DivineHustle

I wasn't brainwashed as a child, I was taught certain morals and values that I still respect and follow to this date. I can see that you were raised to be a closed-minded, ignorant, arrogant individual. Just because I disagree with your opinion, doesn't mean that we can't have a civil discussion about modern politics. I stated several times that I support gay marriage. So I don't see why we can't have a debate.

Now you're trying to force your opinion on me, and this causes me to lose respect for people. Well to be honest, I never had any respect for you from the start, but now it's just dropped below an acceptable level. You're one of those people that try and force their opinion on others. I've been trying to be reasonable and open-minded to your opinion, but when you just shoot my opinion to the ground as you just did... Makes it exceedingly difficult for me to even take you seriously. If you actually think that I'm trolling, then you must have down syndrome or be mentally challenged, which then I would understand. But nobody I know would jump to that conclusion so quickly, especially under circumstances such as these. 15 years of imprisonment being harsh IS AN OPINION. It's NOT a fact for crying out loud. Not only have you completely misinterpreted what I've said, but you've twisted what I said to make it seem like I'm a careless, twisted person. I have no respect or sympathy for someone like that.

Well, their opinion of a debate was; "My opinion is fact, and your opinion is opinion. If you disagree with me you're dumb and ignorant". Very frustrating to debate with people like that. Anyways back onto the gay marriage homosexual thingy. To sum up everything I've said; I believe that gays should have the right to marry, but I don't think that gay marriage is right due to my religious beliefs.

At this point, I'm completely lost at what you're even trying to say. I do respect your opinion. I have nothing against you. As a matter of fact, you're one of the very few people who actually don't try to force their opinions on others. I've debated with several people on this forum who are very opinionated. They dismissed everyone's opinion, and accepted their own as fact. I have no respect for someone who does that.

I agree with all of your points. I can't stand seeing that in public. And it's not even the fact that they're gay, I just can't stand PDA. My source was Bing.

I say that homosexuality is wrong, but I don't believe that my views and opinions should be forced on the public. I'm a Christian and according to what I believe in, being gay is wrong. Don't try to convince me otherwise, I don't care what anyone says. Nobody will ever change my opinion of same-sex marriage. Call me ignorant, dumb, incompetent, stubborn, I don't care. My opinion won't change, regardless of what anyone says. So I'm making this as a general statement, please don't try to start an argument with me about whether or not gay marriage is right or wrong. It won't get anywhere. As I've already said, I'm a Christian. In our religion, God says to love all of his children (All people) and treat them the way that you would want to be treated. Like I've said, I don't agree with homosexuality, but I disagree that my opinion should be forced on society. Who am I to tell someone that they can't marry the same sex? Why is that my business? Why do I care about what you do?

Me being an African-American myself, I consider myself equal to any other ethnicity, race, nationality, whatever the hell you want to call it. Historically marriage has been a unification between a man and a woman. Now while I don't believe that being gay is right, I do agree that gays should have the right to marriage, as I've said before.

While these states made gay marriage legal, the US Supreme Court just rejected gay marriage. I don't believe that gay marriage is morally right, but I do believe that people should have the right to marry whoever they please. Why do I care that a man wants to marry another man? How does that effect my life? I could care less, just don't think that you deserve special treatment because of it. Gays march down the street for gay pride, and it's a great thing. But I'm sure if people marched for Straight pride, it would be considered discrimination.

No. What I'm saying is that the rarity of an issue, usually effects it's severity. An officer killed being classified as a serious issue is an opinion. While I believe that anyone being killed is a serious issue, there are millions of others that would disagree and say that someone being killed isn't really a big deal.

15 years of imprisonment being "harsh" is an opinion. And how often a crime happens does indicate the seriousness of it. If an officer was killed every hour in the United States, it would be a serious issue.

"What if" is why rules and laws exist. Whether or not a crime is serious is an opinion, like I've already said. Every crime can be a serious crime, so every crime should be treated like so. Now don't be misunderstood, I'm not saying that someone should be given the death penalty for shoplifting. Whether or not a crime is serious, is entirely circumstantial. Let's look at South Africa for example. There are 50 deaths a day in South Africa. A bank is robbed in South Africa once a week, and the suspect(s) actively shoot during their attempted escape. To the residents of South Africa, this is not a serious crime because it happens all the time. It's what they're used to, and their law enforcement expect it weekly. However in the United States, we very rarely see a full scale robbery. If a bank was robbed and the suspects were actively shooting in their escape, this would be a big deal to us. This would be considered a serious crime, because we aren't used to seeing it. There is no definition of a serious crime, because it's circumstantial and opinionated. If I helped prove one of your arguments, then I agree with it.

