfficerBill12 said:

Yes, I'm using the latest version. For AI driving mods I have MTFO and Rich's Enhancements. Not sure if those may be the primary causes rather than PR.

You can try to temporarily disable them and check if that improved it.

How do I make the AI use EUP uniforms?

On 10/30/2025 at 6:04 AM, OfficerBill12 said:

Yes, I'm using the latest version. For AI driving mods I have MTFO and Rich's Enhancements. Not sure if those may be the primary causes rather than PR.

Is your MTFO the latest version? Same issue I had. I reverted to his earlier version and it seems to have helped with AI backup. I am still testing to make sure that was in fact the issue.

1 minute ago, DieselDude10 said:

Is your MTFO the latest version? Same issue I had. I reverted to his earlier version and it seems to have helped with AI backup. I am still testing to make sure that was in fact the issue.

Could you reply to this comment and let me know if that actually helped?

2 hours ago, MarcelWRLD said:

Could you reply to this comment and let me know if that actually helped?

I did some more gameplay and the backup responds normally (as good as AI could get) when at traffic stops. I did discover they have a tendency to drive and park sporadically if at a callout or parked on the side of road when talking to a pedestrian. Basically a traffic stop with a tagged vehicle pulled over, operates smoothly, whilst any other scenario requiring backup leads to total randomness. I removed RPE with no definitive improvement to gameplay. It was also determined either version of MTFO had the same effect on gameplay. I could always try to get some video recordings to show behavior during a traffic stop as well as on a callout, if you feel it necessary.

8 minutes ago, DieselDude10 said:

I did some more gameplay and the backup responds normally (as good as AI could get) when at traffic stops. I did discover they have a tendency to drive and park sporadically if at a callout or parked on the side of road when talking to a pedestrian. Basically a traffic stop with a tagged vehicle pulled over, operates smoothly, whilst any other scenario requiring backup leads to total randomness. I removed RPE with no definitive improvement to gameplay. It was also determined either version of MTFO had the same effect on gameplay. I could always try to get some video recordings to show behavior during a traffic stop as well as on a callout, if you feel it necessary.

On traffic stops they try to park behind you. On normal responses they will attempt to look for a position at the side of the road which may and may not always work very well. Its dependent on a bunch of factors (approach, population, location...).

But did removing/downgrading MTFO help with it generally?

43 minutes ago, MarcelWRLD said:

On traffic stops they try to park behind you. On normal responses they will attempt to look for a position at the side of the road which may and may not always work very well. Its dependent on a bunch of factors (approach, population, location...).

But did removing/downgrading MTFO help with it generally?

Makes sense. Sometimes a bit inconvenient when they park on larger 4 lane roads on the opposite side of you 😅. As for downgrading MTFO, it did not make a big difference. Traffic stop behavior was almost identical with both versions. The callout behavior also works as you explained how you intended it to. 

I did make a suggestion on this on the discord page so won't get in depth about that here. But other than that, nothing with RPE and MTFO shows signs of being incompatible with PR. I'm assuming OP was referring to backup for callouts and not so much about traffic stops.

Is there a way to cancel a callout with this like in StopThePed? Because I can't figure it out.

Hello. I posted about an LSPDFR crash using PR on your Discord server. But it wasn't you who replied to me. I just wanted to know if you agree with what I was told ? Someone who obviously enjoys giving absurd answers replied in your place. Another person closed the conversation. But I find it a shame that it wasn't you, the developer of this plugin, who closed the conversation, at least confirming what was said.