Shoplifting does have the potential to be a serious crime. It varies depending on the specific circumstances really. A serious crime is an opinion. I may think that speeding is a serious crime because the speeder could have hit and killed several people, and damaged property. But someone else could disagree, because a car can only go but so fast. Just because something is established in a system of law doesn't mean that it's fact. It just means that it's what the majority accepted as true. Assuming that someone would act in a certain way is a valid arguement. Given that they and I are under the same or very similar circumstances. It varies from person to person on what they'd do. In opposition to what you've stated before, there have been plenty of cases where people have pulled to the side of the road for a speeding ticket. Or went and shot up a school and went out with a bang, such as taking their own life along with several others.

In my opinion, any crime can be a serious crime. As Pavelow has said, if I knew that I was going to be put to death anyways, I'd try to cause as much destruction and suffering as I possibly could. It may seem selfish and cowardly, but at the end of the day, people are dead, and I'm dead as well either way. If I wasn't going to be killed, there's a greater chance that I'd surrender.

I agree with your point, but I disagree when you say that the death penalty should be a fast process. The death penalty should be a long process, because someone's life is about to be taken. Last I checked, that's kind of a big deal. The last thing that a state government needs, is to have accidentally put someone to death.

The U.S. Government is a conglomerate of incompetent fools.

I always enjoy when I'm the only person in the entire class to have actually done my homework, and everyone wants to copy me. Especially when I do my homework incorrectly and the entire class fails the assignment.

If you commit a crime so terrible that you're eligible to receive the death penalty, then I have no sympathy for you. The death penalty is not inhumane, and should remain in modern politics and law. "Can't do the time, don't do the crime".

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

Cool, looking forward to seeing something a little different.

HE GOT BANNED? LMAOOO I'M DONE. LOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Edit: Now that I've recovered from having a laugh attack, I do agree with several points made earlier. If the officer was in distress and appeared as if s'he couldn't handle the situation, then I would interfere and assist the officer. But of course, the situation is entirely circumstantial.

LMAO!!!! Made my night, thank you.

title="LCPDFR its own game?: post #3"> title=": post #3">#3 cp702 Careful the things you say, children will listen Community Team 3,782 posts LocationUTC-4 Community Moderator Posted 02 January 2014 - 11:54 PM Basically: LCPDFR isn't even CLOSE to being remotely anything that could be its own game. If we did make our own game, the result would be worse in many ways than doing a GTA IV mod. GTA provides for us a relatively stable, highly advanced engine that handles almost everything that happens ingame. LCPDFR really just is a little tweak on it to change a few behaviors here and there. When we have the suspect cuffed, RAGE actually handles the cuffing by playing the animation developed by someone at Rockstar. When you fire a gun, the gun, its model, the damage done, the health of the target, the flinching of the guy it hits, the animation if you miss - that's all Rockstar's doing. LCPDFR is really a minor thing compared with the scale of the game we piggyback on. And here's the thing - we didn't have to develop that game. By building it on GTA IV, we can gain access to a super-advanced engine with decent-quality low-resource-load content (e.g. Rockstar's car models are superior in detail per polygon to every single GTA car mod I've seen; modders are just not as good at keeping poly counts down) produced to professional standards. We gain access, in short, to tens of millions of dollars and thousands of man-hours of work. And it costs us just 20 dollars per person who wants to play LCPDFR. And the best thing is, we don't even have to pay it - you guys willingly pay the 20 dollars for IV or EFLC, and we then know that you have that incredibly advanced game we can use. Basically, LCPDFR is massively subsidized by every single person who buys GTA IV or EFLC for console, and every single person who buys it for PC and does not use LCPDFR. If we were to develop our own game, we'd lose that - you'd have to pay a ton of money for a worse experience. That's why we won't do it. I responded asking if anything would be different if they were provided the tools necessary to create an LCPDFR game, this was the response; Er, no. The only way to make a game exactly compatible with the current script is to exactly clone GTA IV. The script isn't some Platonic ideal; it's designed to work with GTA IV, and only GTA IV. And I'm not sure you know what you're talking about with "given all the resources to make a game" - again, that's both tens of millions of dollars, AND years of work by extremely talented programmers, designers, 3D modelers, artists, voice actors, producers, etc. All of them worked on it full-time, as GTA was their day job. You can't just be "given" that - a 3-person team is in no way capable of producing something like GTA IV in pretty much any length of time. It's just not possible. Furthermore, you cannot be given years of your life; if the team wished to make a game as good as GTA, it would be their primary job. A game the quality of GTA is simply not possible from the dev team. A game a quarter the quality would basically require it to be their main job, and would take years. It would then cost a lot of money, because they have to pay the bills during those years of work, and the market isn't nearly as big as for IV. And the end result would be much worse, quite likely. That's why "make it into a game" is never, ever going to happen. It's not "push a button".

The reason I ask this question, is because everyone I've asked so far said they would not interfere. Here is an example of a situation where this question would come up: http://www.spike.com/video-clips/40c3km/cops-drugged-up-pedestrian-fights-officer-part-1

Even with vanilla vehicles, there is still a large chance that you'll crash.

I agree, would be an awesome script.